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I'm finding out Joe Biden really is a bad choice for President.

Aunt Antifa said:
You can’t answer my question because you’d have to acknowledge Trump’s culpability. Republican defense of Trump is virtually the same regardless of issue: it’s some other president’s fault.q

Meanwhile, those were Xi’s words coming out of Trump’s mouth all last feb.
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You didn’t ask a question that hadn’t already been answered, so clearly you’re incapable of understanding rational discourse.

It’s a sign of Mad Lib desperation whenever they harp on Trump’s piddling compliment to China last February. Even Biden’s campaign, despite coasting on Covid fears, didn’t bother with that trivia. Given that Trump excoriated China for the rest of the year, a sensible person would guess that Trump was just playing the diplomatic game for a couple of weeks until it was evident that Xi wasn’t going to yield any real information. But sensibility is not a good fit for Mad Libs.
 
Ouroboros said:
You didn’t ask a question that hadn’t already been answered, so clearly you’re incapable of understanding rational discourse.

It’s a sign of Mad Lib desperation whenever they harp on Trump’s piddling compliment to China last February. Even Biden’s campaign, despite coasting on Covid fears, didn’t bother with that trivia. Given that Trump excoriated China for the rest of the year, a sensible person would guess that Trump was just playing the diplomatic game for a couple of weeks until it was evident that Xi wasn’t going to yield any real information. But sensibility is not a good fit for Mad Libs.
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He spent all of February carrying CCP talking points. And then he spent the rest of his time golfing and spreading the disease. I think Xi did yield the info Trump was looking for, he told Bob Woodward as much.

Funny, my side won the House, Senate, and WH. I don’t feel desperate when I talk about Trump’s massive failures that led to his landslide loss.
 
beancounter said:
Biden isn't ideal, but he is far far better than Trump.
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He wasn’t my first choice but so far I kinda disagree, he has been mostly ideal. I didn’t expect Joe Biden to become super progressive overnight buuuuut he’s certainly clawing his way towards it. At least I’m happy he grasps the depth of the covid pandemic and remedies needed.
 
Aunt Antifa said:
He spent all of February carrying CCP talking points. And then he spent the rest of his time golfing and spreading the disease. I think Xi did yield the info Trump was looking for, he told Bob Woodward as much.

Funny, my side won the House, Senate, and WH. I don’t feel desperate when I talk about Trump’s massive failures that led to his landslide loss.
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Delusional BS; once he garnered what intelligence he could by playing along with the criminal government of China, he not only called them out (as collaborator Biden never did), he oversaw the production of vaccines in record time. If Hilary had been Prez, she would have dithered around worrying about her image. But by all means, show your animus for Trump by refusing to take the Trump Vaccines.

You do realize that Democratic dominance in the Senate depends on a majority of two? I wonder how long that dominance will last once Biden runs the country into the ground and the Dems try to distance themselves from his idiocy.
 
Ouroboros said:
Delusional BS; once he garnered what intelligence he could by playing along with the criminal government of China, he not only called them out (as collaborator Biden never did), he oversaw the production of vaccines in record time. If Hilary had been Prez, she would have dithered around worrying about her image. But by all means, show your animus for Trump by refusing to take the Trump Vaccines.

You do realize that Democratic dominance in the Senate depends on a majority of two? I wonder how long that dominance will last once Biden runs the country into the ground and the Dems try to distance themselves from his idiocy.
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Too bad his undercover op with China led to him lying to the American people and then holding rallies in which he mocked everything from mask wearing to testing. I guess the latter stuff was more undercover operating tho.

I don’t know precisely how Hillary would have handled Covid, but I also know I don’t need to compare your made up fantasies with Trump’s real world bungling.

I do! And math is wonderful. ;)
 
Aunt Antifa said:
Too bad his undercover op with China led to him lying to the American people and then holding rallies in which he mocked everything from mask wearing to testing. I guess the latter stuff was more undercover operating tho.

I don’t know precisely how Hillary would have handled Covid, but I also know I don’t need to compare your made up fantasies with Trump’s real world bungling.

I do! And math is wonderful. ;)
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Your whole argument is based on the delusion that everyone would have fallen into line and masked up had Trump spoken some magic words known only to shifty Democrats, so you’re no judge of anyone’s else’s errors.

Since you think math is wonderful, you should enjoy subtracting yourself from the Trump Vaccines list.
 
Ouroboros said:
Your whole argument is based on the delusion that everyone would have fallen into line and masked up had Trump spoken some magic words known only to shifty Democrats, so you’re no judge of anyone’s else’s errors.

Since you think math is wonderful, you should enjoy subtracting yourself from the Trump Vaccines list.
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My argument is based solely on Trump’s real world actions. He lied about covid from day one.

I shall enjoy the vax that a competent administration is now delivering. And the best part is Joe will get *all* the credit. ;)
 
Integrityrespec said:
The more I watch the more I'm sure, Joe Biden doesn't have a clue and is willing to take bad advice from the far left.
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The more you watch Fox, obviously. You never watch anything that is not a far-right conservative lie.
 
GDViking said:
Yup. Both tbe leaders of the proud boys and tbe oath keepers have sworn under oath that they waited for word from tbe president,And then got it..
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What did they say exactly... what did they "get" from Trump? LOL
 
Aunt Antifa said:
My argument is based solely on Trump’s real world actions. He lied about covid from day one.

I shall enjoy the vax that a competent administration is now delivering. And the best part is Joe will get *all* the credit. ;)
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Nope, Rapey Joe’s Covid inadequacies are already coming to light, though his Green New Dealings will probably be his downfall.
You have no metric for measuring Trump’s real world actions because of your Trump Derangement Syndrome.
 
Ouroboros said:
Nope, Rapey Joe’s Covid inadequacies are already coming to light, though his Green New Dealings will probably be his downfall.
You have no metric for measuring Trump’s real world actions because of your Trump Derangement Syndrome.
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...other than his real world actions.
 
Aunt Antifa said:
...other than his real world actions.
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Actions that include fast tracking vaccines that would have taken Slow Joe two if not three years, because Biden has no economic sense whatever.
 
Ouroboros said:
Actions that include fast tracking vaccines that would have taken Slow Joe two if not three years, because Biden has no economic sense whatever.
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Trump treated covid like a hoax. No idea why you’re taking credit for vaccines to a disease he insisted was inflated. And as we found out, Trump had no plan to deliver those vaxxes.

Thank god he lost in a landslide.
 
Aunt Antifa said:
Trump treated covid like a hoax. No idea why you’re taking credit for vaccines to a disease he insisted was inflated. And as we found out, Trump had no plan to deliver those vaxxes.

Thank god he lost in a landslide.
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If Trump had really believed that Covid was harmless, he would not have bothered to fast track vaccine production.

Mad Libs loved to play mind readers when they fabricate evil motives for every single thing he did or said. But my skills exceed all of theirs, and I say that every time Trump downplayed the virus, he was seeking to give Americans hope in a dicey situation (hence the Woodward revelation). This was a mistake not because it directly caused people to die, as the most odious Libs are pleased to claim. It was a mistake because it allowed the scumbag Dems to paint Trump as Nero Playing His Fiddle, and that, not mistakes in policy, lost Trump the election.
 
Ouroboros said:
If Trump had really believed that Covid was harmless, he would not have bothered to fast track vaccine production.

Mad Libs loved to play mind readers when they fabricate evil motives for every single thing he did or said. But my skills exceed all of theirs, and I say that every time Trump downplayed the virus, he was seeking to give Americans hope in a dicey situation (hence the Woodward revelation). This was a mistake not because it directly caused people to die, as the most odious Libs are pleased to claim. It was a mistake because it allowed the scumbag Dems to paint Trump as Nero Playing His Fiddle, and that, not mistakes in policy, lost Trump the election.
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Lying about the virus was a mistake because every early policy response (which largely came from the states due to the vacuum of federal leadership) was explicitly intended to encourage deliberate behavior change among the public to slow the spread of the virus, not because it rightly made Trump look like an idiot for undermining the public health response. Trump’s catastrophic mishandling of the pandemic (which obviously went far beyond his failures of public leadership and communication) is one of the worst presidential failures we’ve ever witnessed.
 
Ouroboros said:
If Trump had really believed that Covid was harmless, he would not have bothered to fast track vaccine production.

Mad Libs loved to play mind readers when they fabricate evil motives for every single thing he did or said. But my skills exceed all of theirs, and I say that every time Trump downplayed the virus, he was seeking to give Americans hope in a dicey situation (hence the Woodward revelation). This was a mistake not because it directly caused people to die, as the most odious Libs are pleased to claim. It was a mistake because it allowed the scumbag Dems to paint Trump as Nero Playing His Fiddle, and that, not mistakes in policy, lost Trump the election.
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400k dead Americans within 9 months proves the Dems were right, except it was a golf club and not a fiddle Trump held while this happened.
 
Greenbeard said:
Lying about the virus was a mistake because every early policy response (which largely came from the states due to the vacuum of federal leadership) was explicitly intended to encourage deliberate behavior change among the public to slow the spread of the virus, not because it rightly made Trump look like an idiot for undermining the public health response. Trump’s catastrophic mishandling of the pandemic (which obviously went far beyond his failures of public leadership and communication) is one of the worst presidential failures we’ve ever witnessed.
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You don’t understand: lying to Americans about the deadly pandemic wasnt the problem, it was the Democrats reminding everyone that he lied that was problematic.
 
Greenbeard said:
Lying about the virus was a mistake because every early policy response (which largely came from the states due to the vacuum of federal leadership) was explicitly intended to encourage deliberate behavior change among the public to slow the spread of the virus, not because it rightly made Trump look like an idiot for undermining the public health response. Trump’s catastrophic mishandling of the pandemic (which obviously went far beyond his failures of public leadership and communication) is one of the worst presidential failures we’ve ever witnessed.
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Whatever blame might attach to Trump, the fault is quadrupled upon the shoulders of the states who refused every Presidential overture regarding federal coordination. Trump offered. They refused, choosing to play petty politics. That’s on the states, especially New York.
 
Aunt Antifa said:
400k dead Americans within 9 months proves the Dems were right, except it was a golf club and not a fiddle Trump held while this happened.
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Sure, and it was while golfing that he coordinated federal relations with countless corporations to arrange not only for vaccine facilitation but to manufacture ventilators and other medical necessities.

You TDS guys are so easy.
 
Ouroboros said:
Sure, and it was while golfing that he coordinated federal relations with countless corporations to arrange not only for vaccine facilitation but to manufacture ventilators and other medical necessities.

You TDS guys are so easy.
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TDS is for sure real. ;)
 
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