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If this were the 1950s

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The 1950s are considered by many the "halcyon days" of the United States. It was certainly not an era without warts, but it was as certainly the era that cemented our perception of modern "America". It was a "Boom" time in nearly every sense of the word. "Historians use the word “boom” to describe a lot of things about the 1950s: the booming economy, the booming suburbs and most of all the so-called “baby boom.”" (History) Many (if not most) of us are products of that last "boom" as "Boomers". It was certainly an era of optimism. We'd just survived one of the darkest periods of world history with a global economic Depression and a World War.

So what made that era so great, and how might that apply to today? What would things look like if this were the 1950s? What lessons could we apply?

Economically, we were in a growth spurt. We were building an interstate highway system and housing for millions in vast "suburbs". That infrastructure now needs a massive overhaul and updating. Culturally, we were surprisingly homogenous. There were three major television stations we all watched, and nearly every town had two newspapers representing the yin and yang of political discourse. We went to the same hit movies together, watched the same television shows. Union membership hit its peak, and prosperity reached nearly everyone proportionately (although not equally).

We had a common foreign enemy in communism and shared interests in institutions, like schools, the medical community and, shockingly, the Supreme Court. We all liked Ike (and Jack Kennedy even more). We were at peace and revered around the world as a nation. Equality was all the rage, though it sparked rage in some quarters, those were relatively small corners (which we forget). Veterans like my father, raised in a racist household, were appalled at the discrimination in the service and learned the value of cooperarion among diversity. That view was much more commonly held then than now believed. We pledged allegiance to the same flag and the values it represented.

Yes, the 50s had severe failures, but relatively speaking...? What can we learn and correct?
 
Seriously?

What made the 50's a boom was that the world's infrastructure had been destroyed and ours remained intact.

Geez. The shit folks believe,
That's your dispute with the post- your claim our boom was only because our infrastructure remained in tact?
Ignoring the fact that the infrastructure we had changed dramatically in the period of the 50's-60's?
 
Seriously?

What made the 50's a boom was that the world's infrastructure had been destroyed and ours remained intact.

Geez. The shit folks believe,
After the war, wise decision makers made sure our former adversaries were able to rise economically through free enterprise. Sometimes I wonder if there are ANY wise decision makers at all today.
 
The 1950s are considered by many the "halcyon days" of the United States. It was certainly not an era without warts, but it was as certainly the era that cemented our perception of modern "America". It was a "Boom" time in nearly every sense of the word. "Historians use the word “boom” to describe a lot of things about the 1950s: the booming economy, the booming suburbs and most of all the so-called “baby boom.”" (History) Many (if not most) of us are products of that last "boom" as "Boomers". It was certainly an era of optimism. We'd just survived one of the darkest periods of world history with a global economic Depression and a World War.

So what made that era so great, and how might that apply to today? What would things look like if this were the 1950s? What lessons could we apply?

Economically, we were in a growth spurt. We were building an interstate highway system and housing for millions in vast "suburbs". That infrastructure now needs a massive overhaul and updating. Culturally, we were surprisingly homogenous. There were three major television stations we all watched, and nearly every town had two newspapers representing the yin and yang of political discourse. We went to the same hit movies together, watched the same television shows. Union membership hit its peak, and prosperity reached nearly everyone proportionately (although not equally).

We had a common foreign enemy in communism and shared interests in institutions, like schools, the medical community and, shockingly, the Supreme Court. We all liked Ike (and Jack Kennedy even more). We were at peace and revered around the world as a nation. Equality was all the rage, though it sparked rage in some quarters, those were relatively small corners (which we forget). Veterans like my father, raised in a racist household, were appalled at the discrimination in the service and learned the value of cooperarion among diversity. That view was much more commonly held then than now believed. We pledged allegiance to the same flag and the values it represented.

Yes, the 50s had severe failures, but relatively speaking...? What can we learn and correct?

Except, of course, for the fact that if you weren’t a straight white dude you didn’t even have rights in the 1950s. America was an outright tyranny in many places.
 
Seriously?

What made the 50's a boom was that the world's infrastructure had been destroyed and ours remained intact.

Geez. The shit folks believe,
You've ignored far more than half the story, my friend.
 
Oh good lord, people. Think before you post. At least read and think about the OP before responding. Otherwise it provides as much substance as a burp - it smells vaguely like something you ate once.
 
Oh good lord, people. Think before you post. At least read and think about the OP before responding. Otherwise it provides as much substance as a burp - it smells vaguely like something you ate once.

Again, the premise that “the 1950s were so great” doesn’t hold water from the start.
 
Again, the premise that “the 1950s were so great” doesn’t hold water from the start.
That was closer to a fart than a burp. You don't really put much thought into your posts, do you?
 
Except, of course, for the fact that if you weren’t a straight white dude you didn’t even have rights in the 1950s. America was an outright tyranny in many places.
Yep. In the neighborhood where I was eventually raised during the 60's, the 50's saw firebombs hurled at any blacks that dared to move in. To this day, I wonder what my parents were thinking to move there.
 
That was closer to a fart than a burp. You don't really put much thought into your posts, do you?

No, it was a statement of fact. How were the 1950s supposedly “so great” when minorities couldn’t even exercise their basic constitutional rights?
 
Oh, I almost wanted to cry when I read the thread title.

I was a teenager in the 1950s.

I attended a private secondary school and then a private university here in Los Angeles (because I was too stupid to get into our (then) great state-supported University of California at Los Angeles.

My family visited San Francisco. It was (then) a quiet, orderly, and beautiful city.

Everyone (yes, everyone, for there were few choices on TV) watched Milton Berle (a comedian) and -- of course-- "I Love Lucy."

You could walk down the street in nice areas (including Downtown) without any fear of being robbed or sucker punched or murdered. No one thought twice about "crime."

It was truly our last peaceful and harmonious decade. (Yes, there were rumblings of discontent, but it was mostly low-keyed and not prominently featured in the news.)

What can we in this horribly divisive decade learn from the 1950s?

Nothing.

That was then; this is now.

Just as the 1920s in Germany were the 1920s, and the 1930s were the unbelievably horrific 1930s in Germany.

This nation, which is rapidly changing (in some respects for the worse), will never, ever see the tranquility that existed in the 1950s.
 
One lesson was the difference between the two parties. Eisenhower Republicans and Truman/Kennedy Democrats had much in common. Compromise was more of a rule than an exception. When push came to shove the needs of the country tended to be put above party politics.
 
Oh, I almost wanted to cry when I read the thread title.

I was a teenager in the 1950s.

I attended a private secondary school and then a private university here in Los Angeles (because I was too stupid to get into our (then) great state-supported University of California at Los Angeles.

My family visited San Francisco. It was (then) a quiet, orderly, and beautiful city.

Everyone (yes, everyone, for there were few choices on TV) watched Uncle Milton Berle (a comedian) and -- of course-- "I Love Lucy."

You could walk down the street in nice areas (including Downtown) without any fear of being robbed or sucker punched or murdered. No one thought twice about "crime."

It was truly our last peaceful and harmonious decade. (Yes, there were rumblings of discontent, but it was mostly low-keyed and not prominently featured in the news.)

What can we in this horribly divisive decade learn from the 1950s?

Nothing.

That was then; this is now.

Just as the 1920s in Germany were the 1920s, and the 1930s were the unbelievably horrific 1930s in Germany.

This nation, which is rapidly changing (in some respects for the worse), will never, ever see the tranquility that existed in the 1950s.

Lol yeah, so “peaceful” that terrorists literally ruled numerous states and could murder minorities with total impunity. Riiiiight 🙄
 
Lol yeah, so “peaceful” that terrorists literally ruled numerous states and could murder minorities with total impunity. Riiiiight 🙄
Sundown towns and lynching---"The good old days!"
 
"The booming prosperity of the 1950s helped to create a widespread sense of stability, contentment and consensus in the United States. However, that consensus was a fragile one, and it splintered for good during the tumultuous 1960s." (HISTORY) I appreciate the sentiment, but was it, is it true?
The Fifties: The Way We Really Were
 
Lol yeah, so “peaceful” that terrorists literally ruled numerous states and could murder minorities with total impunity. Riiiiight 🙄
Sundown towns and lynching---"The good old days!"
Jfcops, this isn't twitter. Can you perhaps put more thought into it? (This is why we can't have nice things...)
 
Jfcops, this isn't twitter. Can you perhaps put more thought into it?

Not sure why you are so outraged by, again another statement of fact. The 1950s saw terrorists effectively in control of most of the South. The government literally had to send in paratroopers to keep a mob from murdering teenagers for daring to go to school...simply because they were the “wrong” race.
 
"The booming prosperity of the 1950s helped to create a widespread sense of stability, contentment and consensus in the United States. However, that consensus was a fragile one, and it splintered for good during the tumultuous 1960s." (HISTORY) I appreciate the sentiment, but was it, is it true?
The Fifties: The Way We Really Were
Poverty was indeed higher in the 50's. But, of course, these facts confuse the idiots who listen to Fox news.

In the late 1950s, the poverty rate was approximately 22%, with just shy of 40 million Americans living in poverty. The rate declined steadily, reaching a low of 11.1% in 1973 and rising to a high of nearly 15% three times – in 1983, 1993 and 2011 – before hitting the all-time low of 10.5% in 2019.

 
Not sure why you are so outraged by, again another statement of fact. The 1950s saw terrorists effectively in control of most of the South. The government literally had to send in paratroopers to keep a mob from murdering teenagers for daring to go to school...simply because they were the “wrong” race.
I trust he was being sarcastic.
 
Not sure why you are so outraged by, again another statement of fact. The 1950s saw terrorists effectively in control of most of the South. The government literally had to send in paratroopers to keep a mob from murdering teenagers for daring to go to school...simply because they were the “wrong” race.
Put it in ****ing context! I noted in the OP some of those problems (didn't read that far, didya?), and the POINT of the thread is to discuss the whole thing, good, bad, ugly and its application to today. Look past the end of your nose, think longer 244 characters.
 
I started this OP with questions: what made that era so great, and how might that apply to today? What would things look like if this were the 1950s? What lessons could we apply? ...the 50s had severe failures, but relatively speaking...? What can we learn and correct?
 
The 1950s are considered by many the "halcyon days" of the United States. It was certainly not an era without warts, but it was as certainly the era that cemented our perception of modern "America". It was a "Boom" time in nearly every sense of the word. "Historians use the word “boom” to describe a lot of things about the 1950s: the booming economy, the booming suburbs and most of all the so-called “baby boom.”" (History) Many (if not most) of us are products of that last "boom" as "Boomers". It was certainly an era of optimism. We'd just survived one of the darkest periods of world history with a global economic Depression and a World War.

So what made that era so great, and how might that apply to today? What would things look like if this were the 1950s? What lessons could we apply?

Economically, we were in a growth spurt. We were building an interstate highway system and housing for millions in vast "suburbs". That infrastructure now needs a massive overhaul and updating. Culturally, we were surprisingly homogenous. There were three major television stations we all watched, and nearly every town had two newspapers representing the yin and yang of political discourse. We went to the same hit movies together, watched the same television shows. Union membership hit its peak, and prosperity reached nearly everyone proportionately (although not equally).

We had a common foreign enemy in communism and shared interests in institutions, like schools, the medical community and, shockingly, the Supreme Court. We all liked Ike (and Jack Kennedy even more). We were at peace and revered around the world as a nation. Equality was all the rage, though it sparked rage in some quarters, those were relatively small corners (which we forget). Veterans like my father, raised in a racist household, were appalled at the discrimination in the service and learned the value of cooperarion among diversity. That view was much more commonly held then than now believed. We pledged allegiance to the same flag and the values it represented.

Yes, the 50s had severe failures, but relatively speaking...? What can we learn and correct?
Weren't taxes like 70% to pay the war debt?
 
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