If I were the devil...

[Omega Man]

The USA was discovered by the Vikings - clearly a lot of them.

Unfortunately, out of "millions of warriors" in the America's during the Iron Age, not a single chariot has ever been unearthed.


OM

 

[Daisy]

We agree, the "gift of tongues" is false.


OM

But it did have a distinct purpose with the apostles...there was nothing false about it then...

 

[JustHanging]

Not at all. I've given you proof. You have the challenge of accepting a testimony as proof. That's not a problem with me, just you.

Well sure. I could offer testimony as proof that Santa Claus is real. I suspect you wouldn't believe me?

 

[zyzygy]

Well sure. I could offer testimony as proof that Santa Claus is real. I suspect you wouldn't believe me?

When will he offer the testimony that shows that Lord Krishna is not real?

 

[Rich2018]

Unfortunately, out of "millions of warriors" in the America's during the Iron Age, not a single chariot has ever been unearthed.


OM

We know a few Vikings made it to Nova Scotia - and they may have sailed further.

But to the best of our knowledge no Norseman or Roman ever settled in what is now the USA.

 

[Omega Man]

We know a few Vikings made it to Nova Scotia - and they may have sailed further.

But to the best of our knowledge no Norseman or Roman ever settled in what is now the USA.

Nor any "chariots". And horses had been long-since extinct in the America's, and wouldn't be introduced again (by the Spanish) until the 1500's; and yet the Mormon ideology insists there were horses in the America's when there weren't any at all.

Fraud alert!


OM

 

[RAMOSS]

Nor any "chariots". And horses had been long-since extinct in the America's, and wouldn't be introduced again (by the Spanish) until the 1500's; and yet the Mormon ideology insists there were horses in the America's when there weren't any at all.

Fraud alert!


OM

Anytime you see deflection and excuses about WHY there isn't evidence that should be there, the more likely there is a huge fraud.

 

[Rich2018]

Nor any "chariots". And horses had been long-since extinct in the America's, and wouldn't be introduced again (by the Spanish) until the 1500's; and yet the Mormon ideology insists there were horses in the America's when there weren't any at all.

Fraud alert!


OM

You can stretch your imagination the horse and chariots wouldn't fit in Norse longships. But if the settled here, evidence would be left behind.

 

[Omega Man]

Anytime you see deflection and excuses about WHY there isn't evidence that should be there, the more likely there is a huge fraud.

I guess understanding the basic history of fauna in the America's would have been too much to expect from a 19th century unlettered huckster.


OM

 

[Rich2018]

Anytime you see deflection and excuses about WHY there isn't evidence that should be there, the more likely there is a huge fraud.

Which is why we can assume the biblical Exodus is false because of a lack of evidence of Israelite settlements in Egypt despite claim that the Egyptians would wipe out their memory down to digging up graves.

 

[Omega Man]

Which is why we can assume the biblical Exodus is false because of a lack of evidence of Israelite settlements in Egypt despite claim that the Egyptians would wipe out their memory down to digging up graves.

Nor any archeological evidence whatsoever that hundreds of thousands (if not millions) wandered aimlessly
for 40 years in a plot of desert the size of Rhode Island; not to mention a complete lack of evidence that an influx of that many suddenly converged into Canaan. Makes for a nice myth though when the need arises to unify your culture in the face of probable assimilation.


OM

 

[Rich2018]

Nor any archeological evidence whatsoever that hundreds of thousands (if not millions) wandered aimlessly
for 40 years in a plot of desert the size of Rhode Island; not to mention a complete lack of evidence that an influx of that many suddenly converged into Canaan. Makes for a nice myth though when the need arises to unify your culture in the face of probable assimilation.


OM

Ben-Gurion called Exodus the Title Deeds to Israel and boy did his religious archaeologists look for evidence...but found none.

 

[Omega Man]

Ben-Gurion called Exodus the Title Deeds to Israel and boy did his religious archaeologists look for evidence...but found none.

That's typically what happens when you scurry to try and build a ready-made uniform culture; one based upon the scattered remnants of a diverse culture whose own foggy history had become mired in legends and oral traditions of heroes of antiquity, many of which had been lost and/or misunderstood for half a millennium.


OM

 

[Rich2018]

That's typically what happens when you scurry to try and build a ready-made uniform culture; one based upon the scattered remnants of a diverse culture whose own foggy history had become mired in legends and oral traditions of heroes of antiquity, many of which had been lost and/or misunderstood for half a millennium.


OM

No-one's ever found the Garden of Eden either.....but curiously every expedition to find Noah's Ark has and there are about 40 Arks.

 

[Omega Man]

but curiously every expedition to find Noah's Ark has and there are about 40 Arks.

I'd be interested in reading about just one verified account, much less 40.


OM

 

[Cougarbear]

Well sure. I could offer testimony as proof that Santa Claus is real. I suspect you wouldn't believe me?

No, it's because you don't believe it.

 

[nota bene]

I'd be interested in reading about just one verified account, much less 40.


OM

What about one Shroud? Would you be interested in that?

 

[Cougarbear]

You were never an island, I assure you. We both experienced euphoria, and you have the right to refer to your euphoria - the chemicals racing thru your brain - in any terms you see fit.


OM

No sir. I felt it in my spirit body. Sorry you can't understand. What sin did you commit that turned you against Christ?

 

[RAMOSS]

What about one Shroud? Would you be interested in that?

YOu mean you actually take the 'shroud seriously, even though it has been proven to be a 14th century fake?

 

[nota bene]

YOu mean you actually take the 'shroud seriously, even though it has been proven to be a 14th century fake?

I can't imagine how you've extracted an opinion from a question. :roll:

 

[RAMOSS]

I can't imagine how you've extracted an opinion from a question. :roll:

Very simple. There is only one 'shroud that currently has a cult level following about it's authenticity. ... and that is the shroud of Turin. The way you phrased about 'accepting it' showed you accept it. It's the only shroud that you have people claiming 'verified account '. And, it is conspiracy level pseudo science that has been very overwhelming proven to be 14th century, except to the cultists that push it.

 

[nota bene]

Very simple. There is only one 'shroud that currently has a cult level following about it's authenticity. ... and that is the shroud of Turin. The way you phrased about 'accepting it' showed you accept it. It's the only shroud that you have people claiming 'verified account '. And, it is conspiracy level pseudo science that has been very overwhelming proven to be 14th century, except to the cultists that push it.

What a dishonest dodge. :2wave:

 

[zyzygy]

No sir. I felt it in my spirit body. Sorry you can't understand. What sin did you commit that turned you against Christ?

Spirit body? The feeling was caused by your brain.

 

[zyzygy]

No, it's because you don't believe it.

Would you accept testimony from a child who believes that Santa Claus exists? The child's belief in Santa Claus is no different from your belief in a god. According to your logic, you would have to accept the child's testimony.

 

[RAMOSS]

What a dishonest dodge. :2wave:

Is it? Can you show any other shroud that has more focus and a cult like following that the Shroud of Turin?

It sounds like a dishonest dodge to deny it.