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Imagine today you got told that people in the FBI were plotting to stop Biden and or Sanders?

chuckiechan said:
Well it seems to be the intelligence community’s job to determine who is fit to run.
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Well if that's the case the FBI screwed the pooch because the current president is a malignant narcissist.
 
manofknowledge said:
There is no trial for the twelve defendants. They are not in this country. The only trial is against the company Concord Management and Consulting owned by a Russian oligarch but operating in the US. They requested a trial but have refused to turn over evidence which has stymied the trial.
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Thank you.

Locating Concord Management was much easier.

Justice Department Says Federal Judge Misinterpreted Indictment Against Russian Company

This in no way is trying the 13 defendendants I spoke of earlier but said only 12 of them.

WASHINGTON (CN) – The Justice Department stunned a federal judge in Washington on Monday by arguing she misinterpreted an indictment brought against a Russian company charged with funding a troll campaign to manipulate the American public during the 2016 presidential race.

A federal prosecutor told U.S. District Judge Dabney Friedrich that an opinion she issued last year – in which she denied a motion from Concord Management and Consulting to dismiss the case – wrongly narrowed in on a failure to report foreign payments made to influence the election.

“I’m baffled this didn’t trigger a motion from the government at the time,” Friedrich said during a status conference Monday.

Assistant U.S. Attorney Jonathan Kravis said the Justice Department also plans to argue that Concord Management, which is owned by Russian oligarch Yevgeny Prigozhin, conspired to conceal information from the U.S. government to undermine its ability to enforce campaign finance laws. Special counsel Robert Mueller delineated in his multi-volume report that the company funded the Internet Research Agency operation of online trolls that supported President Donald Trump’s election.

Defense attorney Eric Dubelier, of Reed Smith, said the allegation raised Monday is not in the indictment.

“Even 18 months in we still don’t know what we’re charged with,” Dubelier said.

Earlier in the hearing, Friedrich had said herself that the indictment was “difficult to follow.”

Dubelier informed her that Concord Management now plans to file a second motion to dismiss the charges.

The judge also rejected a request from Concord Management Monday to force the government to identify which defendants allegedly failed to register as foreign agents. She concluded that the government’s provision of a list of alleged conspirators was sufficient information for the defense.

In May, the court ordered the Justice Department to lay out the specific federal statutes the government claims the defendants conspired to undermine, including details on all funds that required disclosure to the Federal Elections Commission and how activities triggered a requirement to register as foreign agents.

Mueller’s indictments targeted 13 Russian individuals and three Russian business entities. But with no extradition treaty between the U.S. and Russia, the defendants can safely avoid standing before a U.S. judge for their role in the Kremlin-directed influence campaign.

Concord Management has chosen to fight the charges, but is unlikely to appear in court with the company’s Reed Smith legal team.

Dubelier repeatedly pleaded for more time, telling the judge that in the coming weeks he will have his first sit-down with Concord Management to go over materials in the case. The attorney was previously barred by a protective order from sharing information with the client, or company employees in Russia, as prosecutors warned it created a national security risk.

Friedrich made clear she has no intention of catering to any suggestion to slow proceedings and said it was time to move toward the proposed April 6, 2020 trial date.

“We are not going to let this case go for another year,” the judge said. “I think if I left it up to you all I would be trying this case in 2021.”
 
Citizen said:
It was told to you by right wing rags and FOX news. Shouldn’t believe that ****. Remember the FBI hurt Hillary’s election not trump’s
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Hillary hurt Hillary's chances. No one else.

Making excuses is a sure road to defeat in November.

Fun fact. Biden, like Hillary, is his own worst enemy.
 
jimbo said:
Hillary hurt Hillary's chances. No one else.

Making excuses is a sure road to defeat in November.

Fun fact. Biden, like Hillary, is his own worst enemy.
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Riiiiiigggghhhhtttt, you actually want to claim that Comey announcing Hillary might be indicted had ZERO impact before the election.

Give me a break. Are you saying you would be perfectly fine if the FBI announced days before the election that Trump was about to be indicted and say it would have ZERO impact?
 
Praxas said:
Riiiiiigggghhhhtttt, you actually want to claim that Comey announcing Hillary might be indicted had ZERO impact before the election.

Give me a break. Are you saying you would be perfectly fine if the FBI announced days before the election that Trump was about to be indicted and say it would have ZERO impact?
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There are people in jail or headed to jail for much less of a crime than what Hillary committed. Stone, Manafort for example.
 
Robertinfremont said:
There are people in jail or headed to jail for much less of a crime than what Hillary committed. Stone, Manafort for example.
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Oh spare me the rhetoric, there are people in jail or heading to jail for much less of a crime than Trump has committed with his obstruction.

Imagine a normal person telling a judge he's going to ignore a subpoena. Sit your ass back down with your ridiculous analogy.
 
jimbo said:
Hillary hurt Hillary's chances. No one else.

Making excuses is a sure road to defeat in November.

Fun fact. Biden, like Hillary, is his own worst enemy.
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I see....Hillary is responsible for her actions, but trump is not responsible for his
 
Praxas said:
Riiiiiigggghhhhtttt, you actually want to claim that Comey announcing Hillary might be indicted had ZERO impact before the election.

Give me a break. Are you saying you would be perfectly fine if the FBI announced days before the election that Trump was about to be indicted and say it would have ZERO impact?
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Hillary deleted thousands of emails that were under subpoena, claiming they were actually something about baking cookies for her daughter, or something. And yet, Comey still went out of his way to avoid prosecuting Hillary. Created a new interpretation of law that involved intent.
 
Citizen said:
I see....Hillary is responsible for her actions, but trump is not responsible for his
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Are you starting a new thread? Or did you address the wrong post?
 
Robertinfremont said:
Would you be upset? You get told in the papers that some in the FBI were plotting against your favorite Democrat. Soak that in.

It is what happened to Trump and of course it impacted on we Trump voters. We were pretty angry that the FBI senior legal people plotted to stop Trump. And they sure managed to make it ten times harder for Trump. Schiff and his gang took this up and impeached the president. Trump has this acquittal record on his presidency for life.

Democrats, what would you say and or do if it happened to you people?
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The Right Wing already tried with Clinton. It was more of a right wing witch hunt against the left than the left is about the right.
 
jimbo said:
Hillary deleted thousands of emails that were under subpoena, claiming they were actually something about baking cookies for her daughter, or something. And yet, Comey still went out of his way to avoid prosecuting Hillary. Created a new interpretation of law that involved intent.
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The Bush administration lost a million emails. Where is their prosecution? It was not pursued because political investigations are dangerous to a democracy, especially now, when the leader uses the government as his personal political machine.

Please, get a clue.
 
Robertinfremont said:
Would you be upset? You get told in the papers that some in the FBI were plotting against your favorite Democrat. Soak that in.

It is what happened to Trump and of course it impacted on we Trump voters. We were pretty angry that the FBI senior legal people plotted to stop Trump. And they sure managed to make it ten times harder for Trump. Schiff and his gang took this up and impeached the president. Trump has this acquittal record on his presidency for life.

Democrats, what would you say and or do if it happened to you people?
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It would be like if the FBI director came out days prior to an election and claimed one of the candidates was being investigated - twice.

I know exactly what you mean, friend!
 
j brown's body said:
The Bush administration lost a million emails. Where is their prosecution? It was not pursued because political investigations are dangerous to a democracy, especially now, when the leader uses the government as his personal political machine.

Please, get a clue.
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Actually Bush's mishandling was pursued and the administration was found wanting. The Clinton emails were under subpoena and deliberately deleted. But my post did not involve Bush or Trump.

The facts of my post stand.
 
lurchadams said:
It would be like if the FBI director came out days prior to an election and claimed one of the candidates was being investigated - twice.

I know exactly what you mean, friend!
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Was Comey plotting against Hillary?
 
danielpalos said:
Nobody on the left was asking for Russian help or taking the Russian's side over our own services.
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Trump did not ask for help. And so often I heard Democrats talk bad about our intelligence, suddenly they want that stopped. Trump did not believe the Russians did a thing to help Trump. So far no proof has been found that he and the Russians made a pact.
 
Robertinfremont said:
Trump did not ask for help. And so often I heard Democrats talk bad about our intelligence, suddenly they want that stopped. Trump did not believe the Russians did a thing to help Trump. So far no proof has been found that he and the Russians made a pact.
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You are welcome to your own opinion and right wing fantasy, not the facts.
 
Robertinfremont said:
Would you be upset? You get told in the papers that some in the FBI were plotting against your favorite Democrat. Soak that in.

It is what happened to Trump and of course it impacted on we Trump voters. We were pretty angry that the FBI senior legal people plotted to stop Trump. And they sure managed to make it ten times harder for Trump. Schiff and his gang took this up and impeached the president. Trump has this acquittal record on his presidency for life.

Democrats, what would you say and or do if it happened to you people?
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Waaaaaaaaaaaaa
 
lurchadams said:
Yep, trying to spin what happened. I sign you know you've been metaphorically cornered.
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I have a question for you, but it applies to any democratic party supporter.

What is with the snark all the time? Virtually 100 percent of the time, a topic reverts to being directed AT the poster rather than to the poster.

Like you see this as some kind of game. Believe me, here you do not get points for snark.
 
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