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Illinois FOID Card Unconstitutional

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The Illinois FOID card has been declared unconstitutional.
 
DebateChallenge said:
The Illinois FOID card has been declared unconstitutional.
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Don't get too excited. It's a decision by one state trial court judge from a podunk country with 14,000 people.
 
Is there a link that isn't some random schmoe on youtube?
 
Rich2018 said:
How can this possibly be viewed positively ?
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Because if it were to be applied broadly, it would mean that people can't be forced to pay a fee and get government permission to exercise a constitutional right?
 
Tlrmln said:
Because if it were to be applied broadly, it would mean that people can't be forced to pay a fee and get government permission to exercise a constitutional right?
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And at what cost ?
 
Rich2018 said:
And at what cost ?
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No cost. In fact, they'd probably save money. I doubt collecting a $10 fee from applicants actually offsets the cost to review the paperwork or produce the card.
 
Threegoofs said:
By

By... some dude on You Tube?

Sounds legit.
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There's a screenshot of the court's opinion with more than enough information visible for you to find it, if you have some reason to doubt that the information is accurate.
 
Tlrmln said:
There's a screenshot of the court's opinion with more than enough information visible for you to find it, if you have some reason to doubt that the information is accurate.
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Where? On the video?
Reminds me of this:
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Tlrmln said:
No cost. In fact, they'd probably save money. I doubt collecting a $10 fee from applicants actually offsets the cost to review the paperwork or produce the card.
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You mean no cost to you

How many more crimes, must the people of Illinois suffer because of this stupid ruling ?
 
Rich2018 said:
You mean no cost to you

How many more crimes, must the people of Illinois suffer because of this stupid ruling ?
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What makes you think they will suffer more crimes?
 
Rich2018 said:
You mean no cost to you

How many more crimes, must the people of Illinois suffer because of this stupid ruling ?
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$10.00 or $50.00 do you in all honestly think that that silly ass permisso slip is going to stop someone if they wanted to shoot the place up or rob someone at gun point?
 
Rich2018 said:
How can this possibly be viewed positively ?
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it is by those who think McDonald ought to be enforced as the law of the land.
 
Tlrmln said:
What makes you think they will suffer more crimes?
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Because it encourages more people to carry guns

In the same way that encouraging people to drive faster on highways will result in more accidents.
 
zsu2357 said:
$10.00 or $50.00 do you in all honestly think that that silly ass permisso slip is going to stop someone if they wanted to shoot the place up or rob someone at gun point?
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No, but IDT that the majority of shooters left home with the intention of shooting someone

It will mean more people HAVE a gun, and might take lethal action, when they would not do so otherwise.
 
Rich2018 said:
I do, but I think it needs amending.
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Only to clarify that the right is applicable to all citizens, and militia service-or the potential thereof, is not required to vest.

I believe that if civilian police have access to a type of firearm, all the lawful citizens, of age, in that jurisdiction should have easy access to those firearms as well
 
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