If you find gay/trans perverted, why?

[Phys251]

Its not a matter of predatory behaviour, its a matter of many women not being comfortable sharing a changing room with a biological male

You don't mind problems that are of a massively greater magnitude than a tiny handful of trans athletes. Noted.

 

[Desert Storm]

You don't mind problems that are of a massively greater magnitude than a tiny handful of trans athletes. Noted.

For the women who felt the need to undress in a janitor’s closet to avoid Thomas, its a big problem

 

[Phys251]

For the women who felt the need to undress in a janitor’s closet to avoid Thomas, its a big problem

You really are desperate to bring up this transphobic talking point, aren't you?

 

[Desert Storm]

You really are desperate to bring up this transphobic talking point, aren't you?

Resorting to name-calling doesnt help your argument

 

[Phys251]

Resorting to name-calling doesnt help your argument

I said transphobic talking point. Work on your reading comprehension, and address the question.

 

[Desert Storm]

I said transphobic talking point. Work on your reading comprehension, and address the question

Its not a matter of transphobia, its more a matter of women's rights, and the fact that they shouldn't have to share a changing room with a biological male, or compete in sports with a biological male

 

[Phys251]

Its not a matter of transphobia, its more a matter of women's rights, and the fact that they shouldn't have to share a changing room with a biological male, or compete in sports with a biological male

Women's rights? Forgive me if I fail to mistake you for having feminist views.

 

[Desert Storm]

Women's rights? Forgive me if I fail to mistake you for having feminist views.

Even Caitlyn Jenner is against biological males competing with women.

Caitlyn Jenner backs N.Y. county's ban on trans women competing on women's sports teams

Jenner, who came out as transgender in 2015, alleged that trans women are “taking valuable opportunities” from cisgender women and “causing physical harm.”

www.nbcnews.com

 

[Desert Storm]

Women's rights? Forgive me if I fail to mistake you for having feminist views.

I do not have feminist views.

I hope this helps

 

[Phys251]

Even Caitlyn Jenner is against biological males competing with women.

Caitlyn Jenner backs N.Y. county's ban on trans women competing on women's sports teams

Jenner, who came out as transgender in 2015, alleged that trans women are “taking valuable opportunities” from cisgender women and “causing physical harm.”

www.nbcnews.com

IDGAF what the transphobic Caitlyn Jenner said. But at least you got her name and gender right. Progress?

I do not have feminist views.

I hope this helps

Earlier you said:

Its not a matter of transphobia, its more a matter of women's rights, and the fact that they shouldn't have to share a changing room with a biological male, or compete in sports with a biological male

Women's rights are feminism.

 

[dairyair]

You're missing the point.
Are (generally speaking) right-wingers seeking acceptance from left-wingers, or the other way around??

Think about this before answer. Think deeply

No one is expecting acceptance from you.
All that is being asked is leave them alone. It's none of your business.

think about this deeply before answering.
Why do you care what someone fells about themselves based on their biological and brain functions?

Why do you want LGBTs, which includes gays and bisexuals, to stay in the closet.
It's a MAGA problem. Not a society problem.

Aren't all men created equal and deserve the same opportunities. How about we tell religons to go into the closet? Stop pushing religions on the people.

 

[dairyair]

Really?? That's news to me.
Last time I checked we don't hold Pride parades, or demand people be canceled because we don't like what they say

Wait, didn't a bunch of MAGA boycott Target some time ago.
For having rainbow colors in their wardrobe selections?

Stop with the blind partisanship. You don't wear it well at all.

 

[Desert Storm]

IDGAF what the transphobic Caitlyn Jenner said. But at least you got her name and gender right. Progress?



Earlier you said:



Women's rights are feminism.

Just because I value this particular part of women's rights, doesn't mean overall I'm a feminist

 

[Phys251]

Just because I value this particular part of women's rights, doesn't mean overall I'm a feminist

OMG learn to read. I implied that you had feminist views. I did not call you a feminist.

 

[Desert Storm]

No one is expecting acceptance from you.
All that is being asked is leave them alone. It's none of your business.

think about this deeply before answering.
Why do you care what someone fells about themselves based on their biological and brain functions?

Why do you want LGBTs, which includes gays and bisexuals, to stay in the closet.
It's a MAGA problem. Not a society problem.

Aren't all men created equal and deserve the same opportunities. How about we tell religons to go into the closet? Stop pushing religions on the people.

And you guys should stop pushing LGBT on the people.

(I'm not religious btw)

 

[Desert Storm]

OMG learn to read. I implied that you had feminist views. I did not call you a feminist

Good, that's about the first thing you got right then so far

 

[dairyair]

No, they want to share changing rooms with women, and they want to be able compete with women.

That is infringing on the rights of others

In your world, competing in the sport they ID with is infringing.
trans competing doesn't take away from other competing. Nothing is infringed upon. That's a very silly argument.

 

[dairyair]

And you guys should stop pushing LGBT on the people.

(I'm not religious btw)

Care less if your religious or not.
All humans, per the all men are created equal writing of our founders.

Stop taking rights away our founders gave us.
Taking the religions away is also something the founders said can not be done.

But here you are, trying to make some humans less human than others and taking rights away from them.

 

[Desert Storm]

Care less if your religious or not.
All humans, per the all men are created equal writing of our founders.

Stop taking rights away our founders gave us.
Taking the religions away is also something the founders said can not be done.

But here you are, trying to make some humans less human than others and taking rights away from them

A biological male competing against women, and able to use the women's changing room is not a "right".

It never has been a right, it's you trying to change it into a right

 

[Desert Storm]

In your world, competing in the sport they ID with is infringing.
trans competing doesn't take away from other competing. Nothing is infringed upon. That's a very silly argument.

It absolutely does take away from others competing.
Biological maless are known to be stronger and faster.
Lia Thomas had a huge competitive edge.
That's why she won so many medals

 

[dairyair]

It absolutely does take away from others competing.
Biological maless are known to be stronger and faster.
Lia Thomas had a huge competitive edge.
That's why she wants so many medals

How do trans competing take away from others competing. Everyone who enters and is eligible competes.

We aren't talking biological males here. What ever that is. I bet you don't know what a biological male is. And a penis isn't the correct answer.

Sports organizations have been determining eligibility since the day the 1st woman's sporting event happened over 100 yrs ago.
They set the rules and are very good at filtering competitors based on their own criteria.

You likely have ZERO experience in human sexuality and gender, so why should you dictate a sports organizations rules.

 

[Phys251]

And you guys should stop pushing LGBT on the people.

(I'm not religious btw)

That's the same argument that the homophobes used as well. Stop copying them.

 

[dairyair]

It absolutely does take away from others competing.
Biological maless are known to be stronger and faster.
Lia Thomas had a huge competitive edge.
That's why she won so many medals

This born biological woman dominated her sport. Won olympic gold medals. Then the committee changed the rules and she could no longer compete.
Gender isn't binary.

...

Who is Caster Semenya?​

Caster Semenya is a two-time Olympic champion and three-time world champion over 800m.

Between 2009 and 2019, the South African dominated her sport, with victory in the Doha Diamond League 800m in May 2019 being her 30th consecutive victory, external over the distance.

She was given a hero's welcome in South Africa after picking up her first World Championship gold in 2009, with thousands of jubilant fans turning out at Johannesburg airport to greet her.

However, her rapid rise from unknown teenager to global star was also accompanied by scrutiny over her gender and possible advantages in her biology.

It was later revealed that the 32-year-old was born with differences of sexual development (DSD) which mean she has an elevated level of testosterone - a hormone that can increase muscle mass and strength.

Caster Semenya Q&A: Who is she and why is her case important?

With Caster Semenya back in the news, BBC Sport looks at why her case is important.

www.bbc.com

 

[Desert Storm]

How do trans competing take away from others competing. Everyone who enters and is eligible competes.

We aren't talking biological males here. What ever that is. I bet you don't know what a biological male is. And a penis isn't the correct answer.

Sports organizations have been determining eligibility since the day the 1st woman's sporting event happened over 100 yrs ago.
They set the rules and are very good at filtering competitors based on their own criteria.

You likely have ZERO experience in human sexuality and gender, so why should you dictate a sports organizations rules.

We actually are talking about biological males.

Organizations like World Athletics, World Aquatics, and the International Cycling Union have adopted policies that restrict participation for transgender women who have not transitioned before puberty. The National Association of Intercollegiate Athletics (NAIA) has also essentially banned transgender athletes from women's sports

 

[Phys251]

We actually are talking about biological males.

Trans women are women, no matter how many times you repeat your transphobic line.

Organizations like World Athletics, World Aquatics, and the International Cycling Union have adopted policies that restrict participation for transgender women who have not transitioned before puberty. The National Association of Intercollegiate Athletics (NAIA) has also essentially banned transgender athletes from women's sports

That's fine. What's not fine is right-wing politicians trying to regulate women's and girls' genitals while they're protecting a sexual predator in the White House.