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If you are tired of the myths and superstitions of religion......

gooseneck said:
I am a full blown atheist.
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And?? Are you going down the path of nhiliism?
What is wrong with finding excitement in the world, and, for that matter, finding purpose in helping others?
 
RAMOSS said:
And?? Are you going down the path of nhiliism?
What is wrong with finding excitement in the world, and, for that matter, finding purpose in helping others?
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The ultimate conclusion is that it doesn’t matter what you do in life at all. I avoid that path. I do not mind living with paradoxes and contradicting myself constantly. Nihilism is deadly. I believe that on faith. So maybe I do have a religion after all. Perhaps I am anti-nihilist.

Christianity, or the other mythologies out there can enhance and beautify life. For example: I taught my children that the idea of Santa Clause is absurd but that it is a lot of fun to believe in him. The concept of Santa Clause always makes the Christmas season a lot more fun. Would my kids die without believing in Santa? No. Would they live without believing in Santa? Yes. Well, in Christianity Jesus says that he did not come so that we could have life but so that we can have life more abundantly. Believing in Jesus is not necessary but it does make life more fun. The creator of Jesus understood this concept and created the best myth ever.
 
gooseneck said:
The ultimate conclusion is that it doesn’t matter what you do in life at all. I avoid that path. I do not mind living with paradoxes and contradicting myself constantly. Nihilism is deadly. I believe that on faith. So maybe I do have a religion after all. Perhaps I am anti-nihilist.

Christianity, or the other mythologies out there can enhance and beautify life. For example: I taught my children that the idea of Santa Clause is absurd but that it is a lot of fun to believe in him. The concept of Santa Clause always makes the Christmas season a lot more fun. Would my kids die without believing in Santa? No. Would they live without believing in Santa? Yes. Well, in Christianity Jesus says that he did not come so that we could have life but so that we can have life more abundantly. Believing in Jesus is not necessary but it does make life more fun. The creator of Jesus understood this concept and created the best myth ever.
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So why not believe every myth is true? More myths, more fun. But not really. Not when it distorts your perception of reality too much or makes you vulnerable to charismatic leaders who form cults.
 
devildavid said:
So why not believe every myth is true? More myths, more fun. But not really. Not when it distorts your perception of reality too much or makes you vulnerable to charismatic leaders who form cults.
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You are right. Humans eat mythology like Valium. I’m not exactly sure you can eliminate this human tendency. Sales and marketing are guilty of the same tactic as religious cult leaders. Telling people what they want to believe is a lot more useful than telling people the truth. Telling the truth will gets you punched in the face. Telling lies will give you wealth, peace, prosperity, and friends galore. I’m not exactly sure you can eliminate this human tendency.
 
gooseneck said:
What does humanism espouse as the purpose of life? If it offers an explanation of why we exist then it can protect a deep thinker from existential thought.
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Not sure what you mean by "why we exist". We exist because we represent the apex of hundreds of millions of years of evolution at the present time. We exist because we were lucky enough to live on a planet that had the natural resources and position in the solar system to allow that to happen. This is really not a great mystery, is it?
 
gooseneck said:
You are right. Sometimes all we have is the gift of observation. I didn’t have sufficient money to hire a firm to conduct a survey that you would have rejected.

If you do not believe that life is brutal then you are a fortunate person. You should reject everything I say because the philosophy you have of life is working really good for you. Don’t distort it with my logic.
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What logic?
 
gooseneck said:
What does humanism espouse as the purpose of life? If it offers an explanation of why we exist then it can protect a deep thinker from existential thought.
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The purpose of life is to live it in the best way possible in coordination with the ethical systems developed by long-term stable societies.
 
watsup said:
The purpose of life is to live it in the best way possible in coordination with the ethical systems developed by long-term stable societies.
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Who says? Not everyone lives by that standard...some enjoy living their lives free to do what they want, even if it hurts others...examples, serial killers, child molesters, thieves, extortioners...the list goes on...
 
Elvira said:
Who says? Not everyone lives by that standard...some enjoy living their lives free to do what they want, even if it hurts others...examples, serial killers, child molesters, thieves, extortioners...the list goes on...
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Those types of activities do not contribute to a long-term stable society.
 
watsup said:
Those types of activities do not contribute to a long-term stable society.
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Which is exactly why such people must be done away with in order to sustain a happy, peaceful life...that is not cruelty by God, that is justice...
 
Elvira said:
Which is exactly why such people must be done away with in order to sustain a happy, peaceful life...that is not cruelty by God, that is justice...
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I’m not exactly sure what you are recommending here.
 
watsup said:
I’m not exactly sure what you are recommending here.
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I've been told by numerous atheists that God is cruel...He is not cruel, He is just...
 
watsup said:
So you are recommending that God simply strike criminals dead?
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I don't have to recommend nothin'...He will...Psalm 37:10...that is the only way everlasting peace will come to the earth...
 
Cordelier said:
I don't know if you've ever met Angel hereabouts - I haven't seen him post in a while - but a while back he and I started a thread discussing the links between art and religion... it didn't really attract a whole lot of input and never really took off, but it got me thinking about how deep the connection actually went. Every great artistic masterpiece - whether it's a sculpture or a painting or book or whatever else - shares something fundamental in that it tends to say more about the artist than the subject itself. The greater the masterpiece, the more of him or herself the artist puts into it's creation.

So if all of existence is God's creation... if He is the artist of it all - then mustn't the canvas contain His fingerprints?
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You're right, almost all art has some religious symbolism, just look at the death of general Wolfe.
 
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