In a dramatic shift, most Republicans now oppose same-sex marriage

[LittleNipper]

Why wouldn't we act "immature", as you put it, when it comes to sex? We're animals with a strong sex drive. If anything, we should have multiple partners to better our chances of survival.


Why would that be the case? As social animals, we have sex for more than just procreating. We also have sex to create mutual bonds and pleasure.


In what way? Who is defining what is or isn't mature when it comes to two (or more) consenting adults having sex?

Again, how is it backwards?

All pleasure for "modern" and advanced man should be directed to help and love our fellow man, and not engage in selfish silliness that does nothing positive to advance anyone but spread diseases and is a physiological disconnect. Where is your supposed "modern" brain ----- above your shoulders or somewhere else? Do you wish to remain an ancestral ant simply running randomly about.....

 

[LittleNipper]

Just because they can produce viable offspring doesn't mean that they're the same species. Wolves and dogs can produce viable offspring but they're not the same species. Same with lions and tigers, horses and donkeys in rare cases, and other examples. House cats and tigers can't breed with each other, yet I don't think you'll argue that they're not related.

Exactly what am I'm supposed to get out of this video? At least my two videos directly addressed your concerns about human evolution.

You should come away with the reality is that NOTHING happens without purpose nor divine knowledge. And any theory that promotes nature as the means of Creation and progression is entirely missing/excluding GOD in their data.

 

[Maccabee]

All pleasure for "modern" and advanced man should be directed to help and love our fellow man, and not engage in selfish silliness that does nothing positive to advance anyone but spread diseases and is a physiological disconnect. Where is your supposed "modern" brain ----- above your shoulders or somewhere else? Do you wish to remain an ancestral ant simply running randomly about.....

Again, how is being gay primitive? Again, is it really that hard to comprehend the notion that sex and intimacy among gay and lesbian couples can be just as, if not more beneficial and loving than straight couples? What evidence do you have that it isn't?

 

[Maccabee]

You should come away with the reality is that NOTHING happens without purpose nor divine knowledge. And any theory that promotes nature as the means of Creation and progression is entirely missing/excluding GOD in their data.

That's all fine and dandy if you actually have evidence for it. Just so you know, I used to religiously watch Kent Hovind and even used some of his talking points when I was a YEC.

 

[Phys251]

That's all fine and dandy if you actually have evidence for it. Just so you know, I used to religiously watch Kent Hovind and even used some of his talking points when I was a YEC.

I haven't heard the term YEC in a long time! Unfortunately, I know that Young Earth Creationists exist.

 

[Maccabee]

I haven't heard the term YEC in a long time! Unfortunately, I know that Young Earth Creationists exist.

Now that I'm on the other side, I've kinda been itching to discuss this, but I frequently find out that the person I'm engaging with doesn't have near the "knowledge" on the subject as I did when I was defending creation, if I do say so myself.

 

[Phys251]

Now that I'm on the other side, I've kinda been itching to discuss this, but I frequently find out that the person I'm engaging with doesn't have near the "knowledge" on the subject as I did when I was defending creation, if I do say so myself.

That's a common theme with YECs. They never think through what they're believing in. And they hold onto their beliefs despite all the evidence.

 

[Lursa]

All pleasure for "modern" and advanced man should be directed to help and love our fellow man, and not engage in selfish silliness that does nothing positive to advance anyone but spread diseases and is a physiological disconnect.

Healthy relationships that build healthy families all help society and "our fellow man." Straight and gay couples do so...and the pleasure and intimacy of sex helps make healthy, long-term relationships. What rational, real-life reason is there to object to that?

Btw, today, most diseases can be cured. In the past, not so much

 

[Lursa]

That's a common theme with YECs. They never think through what they're believing in. And they hold onto their beliefs despite all the evidence.

They're not supposed to. They're supposed to believe and obey without question.

That's why there's a big overlap with MAGA.

 

[LittleNipper]

Again, how is being gay primitive? Again, is it really that hard to comprehend the notion that sex and intimacy among gay and lesbian couples can be just as, if not more beneficial and loving than straight couples? What evidence do you have that it isn't?

How can a "gay" couple be more beneficial to society than a loving normal relationship that produces offspring? Sex isn't a lottery game where a jackpot produces a baby. I'm sorry of you are completely dissatisfied with any of answers. I guess you'll just have to be malcontent.

 

[Phys251]

How can a "gay" couple be more beneficial to society than a loving normal relationship that produces offspring? Sex isn't a lottery game where a jackpot produces a baby. I'm sorry of you are completely dissatisfied with any of answers. I guess you'll just have to be malcontent.

You didn't answer the questions. There's nothing wrong with being gay. If you don't like that, don't love another man.

 

[Lursa]

How can a "gay" couple be more beneficial to society than a loving normal relationship that produces offspring? Sex isn't a lottery game where a jackpot produces a baby. I'm sorry of you are completely dissatisfied with any of answers. I guess you'll just have to be malcontent.

How is their relationship any different than the straight couple's? Is marriage and family only about having sex? Besides, many straight couples do all the same things...so what's the difference?

Why are you so fixated on sex acts when discussing marriage, commitment, love, responsibility, raising children? Which are more important in a marriage? Which ones do you think gays dont fulfill as well as straight couples?

 

[LittleNipper]

Healthy relationships that build healthy families all help society and "our fellow man." Straight and gay couples do so...and the pleasure and intimacy of sex helps make healthy, long-term relationships. What rational, real-life reason is there to object to that?

Btw, today, most diseases can be cured. In the past, not so much

Is it okay to have sex with another individual if you may have say HIV ---- since it might be possible to control the illness with medical procedures? Is that a good reason excuse one's self of infecting others?

 

[LittleNipper]

You didn't answer the questions. There's nothing wrong with being gay. If you don't like that, don't love another man.

Men can love other men, it's just biologically impossible to beget children threw them having sex. Sex and love are not one and the same.

 

[CLAX1911]

Men can love other men, it's just biologically impossible to beget children threw them having sex.

So it's your position that gay men are trying to make you believe that humans reproduce asexually

Sex and love are not one and the same.

Most sex typically would be an expression of love.

 

[Phys251]

Men can love other men, it's just biologically impossible to beget children threw them having sex. Sex and love are not one and the same.

No shit they're not the same. Do you believe that a woman post-menopause shouldn't be having sex?

 

[LittleNipper]

No shit they're not the same. Do you believe that a woman post-menopause shouldn't be having sex?

Only if she feels uncomfortable. I believe the commandment against such was for the woman's benefit and not that of the male. Men likely could have sex anytime...

 

[Maccabee]

How can a "gay" couple be more beneficial to society than a loving normal relationship that produces offspring? Sex isn't a lottery game where a jackpot produces a baby. I'm sorry of you are completely dissatisfied with any of answers. I guess you'll just have to be malcontent.

A happy healthy gay couple is far more beneficial than a an abusive heterosexual relationship and far too often, straight couples get/stay together more or less by force. Whether it be a surprise pregnancy, arranged marriages, coercion from one of the partners, etc. Also, I'm not malcontent. I'm glad I'm gay and wouldn't change it for anything else.

 

[Maccabee]

Is it okay to have sex with another individual if you may have say HIV ---- since it might be possible to control the illness with medical procedures? Is that a good reason excuse one's self of infecting others?

Not all gay sex leads to HIV. In fact, most global HIV transmissions are through straight people. Be that as it may, we have medication that makes HIV non-transferable so you're no longer risking infecting other people.

 

[Lursa]

Is it okay to have sex with another individual if you may have say HIV ---- since it might be possible to control the illness with medical procedures? Is that a good reason excuse one's self of infecting others?

Straight couples do so responsibly, why cant gay couples? Of course, they do, right? What about other diseases? Herpes? Straight people pretty much "invented" them. And couples responsibly manage their illnesses of all kinds...dont they?

You have heard of condoms, right? Straight and gay couples know how to have responsible sex. Are you saying that gay people are more irresponsible than straight people? All the gay judges and doctors and architects and lawyers and child advocates, etc are irresponsible?

 

[LittleNipper]

Not all gay sex leads to HIV. In fact, most global HIV transmissions are through straight people. Be that as it may, we have medication that makes HIV non-transferable so you're no longer risking infecting other people.

Significant modes of transmission include injection drug use, mother-to-child transmission, and sometimes blood transfusions. And this would indeed affect straight individuals, but in the US, the most common transmission of HIV is among the homosexual population.

 

[Maccabee]

Significant modes of transmission include injection drug use, mother-to-child transmission, and sometimes blood transfusions. And this would indeed affect straight individuals, but in the US, the most common transmission of HIV is among the homosexual population.

Mainly because of the efforts of Reagan and his cohorts suppressing any information on HIV/AIDS that could've saved hundreds of thousands of lives. Not to mention the fact that when you persecute LGBT people, they can't openly seek out preventative measures without risking their livelihoods and family ties.

 

[LittleNipper]

Straight couples do so responsibly, why cant gay couples? Of course, they do, right? What about other diseases? Herpes? Straight people pretty much "invented" them. And couples responsibly manage their illnesses of all kinds...dont they?

You have heard of condoms, right? Straight and gay couples know how to have responsible sex. Are you saying that gay people are more irresponsible than straight people? All the gay judges and doctors and architects and lawyers and child advocates, etc are irresponsible?

If individuals only had sex with their spouse there would be no spread of venereal diseases. People often apply their personal values, opinions, influence to jobs they may perform (examples would include: teaches, lawyers, child advocates, judges, and even parents). This goes without saying.

 

[Maccabee]

If individuals only had sex with their spouse there would be no spread of venereal diseases. People often apply their personal values, opinions, influence to jobs they may perform (examples would include: teaches, lawyers, child advocates, judges, and even parents). This goes without saying.

And if gay and lesbian couples only have sex with their spouses, then there would also be no spread of venereal diseases.

 

[LittleNipper]

And if gay and lesbian couples only have sex with their spouses, then there would also be no spread of venereal diseases.

Diseases are spread through multiple sexual contact with multiple partners. However, some sexual activity can and does bring about damage to body parts when not used as intended and that in turn can bring about serious life threatening infection.