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Yea...sort of like Alaska, Stevens and Palin huh... :spin:
With so much Chicago bashing I feel this desire to defend my city....
Then I go to do it and I got nothin'
Why would Daley threaten the Trib? They always endorse him :mrgreen:First off, threatening the Tribune I thought was Daley's job.
Tribune Co. owner Sam Zell wanted to sell the the Cubs franchise and Wrigley Field separately. More moolah that way. The Illinios Sports Authority, owner of Cellular Field where the White Sox play, considered buying Wrigley Field and leasing it back to the new Cubs team owner.Secondly, Illinois had better not ever...EVER buy the Cubs. The Tribune is bad enough, don't need to go from bad to worse. I need a rich, crazy Texan to buy the Cubs. Someone willing to splurge for a good team. I want to hear people say "I'm tired of the Cubs making the World Series, they're always there!".
I was born and raised in Niles, just a bit outside of Chicago. I love the city itself, it has some of the best things in the world. Science and nature Museum, Shedd Aquarium...one of the best aquarium's in the US. Field museum, art; in total Chicago has some of the best in the world I dare say. Chicago in and of itself is pretty awesome, except for the cabbies whom I believe are all totally insane and have no regard for driving laws.
But when it comes to the politics, it's a **** hole.
:shock:Illinois law allows Blagojevich to make an appointment while in jail.
An article in Yahoo says this:
:shock:
Impeachment hearings likely against Blagojevich - Yahoo! News
According to the Illinois constitution, a Governor can only be removed from office either by impeachment or if s/he is convicted of a felonly while in office. In either case the Lieutenant Governor would fill in until the next election.An article in Yahoo says this:
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Impeachment hearings likely against Blagojevich - Yahoo! News
How many IL governors does this put into jail? Illinois, thanks to Chicago, is probably the most corrupt body politic in the nation. No one runs corruption and underhanded dealings like Chicago, no one. Of course Obama is dirty as well, you can't come up through Chicago clean; that is the one truth of Illinois politics. You can not come up through Chicago clean.
He said Blagojevich was looking to pull $8 million in funding for a children's hospital after the hospital's chief executive officer did not give a $50,000 contribution to the governor's campaign.
it was expected that Blagojevich would soon sign into law a bill that would direct a percentage of casino revenue to the horse racing industry -- a bill supported by someone who contributed $100,000.
"To let that bill be signed, to me, would be very, very troubling," Fitzgerald said.
In a 76-page affidavit, federal authorities say wiretaps caught Blagojevich conspiring to sell or trade the vacant Senate seat in exchange for financial benefits for himself and his wife, Patti.
The governor also often weighed the option of appointing himself to the Senate seat, saying he was "stuck" at governor and might have access to more resources as a senator than as a governor, the affidavit says. A Senate seat could also help him remake his image ahead of a possible presidential run in 2016. "If ... they're not going to offer anything of any value, then I might just take it," he said in one conversation.
Blagojevich allegedly directed Harris to tell Tribune officials that state assistance would be withheld unless members of the Chicago Tribune's editorial board were fired. The Illinois governor saw them as "driving discussion of his possible impeachment," the affidavit said.
"Our recommendation is fire all those [expletive] people, get 'em the [expletive] out of there and get us some editorial support," the governor allegedly said in one phone call.
Federal authorities also allege the governor and Harris schemed with others -- including convicted real estate developer Antoin "Tony" Rezko -- to obtain financial benefit
Reading some of the crap this guy has done:
U.S. attorney: Blagojevich has taken us to 'new low' - CNN.com
I say hang the treasonous bastard!
Way to try and score political points and FAIL.
Illinois, and Chicago in general, has a systemic issue with corruption going back beyond just this governor and beyond even the past 3 years.
I'm sure Ikari, or Tucker, who both seems far more versed in this could explain it in further detail and just how far reaching it goes.
You however want to point at one person serving in the state obviously guilty of things (Stevens), and one Palin whose one main accusation is still pending and can be argued on both sides, and try to act like that somehow proves its any where near the level of Illinois politics for decades and decades.
So, are you actually asserting that based on those two examplse that Alaska has a similar systemic corruption problem that Illinois has...? Or was it just a really ****ty attempt to score political points that is laughable outside of a few typical fanboys?
Way to try and score political points and FAIL.
Illinois, and Chicago in general, has a systemic issue with corruption going back beyond just this governor and beyond even the past 3 years.
I'm sure Ikari, or Tucker, who both seems far more versed in this could explain it in further detail and just how far reaching it goes.
You however want to point at one person serving in the state obviously guilty of things (Stevens), and one Palin whose one main accusation is still pending and can be argued on both sides, and try to act like that somehow proves its any where near the level of Illinois politics for decades and decades.
So, are you actually asserting that based on those two examplse that Alaska has a similar systemic corruption problem that Illinois has...? Or was it just a really ****ty attempt to score political points that is laughable outside of a few typical fanboys?
In rsixing's defense, I don't see the use of "sort of" as equating to "a similar systemic corruption problem that Illinois has...." I really don't.
I have to assume that Blagojevich is guilty of something at this point - the FBI doesn't just go around arresting governors for nothing. Assuming so, I have to say that the arrogance that is shown by his actions leads me to believe that such scumbags think that they are beyond the law... that they can't get caught! Although Obama does not appear to be involved here, this caper does put a spotlight on the cesspool from which Obama obtained his political power!
I wonder how Patrick Fitzgerald's indictment against the governor will be received by those who thought his indictment against Scooter Libby was a joke. Will you claim that these allegations are a joke too? Or did Fitzgerald turn into a reputable US Attorney since he stopped being the special prosecutor?
I don't see this situation implicating Obama. I really don't.
Typical Chicago politics.
That's the way things get done in Chicago. Politics. Business. They have their own way of doing things.
I live an hour north of Chicago. Even here, when business matters are at hand, the term "the Chicago way" is a way of saying bribery is involved.
In rsixing's defense, I don't see the use of "sort of" as equating to "a similar systemic corruption problem that Illinois has...." I really don't.
Yea...sort of like Alaska, Stevens and Palin huh... :spin:
And this is based on...??
You'd think that the junior Senator, current President-elect would have some influence, no?
This whole thing is ridiculous, I'm glad this fool was arrested.
However, Obama has nothing to do with it. He didn't "obtain his political power" from the governor, he got it from the people of Illinois, who also have nothing to do with this.
And from what I'm reading he's not saying that the governor helped him obtain his political power, unless you think by "cesspool" he's refering to a singular person instead of the plural which the term would usually be used for.
And if it means what it seems his implication is, Illinois politics in general, then that's another story and you're simply wrong. Obama is closely tied with the Illinois political machine and got his start with the help of Chicago and Illinois political figures. Does that mean Obama had anything to do with what this governor did? Not at all. Does that mean Obama is corrupt or has some black marks on him like MUCH of the rest of the Illinois political landscape? Not necessarily. Does it make some of those that are knowledgeable about the political corruption throughout illinois, on BOTH sides, wonder about the likihood of a man coming up through Chicago and somehow not having any or the usual marks on you that people in that machine tend to get? Yes.
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