If you think removing Trump will solve everything, you're not comprehending the broader picture. (2 Viewers)

Many posts in DP lament the current state of affairs: Trump’s destructive actions, the breakdown of politics, the seemingly endless corruption. And yes, all of that is true. However, I get the feeling many people cling to the notion that we can "fix" things and defeat the "bad guys" if Trump were to somehow magically disappear.

The fact is, even if Trump were to magically disappear tomorrow, it would do nothing to address fundamental systemic problems! When a society lacks the necessary skills, knowledge, integrity, and vision, its collective poor decisions and actions can and will erode its foundations, leading to instability, decline, and ultimately, collapse.

It's tough when we need to discuss something uncomfortable like the potential collapse of human civilization, but avoiding such discussions won't magically make the problem go away.

So, I figured it would be worthwhile to create a doodly video about a preventable harm (from a Fermi paradox perspective), hoping to start a wide discussion about where humanity is heading.



FWIW, although the Fermi paradox originates from a scientific observation and question, the paradox boils down to a fundamental philosophical question about humanity's ultimate fate in the universe.

 

[Dans La Lune]

Well, you're correct. A healthy society doesn't produce a President Trump. You can amputate the limb but if you don't get the root cause, you're still going to be in trouble. FDR saved capitalism from itself for several decades after it had largely collapsed in the 1920s. It looks like we need a similar solution or perhaps to go much further to adequately address long-term issues regarding the state of humanity. Every functioning nation that has been touched by Neoliberalism has been decimated or has been pushing back against fascist political elements. Getting rid of Trump and going back to the status quo seems like putting a band-aid on a wound afflicted by a flesh-eating virus.

 

[Mr Person]

@Germinator, that's true.

But ask yourself... you're in the age of sailing ships and cannons. Your ship quickly dispenses with the enemy ship. But, one of those loads they shot at you wasn't a discrete cannon ball but a bunch of shrapnel, and now you've got a bunch of smaller holes lining your ship at the water line. Water is getting in. The holes must be plugged. But they also managed to set fire to the fore and it is spreading.

You think the fire will end up killing everyone before the holes do. What is your primary focus?

 

[Germinator]

@Germinator, that's true.

But ask yourself... you're in the age of sailing ships and cannons. Your ship quickly dispenses with the enemy ship. But, one of those loads they shot at you wasn't a discrete cannon ball but a bunch of shrapnel, and now you've got a bunch of smaller holes lining your ship at the water line. Water is getting in. The holes must be plugged. But they also managed to set fire to the fore and it is spreading.

You think the fire will end up killing everyone before the holes do. What is your primary focus?

While I cannot predict future outcomes,,... I do know that Trump's past business ventures, including bankrupt casinos, airlines, and a university, reveal a pattern of financial failure. While past performance is not a guarantee of future outcomes, it raises significant concerns about the potential consequences of his unpredictable decisions.

Ultimately, the question is: did the businesses Trump managed succeed or fail? A straightforward financial assessment shows the guy has a consistent tendency lose investors money (and stiffs subcontractors).

https://www.wsj.com/articles/donald-trumps-business-plan-left-a-trail-of-unpaid-bills-1465504454

Now that Trump is back in office, he is using the same play book that left a trail of destruction in his private business ventures AND applying it to government institutions (the end result being the advantage in science by the USA is being blinded/gutted and other countries like China will benefit)

https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/5250224-trump-attacks-american-science/

Proposed Trump Cuts to NOAA Threaten Hurricane Hunters and Toxic Algal Bloom Monitoring

The Trump administration has proposed gutting NOAA’s cooperative institutes, which study everything from improving lifesaving weather forecasts to monitoring fish stocks

www.scientificamerican.com

Regarding my focus in this discussion, the intention was to highlight long-term trends,... suggesting a potentially unfavorable future for humanity.

If people want to avoid a potentially unfavorable future, they are going to have to start thinking (and acting) on ways to counter long term threats.

 

[Germinator]

You can amputate the limb but if you don't get the root cause, you're still going to be in trouble. FDR saved capitalism from itself for several decades after it had largely collapsed in the 1920s. It looks like we need a similar solution or perhaps to go much further to adequately address long-term issues regarding the state of humanity. Every functioning nation that has been touched by Neoliberalism has been decimated or has been pushing back against fascist political elements. Getting rid of Trump and going back to the status quo seems like putting a band-aid on a wound afflicted by a flesh-eating virus.

As odd as this might sound, (and reminded by watching news segments paying tribute to Pope Francis) I think the only solution to improve the state of humanity (long-term), is to teach people about evils (of money) from a religious perspective.

Fact is, Trump has an all too common belief system,...

5 Books You Should Read on the Prosperity Gospel

God used these books to unravel and realign my beliefs about the prosperity gospel.

www.thegospelcoalition.org

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2024/12/24/trump-latino-voters-prosperity-gospel-pennsylvania/

TL;DR



which has been looked into by scholars,...



and comedians



bottom line, perhaps there should be a bill in congress (as well as all state legislatures) that mandates teaching all public and private school students in the USA that,... "love of money is akin to a cancer that eats a person's soul"

1 Timothy 6:10 - Contentment in Godliness

For the love of money is the root of all kinds of evil. By craving it, some have wandered away from the faith and pierced themselves with many sorrows.

biblehub.com

 

[Dans La Lune]

@Germinator, that's true.

But ask yourself... you're in the age of sailing ships and cannons. Your ship quickly dispenses with the enemy ship. But, one of those loads they shot at you wasn't a discrete cannon ball but a bunch of shrapnel, and now you've got a bunch of smaller holes lining your ship at the water line. Water is getting in. The holes must be plugged. But they also managed to set fire to the fore and it is spreading.

You think the fire will end up killing everyone before the holes do. What is your primary focus?

I think the real question is if you somehow manage to get to safety, do you set sail in the same ship full of holes? What's the plan?

 

[trumptman]

Many posts in DP lament the current state of affairs: Trump’s destructive actions, the breakdown of politics, the seemingly endless corruption. And yes, all of that is true. However, I get the feeling many people cling to the notion that we can "fix" things and defeat the "bad guys" if Trump were to somehow magically disappear.

The fact is, even if Trump were to magically disappear tomorrow, it would do nothing to address fundamental systemic problems! When a society lacks the necessary skills, knowledge, integrity, and vision, its collective poor decisions and actions can and will erode its foundations, leading to instability, decline, and ultimately, collapse.

It's tough when we need to discuss something uncomfortable like the potential collapse of human civilization, but avoiding such discussions won't magically make the problem go away.

So, I figured it would be worthwhile to create a doodly video about a preventable harm (from a Fermi paradox perspective), hoping to start a wide discussion about where humanity is heading.



FWIW, although the Fermi paradox originates from a scientific observation and question, the paradox boils down to a fundamental philosophical question about humanity's ultimate fate in the universe.

That video looks like it is basically three-quarters stolen which would track for a pretend academic trying to make a point.

So in the Fermi Paradox is that mathematically we should have been visited or at least had some sort of clear evidence of alien life yet we haven't had that occur yet.

We could say the same about leftist ideas. We've seen them applied over and over and the concept of utopia on Earth has also been a vast and important idea that has failed to materialize even one time.

However at this stage we are at a far lower bar and are grappling with a far more basic problem akin to a religious cult or addiction.

Imagine being so convinced that aliens exist that even in the absence of proof you persist the point of mental and physical harm. You can't plant crops. You can't eat. You don't go to work because you are certain they will be here today. You ignore all the little intricacies of daily existence fixated on the grand idea that aliens exist, they will arrive and they will fix all the problems.

If you could ponder that, then you'd have a good start on the problems with the modern left.

They know we will arrive at utopia soon and they can't explain or accomplish anything to make it happen but they can ignore everything and everyone on a day to day level since they know it will arrive soon.

 

[aociswundumho]

So I took one for the team and watched the video. He basically wants to give politicians unlimited power to "fix" the climate and "manage" the economy. Sounds to me like it was written by AI.

As odd as this might sound, (and reminded by watching news segments paying tribute to Pope Francis) I think the only solution to improve the state of humanity (long-term), is to teach people about evils (of money) from a religious perspective.

Money is just a medium of exchange, and calling it "evil" is absurd and dumb. Money facilitates trade and is an enormous benefit to humanity.

bottom line, perhaps there should be a bill in congress (as well as all state legislatures) that mandates teaching all public and private school students in the USA that,... "love of money is akin to a cancer that eats a person's soul"

You're probably rich too.

 

[MamboDervish]

If you think removing Trump will solve everything, you're not comprehending the broader picture.​

I think removing Trump will solve everything caused by Trump, and the concomitant problems caused by acquiescing to his cult of personality. Once that is finally put to rest, the balance of our problems can be addressed as they always had been before. Bipartisan cooperation, hopefully augmented by removing the grotesquely disproportionate influence of money on our political system. Being a democratic constitutional Republic is slow, dirty, inefficient, and often painful. The only thing worse is every other system of government.

 

[Slartibartfast]

We are potentially on the cusp of a new dark age.