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If Trump is not behaving as an authoritarian

Should they abdicate because they didn't play the game the way you would have liked them to do?
No, the Cabinet members should abdicate because they are not qualified for the positions they hold.

They didn't have to cover up their leader's senility or shove in a DEI hire at the last minute and hope for a Hail Mary victory. And they didn't have to lie about Trump's son and a laptop full of incriminating evidence against his father.
They are covering up Trump's senility despite daily examples of his brain rotting. Trump's sons don't have laptops as they require typing skills

They won the top prize fair and square.
Much like Biden did yet years later Trump can't bring himself to accept he was beaten whining every week he was cheated. And whatever happened to Trumps promises of curing all ills on day one? WHOOPS!!
Nice job demeaning Trump and his family. Same old propaganda without any real results.

You should refine such inconsequential rhetoric and prepare it for next year's political contest because it is useless this year given Trump's successful legislative victory combined with a decisive bombing campaign against Iran.
 
Nice job demeaning Trump and his family. Same old propaganda without any real results.

You should refine such inconsequential rhetoric and prepare it for next year's political contest because it is useless this year given Trump's successful legislative victory combined with a decisive bombing campaign against Iran.
It is inconsequential to my animals as well for the same reason it is to you.
By the way you may want to reexamine the results of that bombing. Obliterated??!! Nah.
 
1. Go to court
2. There becomes a local injunction, given that this is where the actual case is being adjudicated.
3. POTUS always has to interpret what the law means when enforcing the law

How is that any different than what I said?
Prior to this ruling, if a federal court found an executive order unconstitutional or unlawful, it often issued a "universal" or "nationwide" injunction, preventing the government from enforcing that order against anyone in the country. The CASA decision largely eliminates this practice, meaning executive orders can take effect in areas not covered by a specific injunction.

Indeed, following the CASA decision, some states that were part of the initial challenge to the birthright citizenship executive order do still have injunctions in place that protect their residents, as those states were original plaintiffs. Other states, or individuals within those states, would need to file their own lawsuits to seek similar relief.

So:

1: To find relief from an unconstitutional EO a Class has to be created assuming it can clear that bar (a process that could take weeks to months depending on the state you liv in).
2: You have the join the class.
3. The local court can issue a TRO if your lawyer can clear the bar (which often fails on procedural grounds, even if the courts find sufficient justification), but the TRO only applies to the individual or members of a class.
3: You then have to hope that the lawsuit ends in your favor.

So if you win your case, the court can issue an injunction, but it would typically be a "local" or "party-specific" injunction, meaning it would only protect you (and potentially other specific individuals or a certified class of people within that lawsuit). It would not automatically apply nationwide or even statewide unless the lawsuit itself was a successful class action encompassing a broader group.

In other words:

If an executive order on birthright citizenship were to go into effect a newborn of an immigrant would be subject to that interpretation (even if others have won their cases in the same or other jurisdictions). To challenge it and assert your 14th Amendment rights, you would likely need to initiate a lawsuit. Until a court rules in your favor (or a class action is certified that includes you), the administration's policy would apply to you even if, as stated, it didn't apply to others.

Now in my ammunition example, there is no guarantee of a TRO in many cases, your person or business would be subject to that rule and you could have your property taken and destroyed, you could lose your business or you could be charged (even if courts don't uphold, the punishment is in the time and expense it takes to defend yourself) federally under the EO's interpretation.

Which means, while the law could be found unconstitutional in one place and rights restored, in another it could be found constitutional.

Of course it would elevate to SCOTUS, but that can take years if SCOTUS chooses to hear it, in the mean time you are subject to that law, which isn't always a big deal, in other cases irreversible damage can be done, which is, of course, why nationwide TRO's exist.
 
The party will stick with him until they can't. Just like with Nixon. The party finally had to see him go because Nixon could not be saved.
It could happen to Trump.

Republican congressmen told Nixon that he didn't have their support and wouldn't survive an impeachment. That was back when most politicians did the right thing because it was the right thing to do. They could have "saved" Nixon the same way Republicans saved trump twice already, by not convicting him in the Senate.

MAGA congressmen are just trying to stay in office, even though it means not doing the right thing. The few that stand up to vote the right way, like Tillis, are quickly shown the door. I would be surprised to hear that Tillis' answering machine wasn't filled with death threats.
 
I agree the SCOTUS overruled Colorado's decision to withhold Trump from the ballot. I understand that. What YOU fail to understand it is moot. My point was the Colorado court determined the Trump participated in insurrection. That was a finding of the court. The SCOTUS does not make that go away. See concept of collateral estoppel.... the fact findings of a lower court are not set when a verdict is set aside. They become established facts that can be cited in future cases. Here is one court finding that is now established fact: TRUMP was FOUND BY A COURT OF LAW TO HAVE PARTICIPATED IN INSURRECTION. It is a fact. Your rants of questionable rationality to not make that go away.
According to the bizarre theory presented it's of questionable rationale not to accept a state court judge's finding in a case the SCOTUS tossed in the dumpster. The risible narrative is that somehow the finding survived the highest court determining reversible error with the state supreme court's decision. Naturally no support for the claim is presented.

You think Biden’s AG wouldn't have leaped on your ersatz collateral estoppel if it had the slightest bit of validity? Nope.


Again, you are off on your conspiracy rants about a 'cabal of judges'. You have no clue about the case and why it was determined the way it was. The judges came from various political influences. They are liberal and conservative, but they are attorneys and judges first. Trump had his day in court.... he tried to make the case that the House investigation was political rather than argue that he did not participate in the insurrection. He lost on the former point, which established that he had participated in insurrection. The judge somewhat admonished Trump's attorney for not even challenging the assertion that he was involved in the insurrection. I gave you entire opinion in my previous post. Read it if you dare step into the world of fact...
You have lost the plot. The judges that matter are on the SCOTUS bench.
You, who seems to wallow in political porn (political smut that feeds your fantasies, which is well in your post), may not realize the ball was spiked, but it was. It apparently flew right passed you... and you are scrambling to catch up.


So, in the Orange Man Bad fantasy world the purveyors of wildly wrong speculation can only congratulate themselves.
 
How is that any different than what I said?
Prior to this ruling, if a federal court found an executive order unconstitutional or unlawful, it often issued a "universal" or "nationwide" injunction, preventing the government from enforcing that order against anyone in the country. The CASA decision largely eliminates this practice, meaning executive orders can take effect in areas not covered by a specific injunction.

Indeed, following the CASA decision, some states that were part of the initial challenge to the birthright citizenship executive order do still have injunctions in place that protect their residents, as those states were original plaintiffs. Other states, or individuals within those states, would need to file their own lawsuits to seek similar relief.

So:

1: To find relief from an unconstitutional EO a Class has to be created assuming it can clear that bar (a process that could take weeks to months depending on the state you liv in).
2: You have the join the class.
3. The local court can issue a TRO if your lawyer can clear the bar (which often fails on procedural grounds, even if the courts find sufficient justification), but the TRO only applies to the individual or members of a class.
3: You then have to hope that the lawsuit ends in your favor.

So if you win your case, the court can issue an injunction, but it would typically be a "local" or "party-specific" injunction, meaning it would only protect you (and potentially other specific individuals or a certified class of people within that lawsuit). It would not automatically apply nationwide or even statewide unless the lawsuit itself was a successful class action encompassing a broader group.

In other words:

If an executive order on birthright citizenship were to go into effect a newborn of an immigrant would be subject to that interpretation (even if others have won their cases in the same or other jurisdictions). To challenge it and assert your 14th Amendment rights, you would likely need to initiate a lawsuit. Until a court rules in your favor (or a class action is certified that includes you), the administration's policy would apply to you even if, as stated, it didn't apply to others.

Now in my ammunition example, there is no guarantee of a TRO in many cases, your person or business would be subject to that rule and you could have your property taken and destroyed, you could lose your business or you could be charged (even if courts don't uphold, the punishment is in the time and expense it takes to defend yourself) federally under the EO's interpretation.

Which means, while the law could be found unconstitutional in one place and rights restored, in another it could be found constitutional.

Of course it would elevate to SCOTUS, but that can take years if SCOTUS chooses to hear it, in the mean time you are subject to that law, which isn't always a big deal, in other cases irreversible damage can be done, which is, of course, why nationwide TRO's exist.

It's not true that "typically" a judge would issue a nationwide injunction. And that's because, as Justice Barret observed, that judges are only dealing with the cases in front of them.
Nationwide injunctions were rare until recently. Justice Kagan a few years ago said such injunctions cause problems and that there needed to be a solution.

Damage by nationwide injunctions can impact the Executive branch and Legislative branch as well. It doesn't work one way.
 
Republican congressmen told Nixon that he didn't have their support and wouldn't survive an impeachment. That was back when most politicians did the right thing because it was the right thing to do. y, They could have "saved" Nixon the same way Republicans saved trump twice alreadby not convicting him in the Senate.

MAGA congressmen are just trying to stay in office, even though it means not doing the right thing. The few that stand up to vote the right way, like Tillis, are quickly shown the door. I would be surprised to hear that Tillis' answering machine wasn't filled with death threats.
Such a grim and foreboding post. As I understand it the Senators who told Nixon he had to resign felt he would have been convicted by two-thirds of the Senate. Nixon did not want to be the first person tried and convicted by the Senate. A smart move.
If you have any evidence the Republicans "could have "saved" Nixon the same way Republicans saved trump twice already", I'd like to see it.

Political survival is uppermost in every politician's mind. Tillis knew his time was up. In business you don't defy your boss unless you have another job lined up.
Why should politicians be different if you are a representative in the most important political body in the world?"

Yes, Tillis is a saint and now he has to find something else to do.
 
Such a grim and foreboding post. As I understand it the Senators who told Nixon he had to resign felt he would have been convicted by two-thirds of the Senate. Nixon did not want to be the first person tried and convicted by the Senate. A smart move.
If you have any evidence the Republicans "could have "saved" Nixon the same way Republicans saved trump twice already", I'd like to see it.

It's just a numbers thing. There were enough Republicans in the Senate that they could have prevented conviction if they simply voted in lockstep - like today's Republicans do.

Political survival is uppermost in every politician's mind. Tillis knew his time was up. In business you don't defy your boss unless you have another job lined up.
Why should politicians be different if you are a representative in the most important political body in the world?"

Yes, Tillis is a saint and now he has to find something else to do.

Tillis voted in the best interests of his constituents, like Congressmen and Senators are supposed to do. They take an oath. If the bill didn't stink, they wouldn't have needed the arm-twisting and political favors to get the votes.

MAGA math screws up the whole process in that congressmen don't need to vote in their constituents' best interests. They just need to ride the MAGA coattails, an the MAGA voters are too stupid to understand the consequences. They are voting against their own interests.
 
It's not true that "typically" a judge would issue a nationwide injunction. And that's because, as Justice Barret observed, that judges are only dealing with the cases in front of them.
Nationwide injunctions were rare until recently. Justice Kagan a few years ago said such injunctions cause problems and that there needed to be a solution.

Damage by nationwide injunctions can impact the Executive branch and Legislative branch as well. It doesn't work one way.

My point isn't that nationwide injunctions were perfect or without their own issues. Rather, it's about the consequences of their elimination, particularly for individuals challenging potentially unlawful executive actions.

While the Court's decision addresses concerns about judicial overreach, it effectively shifts the burden onto citizens. As you noted:

  • The path to broad relief now primarily runs through complex and time-consuming class action lawsuits. This means significant delays, legal costs, and procedural hurdles that can effectively deny relief to many.
  • The risk of "patchwork" enforcement is very real. An executive order could be deemed unconstitutional for one person or in one state, but still apply to others elsewhere. In my hypothetical ammunition example, this means some individuals could face immediate property seizure or criminal charges, while others (who were part of a successful lawsuit or class) are protected. The 'punishment' for many would indeed be in the time, expense, and irreversible damage incurred before any final judicial determination.
So, while the CASA ruling resolved the Court's concerns about the scope of judicial power, it undeniably creates a new set of practical challenges and potential for uneven application of federal policy, especially when executive orders are issued that have immediate and significant impacts on individuals' rights or property. Combine that with a President who has no respect for norms or tradition when it get's in the way of his radical authoritarian agenda and it's a recipe for disaster for citizens who aren't aligned with the ideology of the President (and even some who are).

And I don't care who is in office or what party they belong to, I'd feel exactly the same way.

My example of banning commercial ammunition is perfectly plausible example of executive over-reach that could affect millions of people and 100's of thousands of business owners, and even if the hypothetical I created were defeated, the damage that could be done is significant and when it happens it will be just another thing that some of us roll our eyes and say; "we tried to tell you".....

Perhaps the solution to limit judicial power, (which I'm not totally against) should be met with a limit on executive power.
 
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It's just a numbers thing. There were enough Republicans in the Senate that they could have prevented conviction if they simply voted in lockstep - like today's Republicans do.



Tillis voted in the best interests of his constituents, like Congressmen and Senators are supposed to do. They take an oath. If the bill didn't stink, they wouldn't have needed the arm-twisting and political favors to get the votes.

MAGA math screws up the whole process in that congressmen don't need to vote in their constituents' best interests. They just need to ride the MAGA coattails, an the MAGA voters are too stupid to understand the consequences. They are voting against their own interests.
Every one of them? Some of them? Those that want to keep their positions until Trump is gone? Those who believe riding on the coattails of a strong leader is a way to survive in such a cutthroat business?
Are you familiar with the real world of national politics?
Or Are you simply being naive because of your hatred for Trump and the GOP?

OK, now I am ready for your moral condemnation as soon as you dismount from your very high moral horse.
 
Every one of them? Some of them? Those that want to keep their positions until Trump is gone? Those who believe riding on the coattails of a strong leader is a way to survive in such a cutthroat business?
Are you familiar with the real world of national politics?
Or Are you simply being naive because of your hatred for Trump and the GOP?

I'm not so naive that I don't recognize the changes in American politics over the years. It has become hyper-partisan, starting with Gingrich. That's not a good thing, especially with the way presidents are elected. Now we have a full-on right-wing media ecosystem that constantly pumps out BS for the rubes, who still think that Obama was a secret Muslim born in Kenya and that other countries pay our tariffs.

I had no hatred of the GOP before trump. Dubya tested my patience plenty, but he wasn't a bad man. trump, on the other hand, is a horrible human being.

OK, now I am ready for your moral condemnation as soon as you dismount from your very high moral horse.

My horse is no higher than other horses, but at least I'm on one. Morality should matter.
 
trump, on the other hand, is a horrible human being.
Just a thought on this note.

So many I meet who share a fondness for Trump, if our conversations center on Trump for any length of time, almost to a person ask me why I only focus on the bad things he does.

Most people don't realize that when we we decide for ourselves what we think of a person, we overwhelmingly weight the bad far more than the good. Anyone reading this not sure?

Try this little experiment. Tell your wife, girlfriend-boyfriend or significant other (or of you don't have any of those, maybe your mom?), tell them how wonderful they are in whatever terms you know they like to hear. Be thoughtful, do nice things and keep it up for a while. Now, tell them something you know will make them feel awful. If they are insecure about their weight make comments about what they are eating in a really judgmental tone, and perhaps throw in a little comment about how if they'd just try a little harder they could be really attractive. If they don't like how their ears stick out, say something cruel about them.....You get the point.

Now, when they get really upset at you, and they will get very very upset if you do it right, while they are mad, or even better crying, ask them why they are only focused on the one thing you said, why they are ignoring all the days you went out of your way to be extra nice. You know why? Because we expect people to be nice. We expect them to treat others with respect and we also expect they won't be cruel.

There is very little Trump could ever hope to do to redeem himself. Despite the few positive things he does, which I always suspect is driven by corrupt or selfish motivations underneath, because he genuinely lacks empathy and social grace. He acts like a petulant spoiled child whose insecurities are larger than almost anyone I've ever met.

Trump derangement syndrome is how MAGA copes what many of us see as clearly as we can see our hands in front of our face, Trump is a bad person.

I say to them, ask your doctor about:

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Trump said recently to an open air audience "Liberals hate America". Goldilocks I can't vouge for others, but I love America it's YOU I hate.
 
My point isn't that nationwide injunctions were perfect or without their own issues. Rather, it's about the consequences of their elimination, particularly for individuals challenging potentially unlawful executive actions.

While the Court's decision addresses concerns about judicial overreach, it effectively shifts the burden onto citizens. As you noted:

  • The path to broad relief now primarily runs through complex and time-consuming class action lawsuits. This means significant delays, legal costs, and procedural hurdles that can effectively deny relief to many.
  • The risk of "patchwork" enforcement is very real. An executive order could be deemed unconstitutional for one person or in one state, but still apply to others elsewhere. In my hypothetical ammunition example, this means some individuals could face immediate property seizure or criminal charges, while others (who were part of a successful lawsuit or class) are protected. The 'punishment' for many would indeed be in the time, expense, and irreversible damage incurred before any final judicial determination.
So, while the CASA ruling resolved the Court's concerns about the scope of judicial power, it undeniably creates a new set of practical challenges and potential for uneven application of federal policy, especially when executive orders are issued that have immediate and significant impacts on individuals' rights or property. Combine that with a President who has no respect for norms or tradition when it get's in the way of his radical authoritarian agenda and it's a recipe for disaster for citizens who aren't aligned with the ideology of the President (and even some who are).

And I don't care who is in office or what party they belong to, I'd feel exactly the same way.

My example of banning commercial ammunition is perfectly plausible example of executive over-reach that could affect millions of people and 100's of thousands of business owners, and even if the hypothetical I created were defeated, the damage that could be done is significant and when it happens it will be just another thing that some of us roll our eyes and say; "we tried to tell you".....

Perhaps the solution to limit judicial power, (which I'm not totally against) should be met with a limit on executive power.

1. There are two parties in such a suit. A lone judge thwarting an action of the Executive can cause harm to that executive as well. Judge Barret was correct that judges deal with the cases in front of them, not hypotheticals elsewhere.

2. Judicial precedent doesn't just exist with SCOTUS. Circuit Courts and district courts have them as well, whose writ only exists within the jurisdiction of that court. The result of that is the same patchwork of constitutional in one district, yet unconstitutional elsewhere in another district or circuit.

That's how the system works. The most recent noteworthy example was last year when it was ruled in the southern district of Florida that Mr. Smith's appt as special prosecutor was unconstitutional and the charges there against Trump dismissed, and the DC circuit Court ruling that Smith appt was constitutional and the charges could stand.
In those circumstances, SCOTUS has to make the decision.
 
1. There are two parties in such a suit. A lone judge thwarting an action of the Executive can cause harm to that executive as well. Judge Barret was correct that judges deal with the cases in front of them, not hypotheticals elsewhere.

Pretty hard to argue that the Executive is going to be harmed by what amounts to a delay while the case goes up the chain, while the people affected by their actions are very definitely harmed in the present.

2. Judicial precedent doesn't just exist with SCOTUS. Circuit Courts and district courts have them as well, whose writ only exists within the jurisdiction of that court. The result of that is the same patchwork of constitutional in one district, yet unconstitutional elsewhere in another district or circuit.

Precedent absolutely exists, even for SCOTUS. They are supposed to follow their own rulings without a very good reason to overturn.
 
I'm not so naive that I don't recognize the changes in American politics over the years. It has become hyper-partisan, starting with Gingrich. That's not a good thing, especially with the way presidents are elected. Now we have a full-on right-wing media ecosystem that constantly pumps out BS for the rubes, who still think that Obama was a secret Muslim born in Kenya and that other countries pay our tariffs.

I had no hatred of the GOP before trump. Dubya tested my patience plenty, but he wasn't a bad man. trump, on the other hand, is a horrible human being.



My horse is no higher than other horses, but at least I'm on one. Morality should matter.
If morality mattered that much, Carter and Bush Sr. would have had 8-year Administrations.
 
Now the press is the devil according to Maybelline Trump. First, I have never heard a "once in a thousand year flood." A hyndred years fat boy is more accurate but accuracy in your brown brain is evil.

A reporter asked Trump on Friday, "Families are upset because they say that warnings didn't go out in time, and they say that people could have been saved. What do you say to those families?"
The president replied, in part, "Well, I think everyone did an incredible job under the circumstances. As [Department of Homeland Security Secretary] Kristi [Noem] said, this was a one in 1,000 years [flood]. I just have admiration for the job that everybody did."
Trump continued, "Only a bad perso
n would ask a question like that, to be honest with you, I don't know who you are, but only a very evil person would ask a question like that. This has been heroism.
 
Just a thought on this note.

So many I meet who share a fondness for Trump, if our conversations center on Trump for any length of time, almost to a person ask me why I only focus on the bad things he does.

Most people don't realize that when we we decide for ourselves what we think of a person, we overwhelmingly weight the bad far more than the good. Anyone reading this not sure?

Try this little experiment. Tell your wife, girlfriend-boyfriend or significant other (or of you don't have any of those, maybe your mom?), tell them how wonderful they are in whatever terms you know they like to hear. Be thoughtful, do nice things and keep it up for a while. Now, tell them something you know will make them feel awful. If they are insecure about their weight make comments about what they are eating in a really judgmental tone, and perhaps throw in a little comment about how if they'd just try a little harder they could be really attractive. If they don't like how their ears stick out, say something cruel about them.....You get the point.

Now, when they get really upset at you, and they will get very very upset if you do it right, while they are mad, or even better crying, ask them why they are only focused on the one thing you said, why they are ignoring all the days you went out of your way to be extra nice. You know why? Because we expect people to be nice. We expect them to treat others with respect and we also expect they won't be cruel.

There is very little Trump could ever hope to do to redeem himself. Despite the few positive things he does, which I always suspect is driven by corrupt or selfish motivations underneath, because he genuinely lacks empathy and social grace. He acts like a petulant spoiled child whose insecurities are larger than almost anyone I've ever met.

Trump derangement syndrome is how MAGA copes what many of us see as clearly as we can see our hands in front of our face, Trump is a bad person.

I say to them, ask your doctor about:

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The reality, frankly, is that they're are no discernable redeeming qualities in the man. Now, I generally have sympathy for those who have a obvious mental conditions, as he does. I believe in universal Healthcare, and that includes behavioral health, and he should get it, but the results of his psychopathy are what concern me most. He is not getting the support he needs, rather he is being encouraged in his depravity by others who share in his personality defects, or have their own.

What we find revolting is the depravity, not the person. But, one can endure it for only so long before properly attributing it to the person as its source.
 
1. There are two parties in such a suit. A lone judge thwarting an action of the Executive can cause harm to that executive as well. Judge Barret was correct that judges deal with the cases in front of them, not hypotheticals elsewhere.
Give us real examples of how temporarily delaying the actions the actions of Trump's EO's has been harmful.

Then we can measure anything you can come up with against harm prevented by recent injunctions.
2. Judicial precedent doesn't just exist with SCOTUS. Circuit Courts and district courts have them as well, whose writ only exists within the jurisdiction of that court. The result of that is the same patchwork of constitutional in one district, yet unconstitutional elsewhere in another district or circuit.

That's how the system works. The most recent noteworthy example was last year when it was ruled in the southern district of Florida that Mr. Smith's appt as special prosecutor was unconstitutional and the charges there against Trump dismissed, and the DC circuit Court ruling that Smith appt was constitutional and the charges could stand.
The general principles of judicial precedent and the "patchwork" effect are accurately described with precedent existing within that circuit. However, the specific example regarding the Jack Smith/Trump cases is outdated in its final resolution and misattributes a direct, conflicting D.C. Circuit ruling on Smith's appointment to directly counter the Florida decision. The appeal of the Florida decision went to the 11th Circuit, and that appeal was ultimately withdrawn regarding Trump after the 2024 election because of longstanding policy that prohibits prosecution of the President.
 
Why is it so easy to find so many parallels to fascist regimes in the past and the present?

Because you just make shit up to slander the man who kept your party from absolute power,


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Because you just make shit up to slander the man who kept your party from absolute power,


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You misspelled whatever word you were trying to express. Facts have a tendency to elude you. Did you mean to post in the CT thread?
 
Because you just make shit up to slander the man who kept your party from absolute power
It's telling that you decided to dodge the question with a claim you've failed to provide any evidence for all while the irony of your statment isn't lost on any of us that see that see a man in Trump, and conservatives in general, who are embracing the idea of the Unitary Executive Theory, which is little more a grab for the power you accuse the [other] party from trying to grab.

Evidence?

The firing of inspector generals without cause

Firing of hundreds of FBI agents who had anything to do with investigating an 6th

Issuance of about 1 EO per day so far this term. At the current pace, you'd have to go back to Roosevelt to find more.

Trump's demand for loyalty seemingly above the Constitution.

And of course, nothing more than the idea of a Unitary Executive Theory.

None of that is in dispute.
 
It's telling that you decided to dodge the question with a claim you've failed to provide any evidence for all while the irony of your statment isn't lost on any of us that see that see a man in Trump, and conservatives in general, who are embracing the idea of the Unitary Executive Theory, which is little more a grab for the power you accuse the [other] party from trying to grab.

Evidence?

The firing of inspector generals without cause

Firing of hundreds of FBI agents who had anything to do with investigating an 6th

Issuance of about 1 EO per day so far this term. At the current pace, you'd have to go back to Roosevelt to find more.

Trump's demand for loyalty seemingly above the Constitution.

And of course, nothing more than the idea of a Unitary Executive Theory.

None of that is in dispute.
The reality is that none of it is really in dispute. The ridiculous claims of Biden or Obama being "tyrannical" are just a cover for endorsing the fascist record of their white savior by creating a false narrative.

That's probably the biggest tell. The current regime is following the fascist/1984 playbook to the letter. They produce outlandish lies every day and behave with impunity on every subject. The idea, as Trump as always done, is to overwhelm the "opposition" (which is everyone) with a flood of lies, abuses and outlandish behavior so that they are always playing clean up. Unfortunately we'll all have to suffer.

Too many of our most vociferous posters are bought into the plan and follow the lead, posting a flood of outlandish lies, not responding, then doing the same in another thread, keeping even the Mods off balance.
 
The reality is that none of it is really in dispute. The ridiculous claims of Biden or Obama being "tyrannical" are just a cover for endorsing the fascist record of their white savior by creating a false narrative.

That's probably the biggest tell. The current regime is following the fascist/1984 playbook to the letter. They produce outlandish lies every day and behave with impunity on every subject. The idea, as Trump as always done, is to overwhelm the "opposition" (which is everyone) with a flood of lies, abuses and outlandish behavior so that they are always playing clean up. Unfortunately we'll all have to suffer.

Too many of our most vociferous posters are bought into the plan and follow the lead, posting a flood of outlandish lies, not responding, then doing the same in another thread, keeping even the Mods off balance.
For my part, I feel like the nation and more specially it's political and economic system are in a race to the bottom.

Elected officials are placed in a difficult position, where the actions required to maintain their political viability are often at odds with the ethical and adequate representation they are sworn to provide, leading to a system that frustrates both the governors and the governed.

I think this is the result of increasing disparity between the top 1/2 of the economy that currently controls 96.5% of all wealth and the bottom half that controls just 3.5%. More money and power at the top increasingly corrupts the system in favor of those in the top 1/2, often at the expense of those in the bottom 1/2 and creates an increasing number of people who feel disenfranchised.

I was reading about the Taylor Swift concert debacle a few years ago (not sure when), where she insisted that her tickets be sold far, far below the market price with the intention of giving more access to her fans. Then sold every venue at the same time. Instead of Ticket Master making billions, scalpers swooped in and made billions. I think it's a fascinating microcosm of the social, political and economic dynamics of the current environment we live in in the US and is very much a lesson to liberals and conservatives alike on how social, political and market forces can collide and creates a clear division between ideas of fairness and the reality of the power and access that money affords, problems with solutions that are profoundly influenced by your beliefs about society, politics and economics.

Like most things, this is not simple an issue of fairness or, what really amounts to, might makes right. It is a much more nuanced issue that runs much deeper than most people are willing to admit because most people are unwilling or incapable of dedicating the time, effort and humility it takes to learn something that complicated. Interestingly, I thought the the article I read, which I'd link but I cannot find it, missed the forest for the trees.

I might start that thread shortly. Stand by.

Hope to see you there.
 
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