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If Only There Were a Viral Video of Our Jim Crow Education System

Rogue Valley

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5/21/21
We in the commentariat have leapt at covering police violence against Black citizens since George Floyd’s murder a year ago, but even if Floyd hadn’t been murdered, he still very likely would have died prematurely because of his race. There would have been no headlines, no protests, no speeches. But the average Black man in America lives about five fewer years than the average white man. A newborn Black boy in Washington, D.C., has a shorter life expectancy than a newborn boy in India. Since Floyd’s death, we’ve focused on racial inequities in the criminal justice system, and it has been easy for liberal white Americans — my tribe — to feel indignant and righteous while blaming others. But in some areas, such as an unjust education system, we are part of the problem. More broadly, we in the United States embrace a public education system based on local financing that ensures that poor kids go to poor schools and rich kids to rich schools. So anyone who can afford a typical home in Palo Alto, Calif., costing $3.2 million, can then send children to superb schools. And less than 2 percent of Palo Alto’s population is Black. Rucker Johnson, a professor of public policy at the University of California, Berkeley, has found that since 1988, American public schools have become more racially segregated.

Educated white Americans are now repulsed at the thought of systems of separate and unequal drinking fountains for Black Americans but seem comfortable with a Jim Crow financing system resulting in unequal schools for Black children — even though schools are far more consequential than water fountains. Similarly, we accept that elite universities offer legacy preferences that amount to affirmative action for highly privileged children, with bonus consideration for big donors (Lori Loughlin et. al.). If the 1973 Brown v. Board of Education case had went the other way, if a single justice had switched, America's schools would today be a fairer and more equitable system. Back in the early 2000s, white Americans sometimes said in polls that antiwhite bias was a bigger problem than anti-Black bias. That was delusional, and the tumult following the Floyd case increased the share of whites who acknowledge that discrimination persists. So the Floyd case may represent a milestone of progress in criminal justice. Now can America leverage this recognition of unfairness and inequity into other spheres, such as our still segregated education system?


Systemic racism is just as real in our education system as it is in housing and policing. This also needs to change.
 
Systemic racism is just as real in our education system as it is in housing and policing. This also needs to change.
Oh, for goodness' sake!

Our schools are great. It's the bad students who vandalize or beat up other students (and teachers) and that are absent or tardy that are the problem.

Our housing is great. It is the folks who destroy housing developments with wild parties, vandalism, robberies, and dangerous dogs that are the problem.

Our cops are mostly reluctant to deal with certain folks. It is usually those folks that are defiant and downright violent that are responsible for what happens to them.

The Silent Majority knows the brutal truth.
 




Systemic racism is just as real in our education system as it is in housing and policing. This also needs to change.
So full of BS. Racism hasn't got a thing to do with genetics or lifestyle. Those are the leading factors of life expectancy. Liberals love to cry wolf about everything. You must have a lot of pent up guilt. I don't have that problem.
 
From your article:

In 1973, the Supreme Court came a whisker from overturning this system of unequal school funding, in the case of Rodriguez v. San Antonio Independent School District. Lower courts had ruled that profoundly unequal school funding violated the Constitution, but by a 5-to-4 vote the justices disagreed.

This was the Brown v. Board of Education case that went the other way. If a single justice had switched, America would today be a fairer and more equitable nation.
With 20/20 hindsight, we can see what should have been. What is most appalling is the current Supreme Court who saw what should have been, but struck it down anyway in Shelby County, pretending what was directly in front of them wasn't there.
 
The NY Times talking about racism? How cute. And hypocritical.
 




Systemic racism is just as real in our education system as it is in housing and policing. This also needs to change.
The Education books will be re-written, because young people want to know "full spectrum of truths"... not the twisted promotions that were crafted into the education systems by the efforts and acts of The Daughter of The Confederacy. (People should read this article)
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The book banning effort built on the earlier work pioneered by Daughters like Mrs. Helen De Berniere Wills, the longtime chair of the North Carolina Division's textbook committee. De Berniere Wills had pushed local her local UDC chapters to aggressively engage their local schools systems and promote the books they liked and fight those they didn't.
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Most people did not know the overwhelming influences that The Daughter of The Confederacy had in bastardizing the books placed in the public school system, and these books were not confined to the Southern States, they were spread and used all across America.
 
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Systemic racism is just as real in our education system as it is in housing and policing. This also needs to change.

How do you propose the Education System be changed to effect the change you which you allude?

Since the Civil Rights Act of 1964, those who claim to understand the problem and claim to know the remedies have been working to make the changes needed to eliminate the problems they cite.

Any prediction on when the failed ideas and the wasted money might start having a positive impact revealed by good results.

So far, EVERYTHING suggested by those who are now advancing the latest load of crap has failed.

What is different about the latest load of crap that you feel makes it less useless than the previous ones?
 
How do you propose the Education System be changed to effect the change you which you allude?

Since the Civil Rights Act of 1964, those who claim to understand the problem and claim to know the remedies have been working to make the changes needed to eliminate the problems they cite.

Any prediction on when the failed ideas and the wasted money might start having a positive impact revealed by good results.

So far, EVERYTHING suggested by those who are now advancing the latest load of crap has failed.

What is different about the latest load of crap that you feel makes it less useless than the previous ones?
There is no wasted money, there is steps and stages that always exist in progress, and those steps and stages have a cost, that cost is worth the investment to move through the steps and stages to advance.

After the COVID has shown that material can be presented via "digital platform". We can be assured that Text Material can Merge with Video Material and Interactive Formats... which means in a classroom setting. Students can get more "in-depth information" than every before, and do so in real time interactivity.
The comprehension level of young people is amazingly high. They can recite rap lyrics with all its nuisances and know exactly what it means, they can and do play with video games, and know how to navigate it, while dealing with the compound of multiple things happening at the same time.
they actually enjoy seeking out information and they enjoy sharing it, which means they are better equipped and have created a means where their retention level is far higher than before, because they can inter-relate info and get collateral supporting info at the click of computer mouse.

In a few years we ill have smart boards in all class rooms, and with the digital systems, they can link their laptops via wifi and do many things to interactively engage.

As to Civil Rights of 1964, it has and continue to help people, black, white, and brown, male and female... many people try to ignore the benefit that all these races and ethnicities gained by and through and from the passage of the Civil Rights Act... simply because as things change, people take it for granted when things are advanced and become common in improvements, until people fail to connect the dots to see how and what propelled the improvements.
 
There is no wasted money, there is steps and stages that always exist in progress, and those steps and stages have a cost, that cost is worth the investment to move through the steps and stages to advance.

After the COVID has shown that material can be presented via "digital platform". We can be assured that Text Material can Merge with Video Material and Interactive Formats... which means in a classroom setting. Students can get more "in-depth information" than every before, and do so in real time interactivity.
The comprehension level of young people is amazingly high. They can recite rap lyrics with all its nuisances and know exactly what it means, they can and do play with video games, and know how to navigate it, while dealing with the compound of multiple things happening at the same time.
they actually enjoy seeking out information and they enjoy sharing it, which means they are better equipped and have created a means where their retention level is far higher than before, because they can inter-relate info and get collateral supporting info at the click of computer mouse.

In a few years we ill have smart boards in all class rooms, and with the digital systems, they can link their laptops via wifi and do many things to interactively engage.

As to Civil Rights of 1964, it has and continue to help people, black, white, and brown, male and female... many people try to ignore the benefit that all these races and ethnicities gained by and through and from the passage of the Civil Rights Act... simply because as things change, people take it for granted when things are advanced and become common in improvements, until people fail to connect the dots to see how and what propelled the improvements.

Your observations are not programs.

Google the phrase "why are blacks still underperforming in schools?" and you get plenty of hits offering excuses why they under perform.

Google the phrase "why are asians still underperforming in schools?" and you get plenty of hits offering examples of why Asians over perform and why hard work and good study habits pay off.

There is an answer in this that is being ignored.
 
How do you propose the Education System be changed to effect the change you which you allude?

Though the question was not directed at me, if I may offer an observation:

If the argument is that, regardless of whether or not they are explicitly biased, groups that currently hold political power will inevitably wield that political power to benefit themselves through the State.

Perhaps it is time to take away from them the ability to steer a child's educational choices.
 
Your observations are not programs.

Google the phrase "why are blacks still underperforming in schools?" and you get plenty of hits offering excuses why they under perform.

Google the phrase "why are asians still underperforming in schools?" and you get plenty of hits offering examples of why Asians over perform and why hard work and good study habits pay off.

There is an answer in this that is being ignored.
There is a big question your are Ignoring: Why don't you try Googling, why are Poor Whites Underperforming in School? You ignore the high drop out rate and the under-educated, mis-educated and uneducated among white society. You are always, hung up on trying to push your focus on blacks, but you ignore what you should give attention unto.
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Most of my friends kids are in various Professions and they actually work in the Profession of their Degree...as does my Grandkids... can you say the same?
 
Though the question was not directed at me, if I may offer an observation:

If the argument is that, regardless of whether or not they are explicitly biased, groups that currently hold political power will inevitably wield that political power to benefit themselves through the State.

Perhaps it is time to take away from them the ability to steer a child's educational choices.

I agree 100%.

The powers that be have demonstrated their incompetence and unwillingness to improve.

It's past time to throw the baggage out. Vouchers and school choice.
 
There is a big question your are Ignoring: Why don't you try Googling, why are Poor Whites Underperforming in School? You ignore the high drop out rate and the under-educated, mis-educated and uneducated among white society. You are always, hung up on trying to push your focus on blacks, but you ignore what you should give attention unto.
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Most of my friends kids are in various Professions and they actually work in the Profession of their Degree...as does my Grandkids... can you say the same?

Um... Name of the Thread includes the words "Jim Crow". Not my idea to include those word and that pretty much points away from any demographic but "Black".

That said, though, I think our public education system is criminally mismanaged and pathetically committed to indoctrination and mind control before education. All demographics are victimized by the shortfalls.

The funding for Public Schools keeps rising and the outcomes remain stagnant as compared to other countries that spend less and get more.

We need to convert 100% to a voucher system allowing parents to choose the best educational option for their children.

The cost to educate EVERY STUDENT WHO ATTENDS PUBLIC SCHOOL is greater than the cost to send kids to private and parochial schools on average.

If no "foreign car" had ever driven on a US Highway, our cars would be 30 feet long, weigh 6000 pounds and get 10 miles per gallon.

Competition creates Quality.

Great Competition creates Great Quality.

 
The funding for Public Schools keeps rising and the outcomes remain stagnant as compared to other countries that spend less and get more.

We need to convert 100% to a voucher system allowing parents to choose the best educational option for their children.
At the least, we need to free up federal funds to states so that they can be used in support of this, and let the states experiment so we can see what works and what doesn't.
 
At the least, we need to free up federal funds to states so that they can be used in support of this, and let the states experiment so we can see what works and what doesn't.

That is the basis of Federalism. Using Federal Dollars seems oddly unneeded, but so be it.

The use of and the following dependence on Federal Monies creates 50 drones all committing the same mistake instead of 50 experiments all competing to see who finds the best approach.

The 50 Drone approach has been used for the last 50 or so years as the US Academic Achievement has dropped from number 1 to the mid 20's overall the mid 30's in the STEM subjects.

When the problems occur only when a particular person is there, the problem is with personnel.

When the problem persists even after the people are changed, the system is where the problem is.

It's time to improve the system. Vouchers would be an effective way to do it. The people in the defective system may be wise and competent. Placing them in a competitive situation is the way to find out.
 
That is the basis of Federalism. Using Federal Dollars seems oddly unneeded, but so be it.

The use of and the following dependence on Federal Monies creates 50 drones all committing the same mistake instead of 50 experiments all competing to see who finds the best approach.

The 50 Drone approach has been used for the last 50 or so years as the US Academic Achievement has dropped from number 1 to the mid 20's overall the mid 30's in the STEM subjects.

When the problems occur only when a particular person is there, the problem is with personnel.

When the problem persists even after the people are changed, the system is where the problem is.

It's time to improve the system. Vouchers would be an effective way to do it. The people in the defective system may be wise and competent. Placing them in a competitive situation is the way to find out.
I'm a big fan of educational choice (we homeschool); but, am also generally aware of government's ability to make things worse by trying to make them better. Making the transition a deliberate process with lots of trial and error and feedback and adjustment seems wise.
 
I'm a big fan of educational choice (we homeschool); but, am also generally aware of government's ability to make things worse by trying to make them better. Making the transition a deliberate process with lots of trial and error and feedback and adjustment seems wise.

Home schooling is a choice many in my neighborhood have chosen.

My old next door neighbors were involved in a cooperative effort involving about 20 kids of similar ages (maybe 5 years apart) with guidance from an educational professional.

I was surprised by how organized it was. I was impressed by how smart and courteous the kids were. If I had kids of school age today, I'd be searching for options to the public schools.

You have my admiration and respect for your efforts!
 
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