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If one is forced to live in a situation, is advocating for a different situation a sign of hypocrisy?

If one is forced to live in a situation, is advocating for a different situation a sign of hypocrisy


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The conditions that one makes choices in is a huge factor I think.
always - in my case, my ex stayed with me because I provided her a home, money, I supported her etc. The cost of her years of planning to leave me was my life and time
that was a robbery of something I can never get back

In my view, if someone is being abused to the point that their self confidence is shattered, then that's far less hypocritical (if hypocritical at all) than someone who has full self actualization and the associated resources are their disposal and they make a pure moral and unconstrained choice.

you're not wrong - there are many levels of leaving and decisions/choices have exceptional variances of difficulty

and in the end ... its STILL choices and decisions made though

the day I gave my wife divorce papers was the hardest day of my life by far but I had to make it
 
Who in America is forced to live in a particular situation?

People visit political blogs and bitch about how our government operates to oppress certain groups of people.
I maintain our government represents one of the freest societies in the entire world.
  • People can remain in an unhappy marriage or not.
  • People who want to advance in their workplace organizations can stay and bitch upon their jobs or choose to leave and find a better job.
  • People who complain about crime in their cities but stay there believing they are "forced" to live their are hypocrites because they know they have the freedom to leave those cities and move to more peaceful and stable community.
Granted, there are many perceived barriers to leaving an unhappy or unhealthy life environment. But no one is expressly forbidden to separate themselves from such a situation.
Well, maybe if you're in a prison for committing a serious crime or maybe you decided to attack and ICE agent because you don't like how the government is removing illegal aliens from your community.
 
always - in my case, my ex stayed with me because I provided her a home, money, I supported her etc. The cost of her years of planning to leave me was my life and time
that was a robbery of something I can never get back



you're not wrong - there are many levels of leaving and decisions/choices have exceptional variances of difficulty

and in the end ... its STILL choices and decisions made though

the day I gave my wife divorce papers was the hardest day of my life by far but I had to make it
Right but the role and moral implication of choice goes down as constraint go up. If I am starving and am too weak to help catch the purse snatcher who runs by, that’s much more excusable then someone who fails to do so when they are fully healthy.
 
It is as if some are advocating for a level of division even more than we already experience in this nation.
 
Here are some examples:

- One may prefer to live a purely libertarian or communist lifestyle, but nowhere on earth is that available so they make the best of their present situation. Are they a hypocrite for living in a different type of economy?

- One may be in an unhappy marriage or job and prefer to live a different lifestyle, but are prevented from changing it due to cultural expectations, kids, or other things. Are they a hypocrite for staying in that marriage?

- One may prefer the policies or a red or blue area but live in the alternative due to job availability or family needs. Are they a hypocrite for not moving?
One can dream about what want wants or prefers, hope for that. But one must live and adjust to what is. Make the best of whatever situation one is in. There’s no hypocrisy in wanting something different than what is.
 
Right but the role and moral implication of choice goes down as constraint go up. If I am starving and am too weak to help catch the purse snatcher who runs by, that’s much more excusable then someone who fails to do so when they are fully healthy.

that's a very simplistic and narrow view though ... maybe the starving person is there because of a life of choices in alcohol/drug abuse that directly led them to being weak ... and maybe the fully healthy person is taking care of a dying parent, just had a newborn that's in ICU and has trouble finding a job to support it all and doesn't want to get involved with a purse snatcher because of all that

so many layers of what makes people who they are - and almost always choices/decisions are included that shape/mold lives
 
that's a very simplistic and narrow view though ... maybe the starving person is there because of a life of choices in alcohol/drug abuse that directly led them to being weak ... and maybe the fully healthy person is taking care of a dying parent, just had a newborn that's in ICU and has trouble finding a job to support it all and doesn't want to get involved with a purse snatcher because of all that
Those would also be examples of the kinds of constraints I was referring to.
so many layers of what makes people who they are - and almost always choices/decisions are included that shape/mold lives
Yet trying to understand that is the essence of compassion, which morality is based on and why Jesus came.
 
Those would also be examples of the kinds of constraints I was referring to.
and almost all based on choices/decisions

Yet trying to understand that is the essence of compassion, which morality is based on and why Jesus came.
there is compassion, sympathy ... then there is also empathy

Jesus had no problem telling people they were wrong and needing to change
 
and almost all based on choices/decisions


there is compassion, sympathy ... then there is also empathy

Jesus had no problem telling people they were wrong and needing to change
True.
 
Hypocrisy is when you argue that the rules are different for you (or a preferred In-Group/member) than for others.

In this case, for example, if you argued that System A is better for people while living in System B, you are not a hypocrite.

If, however, you argued that System A was better for people while living in System A and having the option to switch to System B but choosing not to because it was better for you to stay with System A.... just, you know, other people need to be forced into System B.....

at that point, some hypocrisy does indeed exist.

For example:
It's a pandemic and no one should go to restaurants. I will stay in my house and cook or order door dash. Not Hypocritical.
It's a pandemic and no one should go to restaurants, except it's fine when I do it, because there are relatively few of us. Hypocritical.​



The common " 'I Hate Capitalism' he typed into his macbook while sitting at starbucks" trope is funny, but mostly funny because the person typing this line is massively benefiting from Capitalism in visible ways. They are self-unaware. It's like when Chelsea Clinton told people they should stop worrying about money, because she doesn't worry about it. They only become hypocrites when they have opportunities to go live in Socialism, and choose not to, because, like, you know, like, the pay is better, like, over here? And, like, you just, like, cannot find decent restaurants and craft beer over there, for some utterly unknowable reason. Probably the capitalists are stealing them all so that folks don't know how socialism is... for you, you understand. It should be imposed on you. Me, like, you know, like, sure, and whatever, but, like, my vibe right now still has me here, so (raises fist) In The Fight, you know, just, like, not really good, like, timing, right now...
 
Those would also be examples of the kinds of constraints I was referring to.

Yet trying to understand that is the essence of compassion, which morality is based on and why Jesus came.

Compassion is a (powerful) expression of morality, but that is not the extent or the basis of it. There are several other moral values that can be combined with compassion, but which exist independent of it.
 
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