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If you find gay/trans perverted, why?

Desert Storm said:
Of course I do. Blacks and Jews had to use separate water fountains at one point in history.
Nowhere have I suggested that transgenders also have to use separate water fountains.

This is just another one of your dumb counter-arguments
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Remember the bathroom issue is fabricated. I remember hearing about transsexuals 30 years ago. I didn't start hearing about the bathroom debate until about 2012 or so. It was astroturfed.
 
Fearandloathing said:
Yesterday a friend and I, a transsexual, attended the annual Gay Pride parade in Vancouver.

What a difference from the 80's when it first started as a 'fringe' event. There were over 400,000 people lining the streets,with every brand of person including men kissing, women nearly naked; I 'signed' a woman's breasts with a magic marker along with a few other "volunteers", and we feasted on snacks from vendors along the route.

Anti Trump slogans signs and masks were everywhere.

What was disappointing was the fact it was totally commercialized. The Toronto Dominion Bank, Safeway, Hydro BC and a host of other corporations were the main 'floats'.


What strikes me only now, reading this thread, is that that could ONLY ever happen in Canada anymore. The idiot-in-chief has changed all that.
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Why would trumpers be in Vancouver?
 
dairyair said:
Yes, being biologically female and all.
Now you see, the box is not so neat for all to fit. Maybe you don't, but you're losing your binary position.

I'd like to think you're seeing the light. But me thinks, you are giving up
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LOL...how exactly am I giving up. I have responded to everyone's post so far.

And I never said "the box is so neat for all to fit"
 
Desert Storm said:
Thats just his dumb opinion
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It's dishonesty. Nobody's trying to restrict the rights of transgender people. Nobody's saying they can't ride the bus or they can't get a I hope mine or that they have to eat in a different part of the restaurant that's not happening.

What they are really doing when they say this kind of crap it's trivializing what led up to the civil Rights movement.
 
justoneman said:
So the person who sees the two men kissing as being abnormal and this is a member of a cult and needs treatment for a mental problem and the two men kissing are normal and everything is fine with them? Is that how you see it?
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Being gay is very normal for 5% of the population, but being a homophobe is not normal.
 
Desert Storm said:
LOL...how exactly am I giving up. I have responded to everyone's post so far.

And I never said "the box is so neat for all to fit"
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You have, and you admitted a born biological woman should not have competed in women's sports.
Blowing your little binary box rule out of the water.

we all read it.

You don't have to say box, but it is you labeling the binary options. And then were glad that a biological woman was told she couldn't compete any more.
When you label things and want things to fit, that is the analogy of putting something in a box. Surprised you've never heard that expression.
 
justoneman said:
So the person who sees the two men kissing as being abnormal and this is a member of a cult and needs treatment for a mental problem and the two men kissing are normal and everything is fine with them? Is that how you see it?
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I wouldn't say someone who sees it as abnormal is in a cult or in need of mental help. But two men kissing is fine and there's nothing wrong with it.
 
dairyair said:
You have, and you admitted a born biological woman should not have competed in women's sports.
Blowing your little binary box rule out of the water.

we all read it.

You don't have to say box, but it is you labeling the binary options. And then were glad that a biological woman was told she couldn't compete any more.
When you label things and want things to fit, that is the analogy of putting something in a box. Surprised you've never heard that expression.
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No, I said a biological born MAN should not be able to compete in women's sports.

Caster Semenya was (rightfully) banned because her testosterone levels were too high for a woman
 
dairyair said:
You have, and you admitted a born biological woman should not have competed in women's sports.
Blowing your little binary box rule out of the water.

we all read it.

You don't have to say box, but it is you labeling the binary options. And then were glad that a biological woman was told she couldn't compete any more.
When you label things and want things to fit, that is the analogy of putting something in a box. Surprised you've never heard that expression.
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Absolute bad faith on your part
 
Desert Storm said:
No, I said a biological born MAN should not be able to compete in women's sports.Y

Caster Semenya was (rightfully) banned because her testosterone levels were too high for a woman
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And that is the case. Biological males are not competing.
You still haven't defined biological man. Without that definition, your opinion is meaningless.

Caster was born and remains to this day, a biological female. If that term exists. It's you using the term but you are not able to define what that means.

So, you are showing your box can't be binary. Even though you can't admit it. Your responses show it.
 
justoneman said:
I did not say usual. I asked is it abnormal?
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I can only go by the common definition and I looked up the word abnormal and it's meaning is essentially unusual so if you don't have to tell me what you're mean if you mean something other than the common definition.
 
dairyair said:
Biological males are not competing.
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Biological males are very much still competing in some sports.
The NCAA has adopted a sport-by-sport approach, allowing each sport's national governing body to set its own eligibility criteria.

So you dont even know what you're talking about
 
dairyair said:
And that is the case. Biological males are not competing.
You still haven't defined biological man. Without that definition, your opinion is meaningless.
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Desert Storm said:
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How about this for a definition.

An adult human being the sex that typically has the capacity to produce relatively small, usually motile gametes which fertilize the eggs of a female
 
CLAX1911 said:
It's okay I didn't expect you to take constructive criticism.
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Your failed and worthless opinion isn't criticism.
You didn't criticize anyway. You preferred the personal attack option.
 
Desert Storm said:
Biological males are very much still competing in some sports.
The NCAA has adopted a sport-by-sport approach, allowing each sport's national governing body to set its own eligibility criteria.

So you dont even know what you're talking about
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Yes, in male sports. Are you against that also?
Like you're against a biological female that competed in women's sports and then was declared ineligible decades later.

I don't know what I'm talking about? You just repeated what I've been telling you all day. Bolded above for your pleasure. Each sport org has adopted their own approach. As it should be.
See, you are coming around.
Now just get rid of binary boxes. Or you don't know what you're talking about.
 
justoneman said:
I did not say usual. I asked is it abnormal?
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I am not a fan of overwrought public displays of affection in general but I certainly have more of a dislike of two men kissing in public. Am I very concerned about it? No.
 
CLAX1911 said:
How about this for a definition.

An adult human being the sex that typically has the capacity to produce relatively small, usually motile gametes which fertilize the eggs of a female
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So those that don't produce motile gametes that would not fertilize an egg of the female, would then not be a biological male?

So, a male with a vasectomy is no longer a biological male?
What if the male never uses that gamete to fertilize a female egg, but puts it into another males orifice? Biological male?
 
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