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I'm heading back to Libya

Sarcogito

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I used to be stationed in Libya. I got there prior to the Arab Spring when Wacky Gadaffy was still in power. It was considered a safe assignment back then. Diplomats were assigned there on accompanied tours. I was there with my wife and two young children. When the Revolution broke out I was responsible not only for the safety of my family, but for organizing the evacuation of all Americans in country. It was single handedly the most stressful couple weeks of my life, by orders of magnitude. Those of us in the military understand we can end up in a combat zone during our careers. It goes with the territory. But there isn't a Soldier, Marine, Sailor, or Airman who would want to bring their family along for that.

But that is what happened. One day everything was peaceful. My kids enjoyed the playgrounds available in Tripoli. For whatever reason Qadahfi liked building play grounds every couple blocks. And then the next day people were being gunned down in the streets. I will never get the image out of my head of making my family lay down in the bathtub as tracer rounds were flying over our roof and 50 Cal was being fired in front of our house. My wife trying to comfort our crying baby and my 4 year-old saying "Daddy, can I go watch the fireworks?" "STAY DOWN GOD DAMN IT!" I replied, which made him join in the crying. i couldn't take my eyes off the front door. What if they came in? I might be able to kill a couple but then what would happen to my family? Would it be better not to fight back? Probably. Surely they wouldn't hurt my wife with our kids there, right? I spent that entire night like that, with the embassy radio just telling us all to stay put until their was a respite in the fighting.

The airport was closed off. Road blocks everywhere. Every attempt to get our families out kept failing. The fear of a desperate Qadahfi deciding to take the American diplomats hostage kept growing and growing. After a week of Hell we managed to get the families and non-essential personnel onto a ferry, leaving just a handful of us essentials behind. There were only two US military personnel in the entire country. I was one of them. Nothing will describe the relief I, and others, felt once we had the families out of country. I fully expected to die. We were held up in the embassy, the local guard force had high tailed it out of there, and the fighting was getting closer all the time. We were surprised the embassy hadn't been stormed yet. And if it were stormed, fighting would have only gotten us killed quicker. Maybe 5 of us on the compound were trained in armed combat. We did not have any Marine Security Guards back then.

I won't go into details of how the last of us finally managed to sneak out. It wasn't as elaborate as Argo (though numerous scenes of that movie engender some definite flashbacks), but the whole time I was expecting Regime forces to catch us right at the last minute. I'm the guy who hastily took down the Flag from the Embassy just before making our escape. And soon after we were out of country, the embassy was indeed stormed and burned to the ground.

So when I got word that they are sending me back it engendered some powerful emotions. Obviously it is an unaccompanied post nowadays so I won't be bringing my family, not that I would even if I could. And I admit I am curious to see how things have changed since the Revolution. And I am looking forward to seeing my Libyan friends, many who took to the streets against the Regime. So my feelings are mixed. I have tried to put the memories of my family being stuck in that war zone out of my head. I am hoping the familiar sights of Tripoli don't make that any more difficult than it already is. I think knowing this time my family is safe and sound back in the States will make all the difference. I don't fear the possibility of being killed in the line of duty. I certainly don't want that, but I made my peace with that possibility back in the 90s when I first enlisted. No, it is the memories I fear.

I still have some time before reporting. I have to finish up my current assignment and then I have some refresher Arabic training to go through. I won't post here exactly when I am going. I just wanted to get some stuff off my chest. Thanks for listening to me ramble.
 
Be safe. At least you wont have to worry about the family this time. I never could mix military life and family, when I had my first kid I got out at the end of that enlistment because I worried more about my kid than I was loyal to my service, I cant imagine having them in a combat zone.
I used to be stationed in Libya. I got there prior to the Arab Spring when Wacky Gadaffy was still in power. It was considered a safe assignment back then. Diplomats were assigned there on accompanied tours. I was there with my wife and two young children. When the Revolution broke out I was responsible not only for the safety of my family, but for organizing the evacuation of all Americans in country. It was single handedly the most stressful couple weeks of my life, by orders of magnitude. Those of us in the military understand we can end up in a combat zone during our careers. It goes with the territory. But there isn't a Soldier, Marine, Sailor, or Airman who would want to bring their family along for that.

But that is what happened. One day everything was peaceful. My kids enjoyed the playgrounds available in Tripoli. For whatever reason Qadahfi liked building play grounds every couple blocks. And then the next day people were being gunned down in the streets. I will never get the image out of my head of making my family lay down in the bathtub as tracer rounds were flying over our roof and 50 Cal was being fired in front of our house. My wife trying to comfort our crying baby and my 4 year-old saying "Daddy, can I go watch the fireworks?" "STAY DOWN GOD DAMN IT!" I replied, which made him join in the crying. i couldn't take my eyes off the front door. What if they came in? I might be able to kill a couple but then what would happen to my family? Would it be better not to fight back? Probably. Surely they wouldn't hurt my wife with our kids there, right? I spent that entire night like that, with the embassy radio just telling us all to stay put until their was a respite in the fighting.

The airport was closed off. Road blocks everywhere. Every attempt to get our families out kept failing. The fear of a desperate Qadahfi deciding to take the American diplomats hostage kept growing and growing. After a week of Hell we managed to get the families and non-essential personnel onto a ferry, leaving just a handful of us essentials behind. There were only two US military personnel in the entire country. I was one of them. Nothing will describe the relief I, and others, felt once we had the families out of country. I fully expected to die. We were held up in the embassy, the local guard force had high tailed it out of there, and the fighting was getting closer all the time. We were surprised the embassy hadn't been stormed yet. And if it were stormed, fighting would have only gotten us killed quicker. Maybe 5 of us on the compound were trained in armed combat. We did not have any Marine Security Guards back then.

I won't go into details of how the last of us finally managed to sneak out. It wasn't as elaborate as Argo (though numerous scenes of that movie engender some definite flashbacks), but the whole time I was expecting Regime forces to catch us right at the last minute. I'm the guy who hastily took down the Flag from the Embassy just before making our escape. And soon after we were out of country, the embassy was indeed stormed and burned to the ground.

So when I got word that they are sending me back it engendered some powerful emotions. Obviously it is an unaccompanied post nowadays so I won't be bringing my family, not that I would even if I could. And I admit I am curious to see how things have changed since the Revolution. And I am looking forward to seeing my Libyan friends, many who took to the streets against the Regime. So my feelings are mixed. I have tried to put the memories of my family being stuck in that war zone out of my head. I am hoping the familiar sights of Tripoli don't make that any more difficult than it already is. I think knowing this time my family is safe and sound back in the States will make all the difference. I don't fear the possibility of being killed in the line of duty. I certainly don't want that, but I made my peace with that possibility back in the 90s when I first enlisted. No, it is the memories I fear.

I still have some time before reporting. I have to finish up my current assignment and then I have some refresher Arabic training to go through. I won't post here exactly when I am going. I just wanted to get some stuff off my chest. Thanks for listening to me ramble.
 
I used to be stationed in Libya. I got there prior to the Arab Spring when Wacky Gadaffy was still in power. It was considered a safe assignment back then. Diplomats were assigned there on accompanied tours. I was there with my wife and two young children. When the Revolution broke out I was responsible not only for the safety of my family, but for organizing the evacuation of all Americans in country. It was single handedly the most stressful couple weeks of my life, by orders of magnitude. Those of us in the military understand we can end up in a combat zone during our careers. It goes with the territory. But there isn't a Soldier, Marine, Sailor, or Airman who would want to bring their family along for that.

But that is what happened. One day everything was peaceful. My kids enjoyed the playgrounds available in Tripoli. For whatever reason Qadahfi liked building play grounds every couple blocks. And then the next day people were being gunned down in the streets. I will never get the image out of my head of making my family lay down in the bathtub as tracer rounds were flying over our roof and 50 Cal was being fired in front of our house. My wife trying to comfort our crying baby and my 4 year-old saying "Daddy, can I go watch the fireworks?" "STAY DOWN GOD DAMN IT!" I replied, which made him join in the crying. i couldn't take my eyes off the front door. What if they came in? I might be able to kill a couple but then what would happen to my family? Would it be better not to fight back? Probably. Surely they wouldn't hurt my wife with our kids there, right? I spent that entire night like that, with the embassy radio just telling us all to stay put until their was a respite in the fighting.

The airport was closed off. Road blocks everywhere. Every attempt to get our families out kept failing. The fear of a desperate Qadahfi deciding to take the American diplomats hostage kept growing and growing. After a week of Hell we managed to get the families and non-essential personnel onto a ferry, leaving just a handful of us essentials behind. There were only two US military personnel in the entire country. I was one of them. Nothing will describe the relief I, and others, felt once we had the families out of country. I fully expected to die. We were held up in the embassy, the local guard force had high tailed it out of there, and the fighting was getting closer all the time. We were surprised the embassy hadn't been stormed yet. And if it were stormed, fighting would have only gotten us killed quicker. Maybe 5 of us on the compound were trained in armed combat. We did not have any Marine Security Guards back then.

I won't go into details of how the last of us finally managed to sneak out. It wasn't as elaborate as Argo (though numerous scenes of that movie engender some definite flashbacks), but the whole time I was expecting Regime forces to catch us right at the last minute. I'm the guy who hastily took down the Flag from the Embassy just before making our escape. And soon after we were out of country, the embassy was indeed stormed and burned to the ground.

So when I got word that they are sending me back it engendered some powerful emotions. Obviously it is an unaccompanied post nowadays so I won't be bringing my family, not that I would even if I could. And I admit I am curious to see how things have changed since the Revolution. And I am looking forward to seeing my Libyan friends, many who took to the streets against the Regime. So my feelings are mixed. I have tried to put the memories of my family being stuck in that war zone out of my head. I am hoping the familiar sights of Tripoli don't make that any more difficult than it already is. I think knowing this time my family is safe and sound back in the States will make all the difference. I don't fear the possibility of being killed in the line of duty. I certainly don't want that, but I made my peace with that possibility back in the 90s when I first enlisted. No, it is the memories I fear.

I still have some time before reporting. I have to finish up my current assignment and then I have some refresher Arabic training to go through. I won't post here exactly when I am going. I just wanted to get some stuff off my chest. Thanks for listening to me ramble.

Good luck!

Said a prayer for you & the others in your situation.

I'm glad you wont have the family to worry about in Libya,

Hopefully you'll be able to communicate with them daily.

Again good luck & THANK YOU for your service !!
 
Wow. I cannot imagine what you and your family endured during those horrible weeks. I am so very sorry that happened to you, and deeply relieved that you and your family were able to escape safely.

I'm sorry you are being returned to that place. Even the thought of going back must be a nightmare to you. Please stay safe, keep in touch with DP if you can, and most of all, thank you for your service.
 
I used to be stationed in Libya. I got there prior to the Arab Spring when Wacky Gadaffy was still in power. It was considered a safe assignment back then. Diplomats were assigned there on accompanied tours. I was there with my wife and two young children. When the Revolution broke out I was responsible not only for the safety of my family, but for organizing the evacuation of all Americans in country. It was single handedly the most stressful couple weeks of my life, by orders of magnitude. Those of us in the military understand we can end up in a combat zone during our careers. It goes with the territory. But there isn't a Soldier, Marine, Sailor, or Airman who would want to bring their family along for that.

But that is what happened. One day everything was peaceful. My kids enjoyed the playgrounds available in Tripoli. For whatever reason Qadahfi liked building play grounds every couple blocks. And then the next day people were being gunned down in the streets. I will never get the image out of my head of making my family lay down in the bathtub as tracer rounds were flying over our roof and 50 Cal was being fired in front of our house. My wife trying to comfort our crying baby and my 4 year-old saying "Daddy, can I go watch the fireworks?" "STAY DOWN GOD DAMN IT!" I replied, which made him join in the crying. i couldn't take my eyes off the front door. What if they came in? I might be able to kill a couple but then what would happen to my family? Would it be better not to fight back? Probably. Surely they wouldn't hurt my wife with our kids there, right? I spent that entire night like that, with the embassy radio just telling us all to stay put until their was a respite in the fighting.

The airport was closed off. Road blocks everywhere. Every attempt to get our families out kept failing. The fear of a desperate Qadahfi deciding to take the American diplomats hostage kept growing and growing. After a week of Hell we managed to get the families and non-essential personnel onto a ferry, leaving just a handful of us essentials behind. There were only two US military personnel in the entire country. I was one of them. Nothing will describe the relief I, and others, felt once we had the families out of country. I fully expected to die. We were held up in the embassy, the local guard force had high tailed it out of there, and the fighting was getting closer all the time. We were surprised the embassy hadn't been stormed yet. And if it were stormed, fighting would have only gotten us killed quicker. Maybe 5 of us on the compound were trained in armed combat. We did not have any Marine Security Guards back then.

I won't go into details of how the last of us finally managed to sneak out. It wasn't as elaborate as Argo (though numerous scenes of that movie engender some definite flashbacks), but the whole time I was expecting Regime forces to catch us right at the last minute. I'm the guy who hastily took down the Flag from the Embassy just before making our escape. And soon after we were out of country, the embassy was indeed stormed and burned to the ground.

So when I got word that they are sending me back it engendered some powerful emotions. Obviously it is an unaccompanied post nowadays so I won't be bringing my family, not that I would even if I could. And I admit I am curious to see how things have changed since the Revolution. And I am looking forward to seeing my Libyan friends, many who took to the streets against the Regime. So my feelings are mixed. I have tried to put the memories of my family being stuck in that war zone out of my head. I am hoping the familiar sights of Tripoli don't make that any more difficult than it already is. I think knowing this time my family is safe and sound back in the States will make all the difference. I don't fear the possibility of being killed in the line of duty. I certainly don't want that, but I made my peace with that possibility back in the 90s when I first enlisted. No, it is the memories I fear.

I still have some time before reporting. I have to finish up my current assignment and then I have some refresher Arabic training to go through. I won't post here exactly when I am going. I just wanted to get some stuff off my chest. Thanks for listening to me ramble.

Good luck and best wishes.
 
I used to be stationed in Libya. I got there prior to the Arab Spring when Wacky Gadaffy was still in power. It was considered a safe assignment back then. Diplomats were assigned there on accompanied tours. I was there with my wife and two young children. When the Revolution broke out I was responsible not only for the safety of my family, but for organizing the evacuation of all Americans in country. It was single handedly the most stressful couple weeks of my life, by orders of magnitude. Those of us in the military understand we can end up in a combat zone during our careers. It goes with the territory. But there isn't a Soldier, Marine, Sailor, or Airman who would want to bring their family along for that.

But that is what happened. One day everything was peaceful. My kids enjoyed the playgrounds available in Tripoli. For whatever reason Qadahfi liked building play grounds every couple blocks. And then the next day people were being gunned down in the streets. I will never get the image out of my head of making my family lay down in the bathtub as tracer rounds were flying over our roof and 50 Cal was being fired in front of our house. My wife trying to comfort our crying baby and my 4 year-old saying "Daddy, can I go watch the fireworks?" "STAY DOWN GOD DAMN IT!" I replied, which made him join in the crying. i couldn't take my eyes off the front door. What if they came in? I might be able to kill a couple but then what would happen to my family? Would it be better not to fight back? Probably. Surely they wouldn't hurt my wife with our kids there, right? I spent that entire night like that, with the embassy radio just telling us all to stay put until their was a respite in the fighting.

The airport was closed off. Road blocks everywhere. Every attempt to get our families out kept failing. The fear of a desperate Qadahfi deciding to take the American diplomats hostage kept growing and growing. After a week of Hell we managed to get the families and non-essential personnel onto a ferry, leaving just a handful of us essentials behind. There were only two US military personnel in the entire country. I was one of them. Nothing will describe the relief I, and others, felt once we had the families out of country. I fully expected to die. We were held up in the embassy, the local guard force had high tailed it out of there, and the fighting was getting closer all the time. We were surprised the embassy hadn't been stormed yet. And if it were stormed, fighting would have only gotten us killed quicker. Maybe 5 of us on the compound were trained in armed combat. We did not have any Marine Security Guards back then.

I won't go into details of how the last of us finally managed to sneak out. It wasn't as elaborate as Argo (though numerous scenes of that movie engender some definite flashbacks), but the whole time I was expecting Regime forces to catch us right at the last minute. I'm the guy who hastily took down the Flag from the Embassy just before making our escape. And soon after we were out of country, the embassy was indeed stormed and burned to the ground.

So when I got word that they are sending me back it engendered some powerful emotions. Obviously it is an unaccompanied post nowadays so I won't be bringing my family, not that I would even if I could. And I admit I am curious to see how things have changed since the Revolution. And I am looking forward to seeing my Libyan friends, many who took to the streets against the Regime. So my feelings are mixed. I have tried to put the memories of my family being stuck in that war zone out of my head. I am hoping the familiar sights of Tripoli don't make that any more difficult than it already is. I think knowing this time my family is safe and sound back in the States will make all the difference. I don't fear the possibility of being killed in the line of duty. I certainly don't want that, but I made my peace with that possibility back in the 90s when I first enlisted. No, it is the memories I fear.

I still have some time before reporting. I have to finish up my current assignment and then I have some refresher Arabic training to go through. I won't post here exactly when I am going. I just wanted to get some stuff off my chest. Thanks for listening to me ramble.

God bless you, Sarcogito. Stay safe.

Your narrative is spellbinding. "Thank you for your service" hardly says anything at all. But it's all I've got. *Hugs*
 
take care sarco!
 
Thanks for Sharing that Sarcogito.....U watch your 6 when your over there, Glad you and yours had made it out safely. Sua Sponte!
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Sarcogito, I am retired Army and your words of your concern for your family resonate with me even though my family was never in such a situation. I also understand your dedication to your chosen career despite the personal danger involved. It goes with the territory.

The best I can offer you is the hope that you stay safe and that you have a fulfilling, but uneventful, tour...and the advice to keep your eyes open.

Good luck, Mate.
 
that was a compelling story
appreciate your sharing it with us
and your trepidation about another libyan assignment is more than understandable
i suspect more than a few of us have concern for your safety that we did not before reading your account
however, the reality is you appear to be the appropriate person to receive this assignment
you were able to get your personnel and your family out of harm's way
also, you have the connections. know the lay of the land. and understand the culture
hope you are able to post about your experiences once you return to that exact place which will remain unnamed
obviously, this is a trying time to be watching out for the security of our diplomatic corps in hostile environments
the best to you and yours - and thank you for your willingness to put it all on the line for our nation
please continue to ramble on whenever you have the opportunity to do so
 
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