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Well then it is just self-indulgent whining for people to make an argument based ONLY on religion because it is useless....our laws are not based on religious beliefs.
If you cant support your position with the morality underlying your religious beliefs, you will not be able to actually "make a difference." It's just self-righteous venting.
It's not useless. It needn't be useless.
All those have been addressed in the topic I created. I'll stop pursuing that on this thread.