Impeachment Experts Say Biden Inquiry May Be Weakest in U.S. History

[Bullseye]

One thing I’ve never understood about conservatives is why they get so excited about investigations. They never deliver. Also, the results of the investigations never change your mind anyway.

Yeah, it's hard to fight the entrenched LW hordes in congress and the media.

 

[TangoNoCash]

I don’t think he’s experienced that feeling in a long, long time.

The Republicans seemed to have triggered some monkey paw style universe anomaly that gives them the inability to feel shame. It seems to be spreading.

 

[Hamish Howl]

Yeah, it's hard to fight the entrenched LW hordes in congress and the media.

wut

 

[Cardinal]

Yeah, it's hard to fight the entrenched LW hordes in congress and the media.

I’m sure that seemed coherent to you before you typed it out.

 

[Cardinal]

I have more than a couple. I celebrate the guy's entire catalog.

Then on this topic you’re probably overqualified.

 

[MamboDervish]

Impeachment Experts Say Biden Inquiry May Be Weakest in U.S. History​

How could it be otherwise? The idiot ideologues have been calling for his impeachment from before he was even inaugurated. Not likely to have a strong case against him when he hadn't even done anything yet.

 

[pocket aces]

Yeah, just keep thinking that. A few months of investigation doesn't comprise the end of the investigation. How long did Mueller flail around? Even J6 was a shit show.

They have had the laptop for five ****ing years.

 

[Bullseye]

They have had the laptop for five ****ing years.

So what?

 

[Cardinal]

So what?

So what have you learned since then? Anything at all? It’s been the same discredited Nypost article from 3 years ago on repeat. Get some new material for Christ's sake.

 

[MamboDervish]

They have had the laptop for five ****ing years.

Yeah .... they haven't loaded it with want they want yet.

It's a moving target.

 

[pocket aces]

So what have you learned since then? Anything at all? It’s been the same discredited Nypost article from 3 years ago on repeat. Get some new material for Christ's sake.

If a cop needed five years to investigate a crime with the evidence they claim they have, that cop would be fired.

 

[Bullseye]

So what have you learned since then? Anything at all? It’s been the same discredited Nypost article from 3 years ago on repeat. Get some new material for Christ's sake.

I've learned that most lefties would deny gravity if their leaders directed them to. Not me cling to old rumors, partisan hype, and Uber-partisan slogans.

 

[ataraxia]

I hope the House Rethuglicans go through with this shoddy impeachment. It will make them look like the toddlers that they are.

The Trump base likes toddlers. Trump acts like a toddler every day, and that has made him the front runner for the primaries. These congress critters would have no chance of reelection if they didn't follow suit.

 

[Frank Apisa]

1ST GLARING CLUE!!! Back-boneless McCarthy couldn't even come close to getting the house votes needed to make this bullshit worth the paper it's printed on.

Nothing but a farce to fool his rabid maga vultures and keep them from devouring him..

It must be unimaginable for McCarthy to look in a mirror each morning to shave. He IS the most spineless Speaker ever to hold that job.

Can you imagine someone like Marjorie Taylor Greene intimidating Speakers like Tip O'Neill or Sam Rayburn?

 

[Blue Dog]

Impeaching President Biden is the epitome of “owning the libs”….

 

[VySky]

Sounds about right ............


Speaker Kevin McCarthy took the rare step on Tuesday of announcing the launch of an impeachment inquiry into President Joe Biden over his son Hunter’s foreign business dealings.

The House has voted to impeach just three Presidents: Andrew Johnson, Bill Clinton, and Donald Trump, who was impeached twice. But even the launch of an impeachment inquiry against a President has only happened a handful of times. Two impeachment experts tell TIME that there is less evidence implicating Biden of wrongdoing than in any of those previous inquiries.

"This is very disturbing for people who study past impeachments, because impeachment is really a very extreme measure,” says constitutional scholar Philip Bobbitt, a professor at Columbia Law School and expert on the history of impeachment who co-authored an updated edition of Charles Black’s classic legal text, Impeachment: A Handbook, in 2018. "I honestly don't know that there is any evidence tying the president to corrupt activities when he was vice president or now."

Frank Bowman, professor emeritus at the University of Missouri school of law and author of the book High Crimes and Misdemeanors: A History of Impeachment for the Age of Trump, said that McCarthy’s decision did not appear to be based on the evidence House Republicans have gathered thus far. “Biden's Republican pursuers have got exactly zero, zip, bupkis, on any matter that might be impeachable,” says Bowman.

'Absolutely Shocking': Impeachment Experts Say Biden Inquiry May Be Weakest in U.S. History

Two impeachment experts tell TIME there is less evidence implicating Biden of wrongdoing than any previous inquiries into a president.

www.yahoo.com

More experts?

LMAO

 

[Indlib]

Yeah, just keep thinking that. A few months of investigation doesn't comprise the end of the investigation. How long did Mueller flail around? Even J6 was a shit show.

Which Democrat appointed Mueller?

 

[ClaraD]

We all knew this was going to happen, because it's all the GOP knows how to do.

So we simply retaliate. Forever.

they licked their wounds from the impeachment of Clinton for years.....they didn't learn the lessons of that trial in 1996...they lost big time and even lost some GOP representatives that changed sides....its happening again...20/20 usually is hindsight...but these folks are blind as bats both forward and backward. The GOP died when they let these idiots from MAGA take over and start speaking for the majority while they are the minority...it pushed the majority away...and now those folks have left, not ran again or retired and all that is left is people that the independents and regular folks want nothing to do with.

 

[Lord Tammerlain]

I wonder how many "experts". Time had to contact to find two that provided the correct slant.

Not many,

As it is the lamest so far

I am sure Republicans can top it however

Overall I welcome the clownshow of American Federal politics that it has become.

 

[MamboDervish]

Overall I welcome the clownshow of American Federal politics that it has become.

Because you’re not victim to it up above our northern border.

 

[The AntiDonald]

Sounds about right ............


Speaker Kevin McCarthy took the rare step on Tuesday of announcing the launch of an impeachment inquiry into President Joe Biden over his son Hunter’s foreign business dealings.

The House has voted to impeach just three Presidents: Andrew Johnson, Bill Clinton, and Donald Trump, who was impeached twice. But even the launch of an impeachment inquiry against a President has only happened a handful of times. Two impeachment experts tell TIME that there is less evidence implicating Biden of wrongdoing than in any of those previous inquiries.

"This is very disturbing for people who study past impeachments, because impeachment is really a very extreme measure,” says constitutional scholar Philip Bobbitt, a professor at Columbia Law School and expert on the history of impeachment who co-authored an updated edition of Charles Black’s classic legal text, Impeachment: A Handbook, in 2018. "I honestly don't know that there is any evidence tying the president to corrupt activities when he was vice president or now."

Frank Bowman, professor emeritus at the University of Missouri school of law and author of the book High Crimes and Misdemeanors: A History of Impeachment for the Age of Trump, said that McCarthy’s decision did not appear to be based on the evidence House Republicans have gathered thus far. “Biden's Republican pursuers have got exactly zero, zip, bupkis, on any matter that might be impeachable,” says Bowman.

'Absolutely Shocking': Impeachment Experts Say Biden Inquiry May Be Weakest in U.S. History

Two impeachment experts tell TIME there is less evidence implicating Biden of wrongdoing than any previous inquiries into a president.

www.yahoo.com

I am pretty sure we knew this when Jr. Congresswoman MTG introduced articles of impeachment the day after Biden was inaugurated. What was she planning on using for evidence? And she's done it a few more times since then.

The whole thing is political clown show. It really is a shame because the MAGAt base will believe every lie they hear.

 

[j brown's body]

Does not matter. Impeachment is a purely political process, by design. The House can impeach a president for pretty much anything, as long as they are willing to accept the consequences politically for doing so. I might(and do) think it is silly in this case, but they are allowed to do it.

It is a political process, as many elected leaders are immune from the legal process, but it should not used for political purposes.

 

[j brown's body]

I don't think the impeachment itself is the goal, so evidence really doesn't matter. The real goal for the magas is to find an excuse to keep on making public announcements suggesting that Joe B is corrupt for as long as they can. The enquiry just gives them more opportunities to carry on creating new stories and repeat misrepresenting the old ones. The last thing they will want to do is take what they have today to the public via a formal impeachment. If they do that, the public will get to see the 'evidence' challenged, and the maga spin uncovered. Two days ago, even one of the Freedom Caucus announced that the impeachment was dumb because they didn't have any evidence to base it on. Add that to McCarthy lacking the votes to launch an impeachment and it's pretty obvious that even those GOP's seeing the 'unfiltered' evidence through rational thinking eyes, don't think there is a case to be heard either.

Lies and misinformation have become the daily bread of the magas that control the GOP today. I assume that because it worked for Trump they think it will work for them as well. They may even be right in thinking that given the political state of the country right now, but damn it is ugly to think that this is where the country has got to.

Fact check: TRUE

 

[Lord Tammerlain]

Because you’re not victim to it up above our northern border.

You are exactly right

 

[Cardinal]

Does not matter. Impeachment is a purely political process, by design.

The word "political" is being used rather recklessly here. Yes, it is "political" in the sense that the act being impeached for is not obliged to follow a strictly legalistic standard in the sense that it's not tethered to existing legal code. However, based on the spirit in which it was written, "high crimes and misdemeanors" is not very vague, and it is understood from this wording that what we understand to be crimes...which actually hasn't changed since it was written...is in fact the standard.

The House can impeach a president for pretty much anything, as long as they are willing to accept the consequences politically for doing so. I might(and do) think it is silly in this case, but they are allowed to do it.

Sure, but do you think “high crimes and misdemeanors” was intended to be an umbrella term that included, say, parting one’s hair on the wrong side?