kaya'08
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I would try to respect other species and cultures, if for nothing else than the fact that meeting other intelligent life in the galaxy would be a rare and precious thing, but if it ever came down to a choice between them or us, I'd damn well pick us.
But think you could you could talk, discuss, debate, befriend them. They could adapt to your culture and you to theres. Would you say that for your race now?
I would try to respect other species and cultures, if for nothing else than the fact that meeting other intelligent life in the galaxy would be a rare and precious thing, but if it ever came down to a choice between them or us, I'd damn well pick us.
We're not the only race, even on Earth. Bottlenose dolphins, to cite just one example, are apparently fully sentient and have complex language capabilities - the only reason they lack technology is probably that they have limited anatomical ability to manipulate objects. Apes are also sentient, although their ability to communicate is more limited. There are more abstract arguments that organisms such as bees, ants, and cephalopods are intelligent, although this roams into more obscure domains of thinking that depend heavily on how flexible one's definitions are. I think they all have rights, but our ability to observe those rights is hampered by our own limitations as a species derived from evolutionary pressures. Nevertheless, in practice I tend toward Buddhist philosophy of universal benevolence toward life: I am a vegetarian, and will not kill bugs unless they are dangerous or invade in large numbers that might be a health hazard.
I find it unlikely we will ever run into alien intelligence. Not for lack of existence, mind you - I am virtually positive the universe is teeming with it, just as an extrapolation of the fact that the Earth is already swarming with it and it's only existed here for a few dozen millennia. But the timescales of evolution are so vast that, statistically speaking, species on the same technological level would be too far apart in space to have meaningful contact. If we ever did run into ETs, their civilization would be so old and large in scale that its actions would either look like natural phenomena or occur in regions so dense with activity we couldn't access them or discern what's going on - e.g., the interiors of stars, the plasma rings around black holes, etc. Nor would we run into archaeological relics, because space is simply too large and the timescales of relics that we could recognize would be relatively small.
And this mutual ignorance is probably a good thing: With few exceptions, the likelihood of contact with a civilization that found us comprehensible would be the destruction or subordination of one or the other. Even if both approached the relationship with benevolence, both are products of evolution and subject to behaviors that ultimately serve themselves at the expense of others.
Yes. And I suspect that if it truly came down to it so would you. We're not biologically wired to give up if the existence of our species is threatened. We wouldn't exist if we were.
My nation, yes. I dont care much for race. Maybe i'd feel the same even if Aliens where citizens of my national identity too?
Just FYI. Every life is programmed to survive. If you think another life form like that to the human race would be any different than we are. You are going to be surprised when that raace shows signs of racism, psychopathy, stupidity, etc.I'd become an honorary member of another species and never converse with human beings ever again. But I'd probably still advocate what I do for our species now, "stop killing each other". But I would probably harbor the same discontent for my own species, so no, I wouldn't be Human supremacist.
I'd become an honorary member of another species and never converse with human beings ever again.
Just FYI. Every life is programmed to survive. If you think another life form like that to the human race would be any different than we are. You are going to be surprised when that raace shows signs of racism, psychopathy, stupidity, etc.
There are even cases here on Earth of killer whales, killing other animals just for fun. And there have been cases of wolves doing the same thing to other animals. And what is more disturbing? There have been cases of Grizzly bears killing other grizzly bears. You know murder. We are not the only life form that is capable of exibiting feelings. Look at most other animals and they do show "primitive" emotions that we exibit.
I can deal with a new spin on old sh*t. But alien life is an entirely different matter, you can't really say what they'd be like, I'm not saying they'd be better, just different. They could have any entirely different form of sentience. Everything you said about animals on Earth I already new. Nature is extremely violent. But I think there's a big difference between human violence, and every other kind of violence under the sun. I think there is a plethora of adequately f*cked up human behavior that you will not find in any other species. There's just this special kind of stupid I can't stand about people. Maybe I just want to think humans are as bad as it gets as far as sapient life goes, probably not, but I'm sure there's better.
But my point was that it was probably not any better. If anything just the same crap that humans exhibit this other alien race would exhibit as well. So why?
What grounds do you have to state that alien life would at all think like humans?
What grounds do you have to state that alien life would at all think like humans?
Human supremacy already exists...we're at the top of this little thing called the food chain...
But we are the only sapien species on the planet, that makes it a different dynamic.
If there intelligent beings, wouldnt they have the ability to reason, learn, understand? Just like humans?
Because. Its simple biology. Greed and selfhishness are what best defines us. If you were to ever find an old alien race or that race comes to us. Why would it be any different from us?
My nation, yes. I dont care much for race. Maybe i'd feel the same even if Aliens where citizens of my national identity too?
Don't matter if they're from Mexico or Betelguese. An alien is an alien. We are better than them until my cousin marries one.
well if you want my personal opinion Cerberus can **** offIt's cool they bring dudes back to life though...
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