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If your vote counted?

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The old Mark Twain quote of "If your vote counted, they'd outlaw it.", well just how true do you feel that is?

I'm pretty close to saying it's 100% the case.

Right now if a person gets in office I think those in control will sway him/her in whatever direction they need to suit them, so it may just as well be the case.

Opinions?
 
My vote doesn't count because people in the media and government play with demographics to get the outcomes that they want.

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Millions of votes are directed by GOP gerrymandering.
 
Right, and I guess Ana Navarro's statement (which amounts to supporting electoral fraud), made publicly, is just democracy at its best??

While I don’t support the kind of electioneering a disaster that she’s doing there, how is that supporting electoral fraud?
 
:lamo

And, millions of votes are directed by DNC gerrymandering.

From what I recall I do not see any Dem State being taken to SCOTUS over gerrymandering.
I have seen Republican States brought to courts including SCOTUS, and not only for gerrymandering but for voter suppression.
 
The old Mark Twain quote of "If your vote counted, they'd outlaw it.", well just how true do you feel that is?

I'm pretty close to saying it's 100% the case.

Right now if a person gets in office I think those in control will sway him/her in whatever direction they need to suit them, so it may just as well be the case.

Opinions?

If you don't live in one of the swing states your vote doesn't matter, doesn't count. This is why the electoral system is flawed, every single vote in this country should matter...But it doesn't.
 
From what I recall I do not see any Dem State being taken to SCOTUS over gerrymandering.
I have seen Republican States brought to courts including SCOTUS, and not only for gerrymandering but for voter suppression.

I believe a the SCOTUS decided in December to hear a case about Maryland’s districts drawn by Democrats.
 
I believe a the SCOTUS decided in December to hear a case about Maryland’s districts drawn by Democrats.
You are correct- I never saw that article, but will take my licks for being wrong.
Thank you for bringing that to my attention.

Supreme Court agrees to hear Maryland redistricting case - Baltimore Sun
The Supreme Court said Friday that it will hear a challenge to Maryland’s congressional districts brought by seven Republican voters who say the state’s 2011 redistricting violated their First Amendment rights.

In a case that has been watched closely by state political leaders and that has already been to the Supreme Court once before, the seven voters will now have an opportunity to bring their novel argument before the justices: that the redistricting amounted to a retaliation against them because of how they voted.

The court heard a separate redistricting case in October filed by Wisconsin Democrats over that state’s legislative districts that some believed could have bearing on the Maryland litigation. Taking the second case suggests that redistricting will feature even more prominently during the court’s current term.
 
From what I recall I do not see any Dem State being taken to SCOTUS over gerrymandering.
I have seen Republican States brought to courts including SCOTUS, and not only for gerrymandering but for voter suppression.

Sorry...............but the DNC cannot play victim when it comes to this subject.
 
Right, and I guess Ana Navarro's statement (which amounts to supporting electoral fraud), made publicly, is just democracy at its best??

How is an American citizen relocating and registering to vote “electoral fraud”?
 
While I don’t support the kind of electioneering a disaster that she’s doing there, how is that supporting electoral fraud?

"Wishing for demographic gerrymandering while assuming that all Puerto Ricans will vote Democratic" then. It's still a smug and unprofessional comment.
 
And?... I don't support legal frauds or moral frauds perpetuated on the American people - from any party. It's why my little tag over there (<-----) says "Conservative" not "Republican".

You might be surprised to know that the last time I voted for a Republican for POTUS (other than Trump) was for W. in 2000.
 
Sorry...............but the DNC cannot play victim when it comes to this subject.

Never stated such.
Redistricting should be removed from the political process. Should not matter who is Governing a State in 2020.
 
Never stated such.
Redistricting should be removed from the political process. Should not matter who is Governing a State in 2020.

Talk to the liberals about that. They only give a **** about it when it works against them.

I agree with you on redistricting................shouldn't happen.
 
What a screwed up bunch this is, on page 3 and maybe got 3 real answers to the question.
 
Talk to the liberals about that. They only give a **** about it when it works against them.

I agree with you on redistricting................shouldn't happen.

Redistricting happens from what I understand every 10 years due to population movement.
It should not be run by politicians. Take the politicians out of it.
 
Right, and I guess Ana Navarro's statement (which amounts to supporting electoral fraud), made publicly, is just democracy at its best??

If people move there that doesn’t make it illegal. Nice try but take the fail train back to trumpville.
 
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