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If you wonder why Obama lies, here's the reason...[W:101]

Dovkan said:
You have this hilarious idea of "earning"
Does making billions while millions starve to death while all that person does is **** with stocks and excel spreadsheets/sits in an air conditioned business meeting? Is that earning? You have this concept of earning only in relation to money, people earn in many other ways, not just money, that's silly. Utopia? You fail to understand communism. Again, I follow the labor theory of value, you can do the rest. Really? Capitalism isn't the only system that has done this. You also ignore most of my post, great job.
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People generally earn what they are worth-the guy on a computer may be much more valuable to a company (and its employees) than the janitors.
Poverty is the default state of man, what those that earn more do make isn't diminished by there being poverty in the world-its funny the arbitrary limitations you set on those who have the nerve to earn money.
 
Dovkan said:
Slavery did not hold the south back, come on! Jesus. It was A HELL OF A A LOT MORE PROFITABLE. We now have modern day wage slavery in third world countries and in places like China. Capitalism, inherently, is an evil system.
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I see, so according to you, the capitalist North rejected slavery because they weren't interested in being 'A HELL OF A LOT MORE PROFITABLE.' Brilliant. You really ought to try reading something other than commie propaganda.
Oh, and I love how you now see 'wage slavery' in China and you blame capitalism. Chinese are communists toying with the free market. Why? Because their decades long experiment in Communism proved to be a failure. Just like it does everywhere.
 
US Conservative said:
You dont appear to appreciate why we have that capability-its because only capitalism allows people to keep what they earn, and provide incentives for more.

What marxist utopian example can you give us of people earning and keeping more?
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Exactly. Communism doesn't create surplus of anything other than misery. What commies want is to loot capitalism and seize businesses and property created by capitalists and redistribute the stolen goods. Communism is institutionalized theft. Nothing more.
 
Kobie said:
You bet your ass I am. And before you go running off to quote mine Obama or Reid or whoever to "prove" your "point," you said, "every liberal lies."
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If consider Obama and Reid as successful liberals, then wouldn't an accurate statement be that successful liberals lie?
Or perhaps in order for liberals to be successful, they lie.

Fletch said:
No, I think liberals are far, far more likely to lie. Its not even close, actually.
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Last I recall from this thread Which side lies the most? I think that's pretty much on target.

Deuce said:
It's not a piece of wisdom, it's a meaningless jab you picked up off facebook.

In reality, if you haven't figured out within a few years of getting out of school that libertarianism hilariously misunderstands the real world, then there's no helping you.
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No, not from Facebook (LOL what is it with people and social media anyway?)

Winston S. Churchill supposedly once observed that anyone who was not a liberal at 20 years of age had no heart, while anyone who was still a liberal at 40 had no head. If there’s any truth to the observation, one wonders what to make of today’s college students.
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If You Are Not a Liberal at 25, You Have No Heart. If You Are Not a Conservative at 35 You Have No Brain | Quote Investigator

Although it may not be correctly attributed to Chruchill, the saying has a long history of observation and repetition, as cited. Miss attribution or not, it does seem to have the ring of truth to it, as observed nearly ever generation.
 
pbrauer said:
I am not as gullible as you are, Jim Hoft owns the website.

Jim Hoft, Author at Progressives Today

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Grim17 said:
You are trying to discredit a video based on where it may have been posted? Pete, why don't you give some thought to why not a single person even bothered to acknowledge your loonacy. Here's a hint... Because it's loonacy.

The source of the video is the "Progressives Today" YouTube channel.
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Now that I shown you conclusive proof that the website and YouTube channel Progressives Today are owned by Jim Hoft aka The Gateway Pundit are you going to try getting some respectability back by admitting I am right?
 
Fletch said:
Obama lies for the same reason every liberal lies--the agenda is more important than the truth.
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Or, ends justify the means. Just ask Harry Reid and his lie about Romney not paying taxes. His justification? It worked. To the left, that is all that matters. Lying, cheating, stealing are all means to their greater end.
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Don't worry ... you can keep your doctor.
 
Grim17 said:
Obama lies the way he does because he learned how to do it at a young age from his childhood mentor... the self proclaimed Communist and radical militant, Frank Marshal Davis.

Observe...

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Another reason is because there are no consequences for him for doing it.

People would do a lot of things they wouldn't normally do if the consequences were removed.
 
Deuce said:
One of my high school teachers ended up molesting several girls, getting fired, and going to jail.

So I'm clearly a sex offender.
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Why would you admit that on a public board?
 
"If you wonder why Obama lies, here's the reason..."

He became a politician.
 
pbrauer said:
Now that I shown you conclusive proof that the website and YouTube channel Progressives Today are owned by Jim Hoft aka The Gateway Pundit are you going to try getting some respectability back by admitting I am right?
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It's irrelevant Pete... You are trying to discredit a video based on where it's posted.
 
Grim17 said:
You are trying to discredit a video based on where it may have been posted? Pete, why don't you give some thought to why not a single person even bothered to acknowledge your loonacy. Here's a hint... Because it's loonacy.


The source of the video is the "Progressives Today" YouTube channel.
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Grim17 said:
It's irrelevant Pete... You are trying to discredit a video based on where it's posted.
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You are going around in circles, if its irrelivant why in hell did you mention it in the first place?
Ans where did you get the idea Frank Marshall Davis was Obama mentor?
 
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Fletch said:
I think every day liberals can tell the truth. My point was that honesty isn't a virtue if it gets in the way of the liberal agenda. Lying, as I said, is a means justified by the ends.
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Do you think it's not for conservatives and/or Republicans?
 
Unitedwestand13 said:
I voted for Obama in 2012, and if I had been able to vote in 2008 I would have voted for him as well.

I regret nothing.
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Your vote is your business, but what is it that you admire about him? Just curious.
 
Blemonds said:
It's worse than that. His supporters try to make his lies appear to be the truth
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And you can count the Biased Main Stream Media among his supporters, which is even worse.
 
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