If abortions are made illegal across the US... [W: 125:344]

[AGENT J]

Re: If abortions are made illegal across the US...

1.)Its hilarious that you can state thats a lie while asking that idiotic question of yours.

2.)Irrelevant. Just like all homes don't need to be investigated for stolen property, all deaths do not need to be investigated.

1.) translation: you can't back up your lie and are still posting it with ZERO proof which i already proved. It was a lie when you first posted it, it was a lie yesterday and your post right now is still A lie. If you disagree prove otherwise. You cant. LMAO
2.) this deflection and dodge will never work. You can answer the question or you cant. You cant because you know the honest answers destroy your retarded claims and lies you posted. Also ALL deaths are investigated, to some level. ALL. My gram dies of natural causes, still investigated . . .oooooops . . . .Ill ask you again, your post will dodge my question again and your dodge will be another loss. Going by the data there's like almost a million natural losses a year alone.(this is besides abortions) How does one investigate those? Please take us through the process.Thanks again!

 

[Removable Mind]

Re: If abortions are made illegal across the US... [W: 125]

the fact that u just sit here and fling insults after u been proven wrong says that you refuse to accept defeat in a debate. u need to learn professionalism. my sources prove u wrong. u havent shown otherwise

Please stop your dishonest claim that you have provided a source, which can only be from the Constitution itself.

Please copy and paste the section of the Constitution that infers that abortion is manslaughter if you want to show that you have an ounce of honesty, which at this time - since you have refused to post such I can only assume that you will continue to lie.

 

[MickeyW]

Re: If abortions are made illegal across the US... [W: 125]

Do you think the numbers of abortions will drastically decrease?

Yes I do. And fewer so called health care providers... will be guilty of murder.

 

[year2late]

Re: If abortions are made illegal across the US... [W: 125]

Yes I do. And fewer so called health care providers... will be guilty of murder.

It will not be called murder. UVVA is not murder. Look it up.

Additionally....the ne provider will be the same person that you can get your narcotics from. Your mind is stuck on surgical abortions. In fact, once available, abortion may even be more accessible than before. Certainly cheaper. Just more dangerous.

 

[MickeyW]

Re: If abortions are made illegal across the US... [W: 125]

It will not be called murder. UVVA is not murder. Look it up.

Additionally....the ne provider will be the same person that you can get your narcotics from. Your mind is stuck on surgical abortions. In fact, once available, abortion may even be more accessible than before. Certainly cheaper. Just more dangerous.

When you kill an infant in the womb for convenience, that is fully formed, it's murder in my book.

 

[year2late]

Re: If abortions are made illegal across the US... [W: 125]

When you kill an infant in the womb for convenience, that is fully formed, it's murder in my book.

Your book is not one of facts.

UVVA is the law.It factually is not murder.

 

[prometeus]

Re: If abortions are made illegal across the US... [W: 125]

When you kill an infant in the womb for convenience, that is fully formed, it's murder in my book.

You should read some more books then. Maybe you will discover that infants do not exist in wombs.

 

[MickeyW]

Re: If abortions are made illegal across the US... [W: 125]

Your book is not one of facts.

UVVA is the law.It factually is not murder.

Yes under UVVA, it is murder. I'm talking about abortion on demand for the sake of convenience and fully supported by those butchers at Planned Parenthood!
Because of principles of federalism embodied in the United States Constitution, federal criminal law does not apply to crimes prosecuted by the individual states. However, 38 states also recognize the fetus or "unborn child" as a crime victim, at least for purposes of homicide or feticide.[2]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unborn_Victims_of_Violence_Act

You should read some more books then. Maybe you will discover that infants do not exist in wombs.

Yes, they most certainly do exist in the womb. They feel pain, they respond to stimuli....
Ultra sound images show them, women who want healthy children take good care of their bodies and take pre-natal vitamins, they follow doctors advice. They are living beings, otherwise no one would go through all that effort...... for a polliwog.

The Unborn Victims of Violence Act of 2004 (Public Law 108-212) is a United States law which recognizes a child in utero as a legal victim, if they are injured or killed during the commission of any of over 60 listed federal crimes of violence. The law defines "child in utero" as "a member of the species Homo sapiens, at any stage of development, who is carried in the womb".[1]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unborn_Victims_of_Violence_Act

 

[prometeus]

Re: If abortions are made illegal across the US... [W: 125]

I'm talking about abortion on demand for the sake of convenience

I am curious. When was the last time you did something just because it was inconvenient?

Yes, they most certainly do exist in the womb.

As I said, read some more books. Start with a dictionary.

 

[prometeus]

Re: If abortions are made illegal across the US... [W: 125]

The Unborn Victims of Violence Act of 2004 (Public Law 108-212) is a United States law which recognizes a child in utero as a legal victim, if they are injured or killed during the commission of any of over 60 listed federal crimes of violence. The law defines "child in utero" as "a member of the species Homo sapiens, at any stage of development, who is carried in the womb".

Yea so?

 

[MickeyW]

Re: If abortions are made illegal across the US... [W: 125]

Defund Planned Parenthood!

 

[year2late]

Re: If abortions are made illegal across the US... [W: 125]

I'm not talking about UVVA, I'm talking about abortion on demand for the sake of convenience and fully supported by those butchers at Planned Parenthood!



Yes, they most certainly do exist in the womb.
Ultra sound images show them, women who want healthy children take good care of their bodies and take pre-natal vitamins, they follow doctors advice. They are living beings, other wise no one would go through all that effort.

And yet making abortion illegal will open up a market for abortion causing pills. Just think how widely available narcotics are on high school campuses across the country. It will be just that easy to obtain an abortion. Heck, possibly even cheaper and easier to get. In the days of "back alley" abortions - when abortions were still very available....they did not have access to such drugs. Now......between facebook, twitter, and your local high school....abortions are likely to be even more available.

So the nonsense of stopping abortions by making them illegal is just silly these days.

The way you drastically decrease abortions is by preventing unwanted pregnancy or turning an unwanted pregnancy into a wanted one.

Better, cheaper , safer LONG TERM birth control available for women AND MEN.

Or, figure out how to make a woman feel less hopeless about the pregnancy. Those who speak about abortion being for "convenience" show a distinct inability and total lack of desire to help a woman avoid abortion. A woman has to feel like she can safely support and nurture the born child - this means a job, safe place to say, health care, etc. Help her help herself.

But all I see is finger wagging and slut shaming and guilt trips. Not helpful to the cause...and frankly, counter productive.

 

[MickeyW]

Re: If abortions are made illegal across the US... [W: 125]

Yea so?

So .......causing the death of a child in the womb, by killing the mother or not...is murder or negligent homicide.

 

[year2late]

Re: If abortions are made illegal across the US... [W: 125]

So .......causing the death of a child in the womb, by killing the mother or not...is murder or negligent homicide.

Killing the fetus is UVVA material. Not murder.

 

[MickeyW]

Re: If abortions are made illegal across the US... [W: 125]

Killing the fetus is UVVA material. Not murder.

I don't agree.

 

[prometeus]

Re: If abortions are made illegal across the US... [W: 125]

So .......causing the death of a child in the womb, by killing the mother or not...is murder or negligent homicide.

Yea so? You think you have discovered something new here?

 

[prometeus]

Re: If abortions are made illegal across the US... [W: 125]

Defund Planned Parenthood!

Why are you so against health care for those who can not afford it? Why not make an effort and overcome ignorance?

 

[prometeus]

Re: If abortions are made illegal across the US... [W: 125]

I don't agree.

Yea, now THAT changes everything.

 

[Risky Thicket]

Re: If abortions are made illegal across the US... [W: 125]

How are churches going to pay for all those unaborted babies born as a result of a national ban? No way the GOP will pass an national abortion ban. Never happen.

 

[eohrnberger]

Re: If abortions are made illegal across the US...

No and no, why would it? And even as a pro-lifer I know this(abortions becoming illegal) is not going to happen.

Agreed. Roe vs. Wade decision has been long established law, it's not likely that it'll be overturned. Kinda makes threads like these kinda 'to what purpose'?

 

[MickeyW]

Re: If abortions are made illegal across the US... [W: 125]

Why are you so against health care for those who can not afford it? Why not make an effort and overcome ignorance?

Because I'm not ignorant at all and a large portion of PP's budget is spent on late term abortions. That fact alone should stop all funding until they straighten up their act !!

Yea, now THAT changes everything.

It's just that just because a stupid law has been passed to shield child murderers, doesn't make it right and millions of us do not agree with it. I'm certainly not alone.

I'm a member and contributor to Right to Life.....have been since it's inception.

 

[year2late]

Re: If abortions are made illegal across the US... [W: 125]

I don't agree.

Well, I believe my interpretation of law is correct.

 

[MickeyW]

Re: If abortions are made illegal across the US...

How are churches going to pay for all those unaborted babies born as a result of a national ban? No way the GOP will pass an national abortion ban. Never happen.

Agreed. Roe vs. Wade decision has been long established law, it's not likely that it'll be overturned. Kinda makes threads like these kinda 'to what purpose'?

People should never stop fighting for the lives of the unborn. In the case of rape or incest, I'm ok with it....but not because people are stupid in getting pregnant .......or for convenience.

 

[MickeyW]

Re: If abortions are made illegal across the US... [W: 125]

Well, I believe my interpretation of law is correct.

You can interpret it how you see fit....that doesn't mean that people have to agree with a law.

There are hundreds of asinine laws on the books, that I don't agree with.

 

[year2late]

Re: If abortions are made illegal across the US... [W: 125]

Defund Planned Parenthood!

Again, counter productive. They do more to prevent abortion through access to birth control than your finger wagging could ever accomplish.