If Democrats hate gun violence so much, who don't they stop engaging in it?

[Gozaburo]

Which policies are you referring to?

Not relevant to the point I'm making.

 

[aociswundumho]

Blue and red states pass laws based on their citizens’ wishes — and those laws can have either positive or negative consequences.

It would be much more accurate if you went down the city level, but if you do that, democrats don't look so good.

 

[Gozaburo]

I dont know anyone who does that so Ill just chalk that accusation up to projection

There's at least one thread a day on here about some niche case of black on white crime. Get real dude.

Importing millions of the worlds poor was done intentionally the Biden administration. No one voted for that and reversing it is 100% called for.

You should be thanking Biden! It seems the majority of those pesky Hispanics vote for Trump. It turns out Catholics from the highly conservative global south are receptive to banana republic populism.

False and pretty dumb.

Who is the greatest intellectual Conservatism has spawned in the last 50 years? Tucker Carlson? Lmao give me a break, you're on a train going nowhere. I actually respect people like Carlson because he recognizes it's a dead movement, but is smart enough to grift off of the dumbasses willing to pay him for it.

 

[aociswundumho]

Not relevant to the point I'm making.

It's highly relevant. You wrote:

Whether you agree with them or not at least leftists attempt to solve black criminality through policy.

The phrase "black criminality" implies crime is inherent to being black, which is misleading and racially loaded. If you're going to make that claim, I'd like to hear exactly what leftist policies you think are aimed at solving it.

 

[Gozaburo]

The phrase "black criminality" implies crime is inherent to being black, which is misleading and racially loaded. If you're going to make that claim, I'd like to hear exactly what leftist policies you think are aimed at solving it.

That isn't what it implies at all. Like even remotely.

 

[aociswundumho]

Who is the greatest intellectual Conservatism has spawned in the last 50 years?

Thomas Sowell and Milton Friedman are two possibilities off the top of my head.

Who does the left have, Noam Chomsky? Cornell West?

 

[Gozaburo]

Thomas Sowell and Milton Friedman are two possibilities off the top of my head.

Thomas Sowell is retarded. Friedman has some interesting commentary on economics, but is otherwise retarded.

Who does the left have, Noam Chomsky? Cornell West?

Sartre, Foucault, Žižek, Derrida, Judith Butler.

I'll concede that the 21st century is devoid of intellectuals, period. We live in an era of total cultural death.

 

[Fletch]

There's at least one thread a day on here about some niche case of black on white crime. Get real dude.

Hmm. Never heard of anyone beating off to it though util you brought it up....

You should be thanking Biden! It seems the majority of those pesky Hispanics vote for Trump. It turns out Catholics from the highly conservative global south are receptive to banana republic populism.

I think you meant to say that those migrants are familiar with the destructive nature of socialism and reject it. In that regard they are smarter than the typical leftist.

Who is the greatest intellectual Conservatism has spawned in the last 50 years? Tucker Carlson? Lmao give me a break, you're on a train going nowhere. I actually respect people like Carlson because he recognizes it's a dead movement, but is smart enough to grift off of the dumbasses willing to pay him for it.

Lol. That 'dead movement' controls the presidency, the House, the Senate, the Supreme Court, a majority of state governors and I believe a majority of state houses. The real 'dead movement' is the leftist embrace of Marxism and now commies like Mamdani

 

[Fletch]

Thomas Sowell is retarded. Friedman has some interesting commentary on economics, but is otherwise retarded.

Surely you are smart enough to know that labeling such men as 'retarded' only destroys your credibility, not theirs.

 

[Gozaburo]

Hmm. Never heard of anyone beating off to it though util you brought it up....

It is a form of pornography.

I think you meant to say that those migrants are familiar with the destructive nature of socialism and reject it. In that regard they are smarter than the typical leftist.

So they elect more populists. Awesome.

Lol. That 'dead movement' controls the presidency, the House, the Senate, the Supreme Court, a majority of state governors and I believe a majority of state houses. The real 'dead movement' is the leftist embrace of Marxism and now commies like Mamdani

Merely having power doesn't mean that your movement is revolutionary. At the end of Trump - or maybe even Vances' tenure, almost nothing will of changed. The same problems will exist, but worse. The only difference will be the stratification of wealth, which will worsen. It's hardly surprising that a cultural luddite would think having "my guys" in the white house means shit for the layman.

Surely you are smart enough to know that labeling such men as 'retarded' only destroys your credibility, not theirs.

I'm calling them retarded because that's what they are. I will continue to call them retarded and my credibility will remain most intact, except for other retards that find kinship with someone as unremarkable and banal as Sowell.

 

[Fletch]

It is a form of pornography.

Whatever floats your boat dude

So they elect more populists. Awesome.

Better than anything the left is offering

Merely having power doesn't mean that your movement is revolutionary. At the end of Trump - or maybe even Vances' tenure, almost nothing will of changed. The same problems will exist, but worse. The only difference will be the stratification of wealth, which will worsen. It's hardly surprising that a cultural luddite would think having "my guys" in the white house means shit for the layman.

Who said it was 'revolutionary?' Conservatism by definition is not revolutionary. Its success will be measured in its ability to put down the Marxist revolution being shoved down our throats by the left.

I'm calling them retarded because that's what they are. I will continue to call them retarded and my credibility will remain most intact, except for other retards that find kinship with someone as unremarkable and banal as Sowell.

Fine. You have no credibility

 

[Gozaburo]

Who said it was 'revolutionary?' Conservatism by definition is not revolutionary. Its success will be measured in its ability to put down the Marxist revolution being shoved down our throats by the left.

Right wing politics can be progressive and revolutionary.

Fine. You have no credibility

With you

 

[Fletch]

Right wing politics can be progressive and revolutionary.



With you

They are objectively NOT retarded. So you insisting they are destroys your credibility. Not theirs and not mine. But if you dont care about your credibility, why should I

 

[Redress]

So you’re under the impression the location where a murder happens is the murderer not the person? Okie dokie buddy, that’s a new level of stupid.

And you are under the impression that a tiny fraction of 1 % means all people. That is an even higher level of stupid.

 

[Redress]

Care to break down the demographics? Yea, gang bangers in Memphis, Atlanta, Nashville etc. are Republicans.

LMAO

Gang bangers do not tend to be terribly political, but facts are not really something that the OP seems interested in.

 

[Redress]

Well now that you mention it, the facts do seem to back that up now dont they

That facts as sourced by the OP bring up that a tiny fraction of a percent of black people commit firearm homicides. So maybe it is not black people that are problematic. Sorry to rain on your parade.

 

[Integrityrespec]

Wrong.!!!

But then again, that’s like saying water is wet. Is MAGA ever factually correct about anything? I mean, for Christ’s sake, even a broken clock is right twice a day — you’d think you could at least be like a broken clock… but not even that.

Oh well!

Highest and Lowest Gun Death Rates by State (2025)​

• States with the highest gun death rates (per 100,000 people):
  • Mississippi: 29.6
  • Louisiana: 28.2
  • New Mexico: 27.3
  • Alabama: 25.5
  • Missouri: 24.2
  • Honarry mentions Montana, Alaska, Arkansas, Wyoming, Tennessee
• States with the lowest gun death rates (per 100,000 people):
  • Rhode Island: 3.1
  • Massachusetts: 3.7Connecticut
  • Hawaii: 4.5
  • New Jersey: 5.0
  • New York: 5.3
  • Honorary mentions Conneticuit, California
• Red state murder rateshave consistently been higher than blue state murder rates:
  • In 2022, the average murder rate in red states was 8.5 per 100,000 residents—33% higher than the blue state average of 6.4 per 100,000 residents.
  • In 2021 (peak year), red states averaged 9.0 per 100,000, blue states 6.8 per 100,000.
  • 8 out of 10 states with the highest murder rates voted Republican in recent presidential elections.
• Red States: Higher overall gun death rates and murder rates, more likely to have weaker gun laws and higher rates of gun ownership.
• Blue States: Lower gun death and murder rates, generally have stronger gun safety laws and lower gun ownership rates.

• The states with the most gun violence are generally those with the weakest and most lenient gun laws. For example, Mississippi, Louisiana, and Alabama all rank near the bottom for gun law strength, frequently receiving “F” grades from gun safety advocacy organizations. These states often have:
  • No or little background check requirements
  • Permitless open or concealed carry
  • Few restrictions on firearm purchases or ownership
  • Lower requirements for safety training and licensing
• The states with the least gun violence tend to have some of the strictest gun laws in the country. Massachusetts, New Jersey, California, New York, and others consistently receive “A” or “A-” grades for gun law strength. Their policies often include:
  • Universal background checks
  • Mandatory permitting for handgun purchases
  • Restriction/bans on assault weapons and high-capacity magazines
  • Waiting periods and extensive training requirements
  • Funding for community violence prevention and safe storage laws

You were saying blah blah blah...Liberla, gun something something, blah blah!

Diving Mullah

So the stats shown here say blacks are dispoportionally committing murders. You say Red state commit more than blue, but you didn't mention that list of blue states has a higher percentage of blacks that the list of blue state on the lower end of homicides. And, the number of murders taking place in red states is considerable higher in cities run by democrats and which have higher black populations. I think we all know why the left doesn't talk much about gun crimes, just gun control. The only outrage they show is when a high capacity weapon is used. Regular guns, in blue cities, by black shooters, not much outrage by democrats.

 

[Decypher]

Care to break down the demographics? Yea, gang bangers in Memphis, Atlanta, Nashville etc. are Republicans.

LMAO

You think inner city criminals are big into politics either way?

The OP by @tharock220 is predictably based on a false premise: that all black people vote for the Democratic Party so therefore every sin committed by a black person can be laid at the door of that party.