If Bernie Drops Out, is it Over?

[Jay59]

Yeah the pont is your post was totally exposed and you cant support it with anything logical factual or even credible and that point still stands LMAO When you can please let us know, thanks

What point was exposed? Trump actually is a good President--economy, jobs, energy independence, foreign policy, border security, promise keeping. Choose your area and Trump has done well.

My point still stands. That, you got right.

 

[RAMOSS]

I hope Bernie makes a full recovery and continues his political fight.

Biden and Sanders will provide some cover I believe for Warren up to the primary, and then she'll be the candidate.
Anti-corruption - go Warren. First woman president, and focused on the issue of the day.

I find it so facsinating that so many of the people who are ardent Trump supporters are telling the Democrats who is electable.

 

[Abbazorkzog]

I don't see anything stopping Bernie but Bernie once he gets back on the trail. If he sees Warren has it in the bag, he'll drop out to throw her into the lead, but as long as Biden is the front runner he isn't going anywhere.

 

[Surrealistik]

I find it hard to imagine a man Bernie's age carrying on after this. I imagine he'll drop out soon.

Nah he's fine; couple of stents. Once those are inserted, the recipient usually feels better and more energetic due to restored blood flow.

 

[Brochacholomigo]

Sometimes, a man who is not of the people, but who is for the people, emerges.

Those concerned with class war are not the answer.

I find it highly unlikely that the descendants of such a man will be as aligned with the people, and historically, that's a reasonable concern to have. There's little reason to assume the Kennedys are some kind of magical bloodline with an innate immunity to corruption and greed.

 

[Drawdown]

I don't see anything stopping Bernie but Bernie once he gets back on the trail. If he sees Warren has it in the bag, he'll drop out to throw her into the lead, but as long as Biden is the front runner he isn't going anywhere.

Why would we drop out when the first vote hasn't been cast yet?

 

[Gimmesometruth]

There's a political market for a "moderate" in the Democrat primary.

Not really, since Warren and Bernie combined have outpaced Joe for some time.

 

[RAMOSS]

Nah he's fine; couple of stents. Once those are inserted, the recipient usually feels better and more energetic due to restored blood flow.

The question is 'why did the arteries block in the first place'.

 

[Brochacholomigo]

There's a political market for a "moderate" in the Democrat primary. If the rest of the pack is too weak to take on Warren, Bloomberg or even Hillary Clinton could see an opening to jump in the race.

I'm not seeing it. The two most moderate guys, Hickenlooper and Delaney, were literally booed out of the primary, and less moderate moderates like Klobuchar and Buttigieg are basically dead on arrival. Biden's pretty moderate, but he's also running on name recognition and little else.

 

[Rexedgar]

The question is 'why did the arteries block in the first place'.

Heredity, diet, lifestyle. I had a single fifteen years ago, follow up procedure two weeks ago and all’s well. I was early 50’s for the first.

 

[OldFatGuy]

I find it highly unlikely that the descendants of such a man will be as aligned with the people, and historically, that's a reasonable concern to have. There's little reason to assume the Kennedys are some kind of magical bloodline with an innate immunity to corruption and greed.

No one is immune to corruption. Few were as corrupt as Joe Kennedy Sr.

He wasn't perfect, yet Ted did some good when he served. You never really know until after the fact.

Ruling someone out because you think the economic upper class is evil, is not acceptable.

 

[Surrealistik]

I'm not seeing it. The two most moderate guys, Hickenlooper and Delaney, were literally booed out of the primary, and less moderate moderates like Klobuchar and Buttigieg are basically dead on arrival. Biden's pretty moderate, but he's also running on name recognition and little else.

To be fair, Delaney had a great deal of help from Warren upon getting basically OHKOed by her during that night when she and Bernie basically tagteamed the centrist dogpile into oblivion.

 

[Jay59]

I'm not seeing it. The two most moderate guys, Hickenlooper and Delaney, were literally booed out of the primary, and less moderate moderates like Klobuchar and Buttigieg are basically dead on arrival. Biden's pretty moderate, but he's also running on name recognition and little else.

Buttigieg is still not completely dead. He's going to show well in Iowa. If he shows well enough, say beating Biden, he could get something moving.

Biden is also running on association with president Obama.

 

[Brochacholomigo]

No one is immune to corruption. Few were as corrupt as Joe Kennedy Sr.

He wasn't perfect, yet Ted did some good when he served. You never really know until after the fact.

Ruling someone out because you think the economic upper class is evil, is not acceptable.

I don't think that rich people are evil, I think that family dynasties who do nothing but play at politics are evil. Every reason we had for abolishing the system of royalty and nobility when this nation was founded applies to why we should oppose future generations of Bushes, Clintons and Kennedys.

 

[OldFatGuy]

Heredity, diet, lifestyle. I had a single fifteen years ago, follow up procedure two weeks ago and all’s well. I was early 50’s for the first.

Glad you are well. Been there are few times myself. While most flourish afterwards, and are friskier, a few don't do so well.

Generally, the older the patient, the greater the need to reduce stress subsequent to the procedure. The danger now, strokes. No doubt he's now taking a blood thinner, an alpha blocker, a few other goodies. His doctors are likely advising he scale back. In the weeks to come his doctors will be combing him with a fine brush, test after test, and then some more. No one lives forever.

 

[Brochacholomigo]

Buttigieg is still not completely dead. He's going to show well in Iowa. If he shows well enough, say beating Biden, he could get something moving.

Biden is also running on association with president Obama.

Buttigieg is every bit as dead as all of the other candidates who didn't start the race known by most of the country, and doing less terribly in the polls than the other nobodies isn't going to get him past the frontrunner. The race was always going to come down to Biden, Bernie and Warren. Also, I never said Biden was running on his own name recognition.

 

[American]

The dow jones is down over 500 points because of this news. This makes it more likely that Elizabeth Warren could be president. Warren would be a disaster for our country and economy.

Famous hedge fund manager Leon Cooperman said the stock market wouldn't open if Warren became president:



Leon Cooperman fears a shift to left: '''They won'''t open the stock market''' if Elizabeth Warren wins

Warren as President, that's rich. :lol: Trump will mop the floor with her. She doesn't have 10% of Trump's gravitas.

 

[American]

Man with clogged artery: I am growing stronger.

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[Brochacholomigo]

The words need far more contrast, but that's a spicy gif right there.

 

[OldFatGuy]

I don't think that rich people are evil, I think that family dynasties who do nothing but play at politics are evil. Every reason we had for abolishing the system of royalty and nobility when this nation was founded applies to why we should oppose future generations of Bushes, Clintons and Kennedys.

Are those of wealth and personal history who devote themselves to public service evil?

Marie Antonette was beheaded because she said "let them eat cake." It was lie. Behind her husband's back she was disbursing royal reserved food to the starving masses.

When this nation was founded, there was a move to crown Washington King after his presidency. Already one of the nation's wealthiest men, if not the wealthiest, he declined not because of principles, but because he believed it would interfere with his ability to further enrich himself. Read his letters to those who offered him the crown. We forget the Bristish King lost America because he was broke from fighting his European wars, and he thought he could milk the colonies. An example Washington cited.

The days of divine rule is still extant, albeit with limitations. In Japan, the emperor is still a living god. Here, the aristocracy is not divine.

 

[Abbazorkzog]

Why would we drop out when the first vote hasn't been cast yet?

I thought it was pretty obvious from my post that I was talking about the lead in votes/delegates...

 

[RAMOSS]

Heredity, diet, lifestyle. I had a single fifteen years ago, follow up procedure two weeks ago and all’s well. I was early 50’s for the first.

Yes, those are all factors. Stress too, which is part of lifestyle.

 

[AGENT J]

1.) What point was exposed?
2.) Trump actually is a good President--economy, jobs, energy independence, foreign policy, border security, promise keeping. Choose your area and Trump has done well.

My point still stands. That, you got right.

1.) the fact you cant back up your claim with any facts or logic, just "uh-huh" its hilarious !
2.) again as multiple people have asked based on what
3.) what point you havent made one yet, you made a statement and factually haven't been able to back it up yet

so ill repost the question you dodged and watch you dodge and run AGAIN

lets recap:

Warren does not have a better track record than Trump. No one currently in national politics does.

Track record of what specifically?

If there are exceptions, none come to mind. Trump has been a very good Chief Executive, Commander in Chief and Head Diplomat.

Feel free to start backing up your claim, we are waiting, thanks!

 

[Rexedgar]

I thought it was pretty obvious from my post that I was talking about the lead in votes/delegates...

Interesting combo in your sig. I hadn’t thought of that one.....

 

[chuckiechan]

Bernie Sanders is having heart surgery. It's relatively minor, but his ability to campaign will be severely restricted and he was already losing ground. Joe Biden is getting hit by all the attention on Ukraine.

The third debate is in less than two weeks. Will it all be over except for the rituals?

Poll did not attach. Could a Mod add one: yes, maybe, no, other.

No. Without Biden, Warren gets a hotter glare. Right now she is talking, but not having to really answer questions. If Biden is gone and Bernie is disadvantaged by health issues. She will be taken more seriously since she is Bernie light, (Bernie and Biden share much of the same demographic), and she is the only credible candidate standing.