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Illegal Aliens in Deportation Hearings are allowed to Work for up to 5 Years

Via asylum?
only IF and WHEN they qualify for asylum and their case is decided. Thus we need to get the overall volume down so we can serve actual asylum seekers more quickly.
 
No, they are deported because their claim for asylum has been denied.
You know so much that isn't so

Has nothing to do with asylum
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Meaning Of Deportation​

Deportation means someone has been involuntarily removed from the United States because of a violation of immigration laws.

How Deportation Works​

The deportation process typically begins when someone is identified who is deportable. A person might be considered removable because they are in the country without valid immigration status or because they are a non-citizen in the country who has committed a serious crime.

Common Reasons for Deportation​

There are many potential reasons someone could be deported, including violations of U.S. immigration law or committing certain kinds of crimes while in the United States shortly after being admitted to the country. Here are some of the most common reasons.

Documentation Fraud​

If you forge or alter a document to enter the United States, you can be removed. Entering on a falsified passport is one example.

Overstaying Your Visa​

If you enter the United States on a valid visa, but overstay the time allowed, you can be removed for being in the country on an expired visa.

Illegal Entry​

Entering the country without a visa when one is required or crossing over the border at an unguarded crossing can result in deportation.

Lying on a Visa Application​

If you provide false information on a visa application when trying to enter the United States and this is discovered, this can be grounds for removal.

Failure to Update Address​

If you have a green card or visa, you must update USCIS of address changes within ten days. If you fail to, you can be deported.

Criminal Acts​

If you enter the United States legally but commit a crime of moral turpitude during the first five years, you are legally allowed into the country, and you can be removed. If you commit two or more crimes of moral turpitude, you can be deported at any time, regardless of how long it has been since you entered the country.
Crimes of moral turpitude include those done with evil intent or severely violating the values of the United States. Some examples can include terrorist activities; sexual assault offenses; human trafficking; crimes against children; drug smuggling; rape; and murder.
 
only IF and WHEN they qualify for asylum and their case is decided. Thus we need to get the overall volume down so we can serve actual asylum seekers more quickly.

Where do they stay while qualifying for asylum?
 
Where do they stay while qualifying for asylum?
If they are from countries that actually qualify for asylum, which we should define , if we have not already AND the can prove that, then we should sell them room and board by giving them a government work assisted job where they can be monitored until their trial.
HOWEVER< we need to staunch the majority illegal flow to justify doing that.
 
LMAO… How exactly do you implement a policy like this without the other countries agreement?
Who cares about other countries?

Trump will answer your question when he in sworn in come Jan 2025.
 
Do you believe the other countries have some say in that policy?
Do we get a say in how to police their side of the border? They let the illegals through their side of the border onto our land, and we're gonna send them back across said border. They can do the same and send them further south to the country they came from, until finally they're back to some country that wants them, or finally, to their home country. Immigration should generally be reserved for skilled workers that will benefit our economy and other classes of people whose movement serves our interests, not random people who want a handout from the welfare system here.
 
Do we get a say in how to police their side of the border? They let the illegals through their side of the border onto our land, and we're gonna send them back across said border. They can do the same and send them further south to the country they came from, until finally they're back to some country that wants them, or finally, to their home country. Immigration should generally be reserved for skilled workers that will benefit our economy and other classes of people whose movement serves our interests, not random people who want a handout from the welfare system here.


Do we allow them a say in our laws on our side of the border?
 
I came across an article this morning commenting on the employment increases Biden has been speaking on. And it appears an overwhelmingly amount of these jobs have gone to illegal aliens.

While that is not surprising there was something that did surprise me. And that is even those who are in deportation hearings are allowed to work for up to 5 years while the hearings play out.

President Biden touts how he is deporting illegals at a very high rate. A quick review of statistics show ~89% of deportation hearings result in deportation. It varies depending on the court the cases are heard.

Of course, some will say "so what"?

On the flip side we can ask how exactly does this rule benefit Americans?

It seems counter productive to rally cry around higher wages when the illegals will work for the lower wages than those who are fighting for higher wages.

Its a zero-sum game. 🤷‍♂️



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You keep citing Zero Hedge, a Bulgarian fake news site with ties to Russian intelligence. Zero Hedge's articles are almost all attributed to Tyler Durden, a fake name, a character from the movie fight club.

How can you be so gullible?
 
You know so much that isn't so

Has nothing to do with asylum
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"Deportation" can be a consequence of the denial of a person's asylum claim.

Once a person's asylum claim has been disallowed, they are then in the United States of America WITHOUT the permission of the government of the United States of America. At that point they are liab le for deportation. However, in many cases they are allowed the option of a "voluntary departure". The difference being that, if deported they are incredibly unlikely to ever be able to enter the US again under any circumstances while if they leave voluntarily they can still re-enter the US legally.

However, I do recognize your desire to invent interpretations of the laws of the United States of America which will ensure that the US is totally rid of "Those People".
 

Most who cross our southern border may not be eligible for asylum but they all know all they have to do is say they are seeking asylum.

Until more resources are allocated and the backlog cleared up; people in this country seeking asylum and waiting for a hearing which determines whether or not they are deported; can take YEARS.

It is clear that some do not understand the asylum seeker laws:

Who is an asylum seeker?​

An asylum seeker is someone who has fled their home in search of safety and protection in another country. Because they cannot obtain protection in their home country, they seek it elsewhere. Asylum seekers may be of any age, gender, socio-economic status or nationality—though the majority come from regions of the world that are suffering from conflict, disaster and weak rule of law.

“Asylee” is the term used in the U.S. for people who have been granted asylum. Under U.S. immigration law, a person granted asylum is legally allowed to remain in the country without fear of deportation. They qualify to work and travel abroad and can apply for their spouse or children under the age of 21 to join them. Asylees have the opportunity to become permanent residents, and eventually, citizens, provided that they meet all other requirements.

To be granted asylum, one must meet the definition of a refugee. However, international law recognizes that the refugee status determination process can be lengthy and complex. Therefore, asylum seekers should receive certain protections before a state has officially recognized them as refugees. Asylum seekers begin their process either at the U.S. border or within the U.S.

"A refugee is inherently a refugee even if a government hasn’t yet made that determination," says IRC senior director for asylum and legal protection Olga Byrne. "If you meet that definition and you’re fleeing danger, you should not be penalized for your manner of entry, and you should not be turned away at the border to a country where you’d face persecution."

Is seeking asylum legal?​

Yes, seeking asylum is legal. Asylum seekers must be in the U.S. or at a port of entry (an airport or an official land crossing) to request the opportunity to apply for asylum.

"There’s no way to ask for a visa or any type of authorization in advance for the purpose of seeking asylum,” says Byrne. “You just have to show up.”


Much more at link:

 
"Deportation" can be a consequence of the denial of a person's asylum claim.
It is not a 'common' reason however. I left those upthread and most deportation hearings are for violation of immigration laws.
 
It is not a 'common' reason however. I left those upthread and most deportation hearings are for violation of immigration laws.

Even so it can take YEARS to get a hearing.

You really should be complaining to Congress as they are the only ones who can allocate resources

This is just going round and round in circles; makes one dizzy
 
I came across an article this morning commenting on the employment increases Biden has been speaking on. And it appears an overwhelmingly amount of these jobs have gone to illegal aliens.

While that is not surprising there was something that did surprise me. And that is even those who are in deportation hearings are allowed to work for up to 5 years while the hearings play out.

President Biden touts how he is deporting illegals at a very high rate. A quick review of statistics show ~89% of deportation hearings result in deportation. It varies depending on the court the cases are heard.

Of course, some will say "so what"?

On the flip side we can ask how exactly does this rule benefit Americans?

It seems counter productive to rally cry around higher wages when the illegals will work for the lower wages than those who are fighting for higher wages.

Its a zero-sum game. 🤷‍♂️



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That is because Republicans have refuse to support faster adjudication that would have fixed that problem.
 
Even so it can take YEARS to get a hearing.
And that is my chief complaint starting at #1. During this time, they are allowed to work (for years) under an EAD while there is a 89% chance they will be deported at the hearing.
 
We need to go back to Trump's policy of making people stay in another country while they await an asylum ruling. That take care of the whole problem.
One would have to change the law to make that happen.
 
And that is my chief complaint starting at #1. During this time, they are allowed to work (for years) under an EAD while there is a 89% chance they will be deported at the hearing.

Would you prefer taxpayers pay for their care while they are waiting for a hearing?

See my post #165
 
Would you prefer taxpayers pay for their care while they are waiting for a hearing?

See my post #165
Asylum is a different topic

Why not just deport them until their hearings where they are more likely than not going to be deported anyway?
 
One would have to change the law to make that happen.
Wrong.

Trump didn't change the law. He issued an EO. Biden rescinded the EO. It can be re-issued at any time.
 
We need to go back to Trump's policy of making people stay in another country while they await an asylum ruling. That take care of the whole problem.
That never actually happened. Trump said it and then COVID shut down the border.
 
Asylum is a different topic

Why not just deport them until their hearings where they are more likely than not going to be deported anyway?
All illegals who cross the border attempt to claim asylum. It is NOT a different topic

It is because any hearing can take years you don't know until that hearing is held whether or not the person should be deported.

Really nothing left to say
 
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