well that would depend on what the proven facts are-if there was fraud that is proven, perhaps.
Was there fraud in 2020? Should Arizona have overturned the popular vote? How about PA & GA?
I don't have facts sufficient to answer in any case. I don't recall claiming there was fraud
Proven has become a very flexible term. If every court at every level has found no fraud and every legislature in the country has certified that the election was bona fide, what would proof of fraud look like? Sworn affidavits and witness testimony? Would those things constitute proof?
A majority of your party does. And, no. There is no evidence of fraud. You should have been more honest in answering my question.
do you remember the late Great Potter Stewart from my home town of Cincinnati-a supreme court justice. When asked about pornography he said something to the effect of "I cannot define it but I know it when I see it"
You telling someone to honestly answer a question is hilarious and your question was a hypothetical-go back and read it again
Get back to us when this because more than a Left Wing terror story.
So the definition of election fraud is as subjective as the definition of pornography? No, you don't really mean that.
He does, trust me.
That was about something subjective, not quantifiable.
hard to say, some fraud works so that it is hard to discover
Election fraud. What would proof of election fraud look like? Would witness testimony be enough?
perhaps, witness testimony has been used for all sorts of convictions in criminal cases,. again, there are so many different possible factual scenarios that it is speculative.,
Are you saying that the claims of fraud have not been investigated? There sure have been plenty of claims...and plenty of oversite into them. If you're really a lawyer, I'm sure I dont need to explain why not all affidavits and 'evidence' meet the qualifications and appropriateness of actual evidentiary proof and worthy of judicial consideration, right?
you want me to speculate on speculative hypotheticals and then complain? here's the deal-if VOTE FRAUD IS PROVEN then yes, a legislature has a the proper power to overturn the election. period., play with that all you want but this appears nothing more than yet another thread whining about the GOP at the last election
No I dont. I think you just made my point. You wrote: hard to say, some fraud works so that it is hard to discover," so that you dont have to commit to believing there was fraud, you wrote you didnt have the facts...and so you believe it only because you want to. It's purely speculative for you.
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Speculative. Different possible factual scenarios.
No I dont. I think you just made my point. You wrote: hard to say, some fraud works so that it is hard to discover," so that you dont have to commit to believing there was fraud, you wrote you didnt have the facts...and so you believe it only because you want to. It's purely speculative for you.
And yes IMO you do believe the election was stolen.
so we are worried that GOP legislatures in the future (certainly they are past the point of overturning senile Joe's election) overturn elections but we don't know if there was fraud or nor? Or are the TDS posters trying to whine about the GOP once again?
I called him out on that many times after Jan and he completely refused to answer, period.
speaking of lying. the OP is a hypothetical situation and I answered it consistent with what it is. I realize you dislike the fact that I don't answer stupid questions the way you want but your lies about me are idiotic
and you have lied yet again-I never said the election was stolen. The closest I came is noting that what the dems did in some states is equivalent to athletes who use "masking agents". Look it up