If Sanders is cheated again, should he demand a Write-In Wave in General Election?

[Puigb]

I'd say it's not only on this site, I seen it on another I belong to.

Everywhere, including Trump as I said. Trump did the same thing in 2016 as well. Trump has done nothing to expand his base 3-4 years later, so he and the GOP will try the same (admittedly successful) strategy again: Divide the Democrats enough so that he can squeak by a narrow victory.

 

[Puigb]

You think Trump's 304 to Hillary's 227 is a "narrow" victory?

Where did you learn this?

Trump's victory was literally due to thousands of votes in 3 blue states. Had those states gone to Hillary, she'd be president now. Yes, it was a very narrow victory.

 

[Rosie1]

I like Bernie too. I always have. But, I don't think he's being cheated this year. I think he's mostly blown it himself, with comments like the one about Cuba, and not pushing harder for the black vote. His supporters not turning out to vote in primaries doesn't help, nor his unfortunate recent heart attack.

Hopefully, he will endorse Biden. I'm not a big Biden fan, but I will vote for him. I hope he will pick an good popular younger candidate to run for Vice-president with him. He's so old, we may need a good VP.

 

[Jay59]

No, it was a search for truth about trump wrongs.
No, it was a massive basis impeachment, which Republicans chose to be criminal accomplices on.
Flynn was corrupt, which is how trump likes them.
Cult delusion.

You have the cult part right. TDS cult.

Everywhere, including Trump as I said. Trump did the same thing in 2016 as well. Trump has done nothing to expand his base 3-4 years later, so he and the GOP will try the same (admittedly successful) strategy again: Divide the Democrats enough so that he can squeak by a narrow victory.

And, more TDS. Your cult is what has not expanded.

The idea that Trump has not expanded his base is laughable. In addition to unifying the Republican party, excepting a few holdouts, Trump has made inroads with minorities and non-voters.

 

[Craig234]

A Biden and Sanders ticket could help strengthen the position of the left for public policy purposes.

To repeat, you just don't understand that Biden works for big donors and Bernie works for the working class, and they're no more going to run together than Coke and Pepsi are going to release a drink together. They'll both say soda is great, but they're not joining.

 

[joko104]

There are allot of Bernie Dems.

They are getting cheated again.

Biden is a Gaff, a Laugh, and is likely to lose his mind completely before the end of the first two months in office... if he doesn't just implode during a General Election Debate with Trump doing what Trump does best...

Biden doesn't stand a chance.

So.... Should Bernie just go for broke, and demand that all his followers do a Write-In Vote for Socialism in the General Election?

A Protest Vote, that will send a Message to all those damn Centrists, Go Hard Left, or Lose!

Hard to say, from here, with enough Election Fraud, He might just win!?

Bern America to the ground, go Write-In and send a message!​

Why not? I would be funny to watch...

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But most Democrats are fine with the DNC cheating. They are fine with cheating Gabbard out of the debate. They were fine with the DNC cheating to put Bloomberg in the debates. The only rule in the Democratic Primary is the DNC party bosses picks the nominee.

The purpose of the anti-Democratic Party, anti-liberal socialist and racial segregationist tele-evangelist Bernie Sanders is to destroy the Democratic Party to convert it to the International Socialist Workers Party. Yes, it will be fun watching Sander's supporters causing Trump to when the election AGAIN.

Hopefully, Sanders will cause a Republican president to again be elected in 2024. That would be fun to watch too.

 

[Craig234]

I like Bernie too. I always have. But, I don't think he's being cheated this year. I think he's mostly blown it himself, with comments like the one about Cuba, and not pushing harder for the black vote. His supporters not turning out to vote in primaries doesn't help, nor his unfortunate recent heart attack.

Hopefully, he will endorse Biden. I'm not a big Biden fan, but I will vote for him. I hope he will pick an good popular younger candidate to run for Vice-president with him. He's so old, we may need a good VP.

Sigh. The good news: I agree I don't see Bernie being cheated, other than the larger issues like big money in politics (Bernie would be walking away with the election without corrupt money like Biden's more than 60 billionaire donors) and corporate media bias.

BERNIE SAID NOTHING WRONG ABOUT CUBA. IT'S AN IDIOTIC ISSUE.

BERNIE PUSHED EXTREMELY HARD FOR THE BLACK VOTE, AND DID BETTER THAN ANYONE BUT THE GUY WHO TOUCHED OBAMA.

You're right to blame voters who did not turn out. Bernie's heart attack did not hurt his campaign. He's ALREADY endorsed Biden if nominated.

 

[danielpalos]

To repeat, you just don't understand that Biden works for big donors and Bernie works for the working class, and they're no more going to run together than Coke and Pepsi are going to release a drink together. They'll both say soda is great, but they're not joining.

They are both on the left and merely need a working majority. Healthcare reform and infrastructure are more of a priority for the left. Sanders as VP would be well positioned as point person for that and President of the Senate. He has a federal health service and a corps of engineers to work with.

 

[Bullseye]

Vote for Bernie

 

[Michael Cole]

To repeat, you just don't understand that Biden works for big donors and Bernie works for the working class, and they're no more going to run together than Coke and Pepsi are going to release a drink together. They'll both say soda is great, but they're not joining.

Biden trashed Sanders on ST without money.

You just don't understand people.

 

[Exquisitor]

It's going to be Trump regardless.

But I see Democrats are already looking for a scapegoat when they lose again.

Odd, because Democrats REALLY want Trump to win; I guess they just love the attention.

:shrug:

Trump regardless and no way Trump.

 

[Craig234]

Sanders as VP

I wasted my time

 

[Kurmugeon]

Obama's not running. Pay attention.

No... he's not running, he just squats in the background running a large sector of the Deep-State with his Shadow Government.

But his alliance with the Hillary Faction of the D/S is a bit shaky now... and allot of working Blacks are starting to see just how much the Democrats have been using and abusing them for decades.

The Democrat's Coalition is in an internal party civil-war, and looks more like a dropped ceramic coffee cup which as been hastily super-glued together, with a number of pieces gone, than a coherent political party.

Attempt to drink anything HOT from it, like a General Election Debate with Trump, and you're going to get scalded.

But then, that's where Identity Politics ALWAYS ends...

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[3leftsdoo]

trump won in 2016 because his opponent was Hillary Clinton. As for 2020, that depends on who the democrats nominate. I also doubt Trump can pull off the trifecta of Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin again. He couldn't if the election was today. He'd win Wisconsin, but lose Pennsylvania and Michigan. 2016 was a very unique year, election. I don't expect this one to come close to that uniqueness.

Far as I'm concerned, 2020 is too close to call.

In part. Not really; even MObama can't win it for them. We'll see. Perhaps. Possibly. Yes. More landslidey to be sure.

We can agree to diasgree.

 

[Perotista]

In part. Not really; even MObama can't win it for them. We'll see. Perhaps. Possibly. Yes. More landslidey to be sure.

We can agree to diasgree.

Not a problem. I don't see a landslide in the numbers or data available today. What I see is a fairly close election with the advantage to the Democrats. Depending on who is their nominee. Of course this far out in 2016, I swore Trump was the wrong candidate to beat Hillary Clinton. I'd resigned myself to four years of a Hillary president.

But following the numbers, I saw a very interesting trend beginning the last couple of weeks of October that others failed to see or maybe just didn't want to see. Folks in Johnson's column moving into Trump's. The tightening of races in the three deciding states where the final poll in Pennsylvania had Trump winning there by a point, had him tied in Michigan. Wisconsin hadn't been polled since the 23rd of October which made that poll useless.

What the numbers can tell you or give you a good idea is what would happen if the election was today. They also provide trends which need to be watched as they could help predict the future. The trends they show are much more important than just the numbers they provide. In my opinion anyway.

 

[Kurmugeon]

Any way you look at it, the Democrats are very fractured political party, who hope cannot win, without massive fraud voting...

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[3leftsdoo]

Not a problem. I don't see a landslide in the numbers or data available today. What I see is a fairly close election with the advantage to the Democrats. Depending on who is their nominee. Of course this far out in 2016, I swore Trump was the wrong candidate to beat Hillary Clinton. I'd resigned myself to four years of a Hillary president.

But following the numbers, I saw a very interesting trend beginning the last couple of weeks of October that others failed to see or maybe just didn't want to see. Folks in Johnson's column moving into Trump's. The tightening of races in the three deciding states where the final poll in Pennsylvania had Trump winning there by a point, had him tied in Michigan. Wisconsin hadn't been polled since the 23rd of October which made that poll useless.

What the numbers can tell you or give you a good idea is what would happen if the election was today. They also provide trends which need to be watched as they could help predict the future. The trends they show are much more important than just the numbers they provide. In my opinion anyway.

Some good points.

I too thought that Hillary - awful as she is - was likely to win.

But Trumpcumbency will carry the day this November.

 

[Perotista]

Some good points.

I too thought that Hillary - awful as she is - was likely to win.

But Trumpcumbency will carry the day this November.

It's very possible. We'll know more when the Democrats settle on a candidate. Here's some battleground states to show what I mean.

Arizona, Biden leading Trump, Trump leading Sanders
Florida, Biden tied with Trump, Trump leading Sanders
Iowa Trump leading both Biden and Sanders
Michigan Both Biden and Sanders leading Trump
Minnesota Both Biden and Sanders leading Trump
Nevada Both Biden and Sanders leading Trump
New Hampshire Trump leading both Biden and Sanders
North Carolina Biden leading Trump, Trump leading Sanders
Ohio Biden leading Trump, Trump leading Sanders
Pennsylvania Both Biden and Sanders leading Trump
Wisconsin Trump leading both Biden and Sanders

This is as of today, a lot can change in the coming weeks. But just looking at the numbers, I think Trump would beat Sanders, but have a much tougher time against Biden. But the general election campaign hasn't begun yet. Once that kicks off, there will be huge changes, one can bet the farm on that. These things aren't static, they dynamic as all get out.

 

[Kurmugeon]

But most Democrats are fine with the DNC cheating. They are fine with cheating Gabbard out of the debate. They were fine with the DNC cheating to put Bloomberg in the debates. The only rule in the Democratic Primary is the DNC party bosses picks the nominee.

The purpose of the anti-Democratic Party, anti-liberal socialist and racial segregationist tele-evangelist Bernie Sanders is to destroy the Democratic Party to convert it to the International Socialist Workers Party. Yes, it will be fun watching Sander's supporters causing Trump to when the election AGAIN.

Hopefully, Sanders will cause a Republican president to again be elected in 2024. That would be fun to watch too.

We-the-People, struggling to eliminate the cancer of the Identity Politics of the Post-Obama-Democrats, can only hope...

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[Integrityrespec]

Both Biden and Sanders have a clear path to the White House. In head to head polling they both beat Trump, though Biden wins by a wider margin.

After the disaster of the 2016 election polling and predictions why would democrats believe the same polling results? Who are you trying to convince? Yourselves.

 

[Kurmugeon]

I think that should Bernie lose, even at the hands of the DNC push to get him out, that he's going to endorse Biden. I don't think he has any wish to see Trump win the general election.

I think you underestimate the virulence of Collectivist-HATE!

Yeah, they HATE Trump, and they enjoy having Trump around to stir up HATRED. It gives them power.

But there is none they HATE more than those who gain Political-Power they thought was their due... Just ask Justice Clarence Thomas, and Justice Brett Kavanaugh!

Driven by HATRED, I don't think we can expect rational behavior from Sanders.

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