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IF a civil war really does break out?

What will you be doing if a civil war does break out?


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What did you disagree with? That there is a military industrial complex with a revolving door among defense contractors, big pharma and the intelligence community/Pentago, together with a highly controlled media which answers to precisely those people and peddles their approved narratives? You disagree with that?
 
I answered exactly what you asked for - proofs of what I posted. That is what I posted.
no, you factually did not so the rest of your post after that is meaningless as usual. soooooo until you do we'll just keep pointing that fact out, exposing and kicking the shit out of the false claim you got caught posting LMAO

so here we are in the same spot,
please provide the facts that show they are "selling" a false notion of that (MAGA people being a threat) and those people (MAGA People) aren't doing that themselves in any way. . .we'll wait!
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who bets my question is dodged and run from again?
in fact can ANYBODY answer my question and post facts supporting this false claim

But, the militiary industrial complex and the intelligence community are selling the notion that "MAGA" and not they, themselves, are the threat to our country.

can anybody please provide the facts that show they are "selling" a false notion of that (MAGA people being a threat) and those people (MAGA People) aren't doing that themselves in any way
 
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I know. That's why it's a lost cause. People don't want to know anything that takes more than a minute to digest, and isn't simple. Noam Chomsky tried, but failed.
It's a shame. But you have to admit it is so much easier just to believe everything we hear on MSNBC or FOX News. Digging deeper and connecting dots is a lot harder, very time consuming, depressing, and often requires that people learn alot about international finance and geopolitics. Most people would rather dedicate that time to gaming or pornhub. They're probably right and much happier.
 
I really have no choice but to do that as well. I'll warm up the old Kel-Tec KSG shotgun, and "Katie, bar the door!" https://nationalinterest.org/blog/reboot/kel-tec-ksg-25-high-capacity-shotgun-huge-punch-196942

But there isn't going to be a new civil war, not unless the owners of this country want it. The insiders - the Establishment - the military industrial complex and the "intelligence community" can start a civil war if they want one. But, the people - the "MAGA crowd" can't do it, and don't want to do it. But, the militiary industrial complex and the intelligence community are selling the notion that "MAGA" and not they, themselves, are the threat to our country.

One day, the Left and the Right will wake up and realize they are being used as pawns by the owners of this country.

A civil war will only happen when there is a force large enough to organize factions with military power. That takes more than a grassroots protest campaign or a pack of dickweeds rioting. A civil war cannot happen here without State level - military/industrial and intelligence community - power being brought to bear. That's because if there was any grassroots revolutionary that was trying to organize any force of consequence, he'd be jailed or dead easily.

Anyway- in the hypothetical, fantasyland scenario that we have a civil war or civil uprising that comes around my geographic area - I'll try to stock up on food and toothpaste, teach my girls how to fire the guns a bit earlier than they should - beef up the perimeter of the homestead, and be ready to lay down covering fire. What else can we do?
One question that arises in this hypothetical. Let's say there is an uprisimg within the people, the government, the military, etc...

Would our military leaders be able to fire on our own countrymen? Would the US President (whoever it would be) be able to give that order? Its one thing to give the order to shoot down a hijacked airliner. At least there were foreign terrorists on those flights taking control of the flight. It's another to fire on civilian and rebellion targets knowing they are your own countrymen, with our own civilians in the crossfire on both sides.
 
One question that arises in this hypothetical. Let's say there is an uprisimg within the people, the government, the military, etc...

Would our military leaders be able to fire on our own countrymen? Would the US President (whoever it would be) be able to give that order? Its one thing to give the order to shoot down a hijacked airliner. At least there were foreign terrorists on those flights taking control of the flight. It's another to fire on civilian and rebellion targets knowing they are your own countrymen, with our own civilians in the crossfire on both sides.
Is the military 50% MAGA and 50% non-MAGA? How is that going to play out? Would the military first have to kill all their MAGA members? And then there is this problem:
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Killing anyone of color will be SO racist. Oh well, we'll cross those bridges when we get there.
 
no, you factually did not so the rest of your post after that is meaningless as usual. soooooo until you do we'll just keep pointing that fact out, exposing and kicking the shit out of the false claim you got caught posting LMAO

so here we are in the same spot,
please provide the facts that show they are "selling" a false notion of that (MAGA people being a threat) and those people (MAGA People) aren't doing that themselves in any way. . .we'll wait!
🍿

who bets my question is dodged and run from again?
in fact can ANYBODY answer my question and post facts supporting this false claim



can anybody please provide the facts that show they are "selling" a false notion of that (MAGA people being a threat) and those people (MAGA People) aren't doing that themselves in any way
MAGA is the threat to democracy. The Drumpf has succeeded in weakening the press & law enforcement with his lies . I foresee a guerrilla war continuing with bombing & attacks on abortion providers & locations of left & right agencies, ambushes etc. Such as the attempted fire bombing of that Democratic headquarters last year. Expect Krystal night after Nov. 8th. I hope I’m being paranoid.
A lot of shits gonna go down before we have to get back to worrying about the military Industral Complex.
 
Do you think the 400,000 families of the soldiers killed by disease were any less devastated than the 200,000 dead from gunshots, explosives and bayonets? What’s your point?
Either way, I don’t see over 600,000 deaths from a few nutcases. Besides, there was only one gunshot victim on January 6th, in the so called insurrection described by the left as the most devastating attack since the civil war. Lol 😂

:rolleyes: *sigh* You said, "There were more Americans killed in the war between the states than WW1, WW2, Korea and Viet Nam combined." Killed implies they died in combat but I pointed out 2/3 died of disease. Now show me where I said anything like the bolded in the above quote. Oh wait, you can't because I didn't.

Hyperbole notwithstanding, January 6th was an insurrection but thankfully not a very well organized one. My point, since it obviously went over your head, is comparing a civil war 160 years ago to a modern one is false equivalence. Even if they were comparable, given modern medicine and sanitation, I agree there likely wouldn't be 600,000 or 400,000 or even 200,000 deaths in four years. (Course even with modern medicine, we've already lost over 1,000,000 to a single disease in less than three years.) But again, a current civil war won't be guys in blue and gray uniforms lining up and shooting at each other. It will be a guerilla war with terrorist attacks on both sides and all that takes is a wing nut group of big mouths inflaming the kooks. Yuck it up as much as you like but that's already underway. It hasn't been wiped out and won't be unless and until there's a treaty. But neither side is willing to compromise so the war just goes on and on. If it goes on long enough, we may hit 600,000 and more.
 
What did you disagree with? That there is a military industrial complex with a revolving door among defense contractors, big pharma and the intelligence community/Pentago, together with a highly controlled media which answers to precisely those people and peddles their approved narratives? You disagree with that?
It's a frightening world out there

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I love how Leftists now reject the core of Noam Chomsky's "Manufacturing Consent," as if it's some kind of conspiracy theory. LOL
Summarize it for me. The library is closed.
 
:rolleyes: *sigh* You said, "There were more Americans killed in the war between the states than WW1, WW2, Korea and Viet Nam combined." Killed implies they died in combat but I pointed out 2/3 died of disease. Now show me where I said anything like the bolded in the above quote. Oh wait, you can't because I didn't.
Certainly up until the Vietnam War, even the active combat Union death toll was more than all other wars the US fought combined. I think the Vietnam War put that over the top. Confederate KIA was about 94,000, so if you total Union and Confederate deaths in the Civil war, just combat, you get 204,000 KIA, which exceeds all combat deaths of all fought by the US.
Hyperbole notwithstanding, January 6th was an insurrection but thankfully not a very well organized one.
January 6 included a stupid riot. It wasn't an "insurrection," if that word is to have any meaning. I mean, if January 6 was an insurrection, then so was the BLM and Antifa riots, since they too attacked federal (and state) government buildings, and the overt, open purpose of the riot was to overthrow the current system which was said to be systemically oppressive and racist and needed to be "dismantled."
My point, since it obviously went over your head, is comparing a civil war 160 years ago to a modern one is false equivalence.
Right, because there is no civil war now, and there was one then. Nothing today is anywhere close to what happened then.
Even if they were comparable, given modern medicine and sanitation, I agree there likely wouldn't be 600,000 or 400,000 or even 200,000 deaths in four years. (Course even with modern medicine, we've already lost over 1,000,000 to a single disease in less than three years.) But again, a current civil war won't be guys in blue and gray uniforms lining up and shooting at each other. It will be a guerilla war with terrorist attacks on both sides and all that takes is a wing nut group of big mouths inflaming the kooks.
And nobody is doing any of that, and nobody did that on 1/6
 
Summarize it for me. The library is closed.
I already did, above, in three successive posts, wherein I discussed the 5 filters, the nature of the military industrial complex, the consolidation of media, the control of media by the military industrial complex, etc. I mean, this is not something anyone on the Left should not already be intimately familiar with - I mean, it's core Left Liberalism for the past 50 god damn years. Anyone who claims to be on the Left who can't say what Manufacturing Consent is ought to be ashamed of himself.
 
Another civil war thread?

No, civil war is not going to break out and I am certain the overwhelming majority of the keyboard warriors around here would not be doing very much of what they claim they would.
 
I already did, above, in three successive posts, wherein I discussed the 5 filters, the nature of the military industrial complex, the consolidation of media, the control of media by the military industrial complex, etc. I mean, this is not something anyone on the Left should not already be intimately familiar with - I mean, it's core Left Liberalism for the past 50 god damn years. Anyone who claims to be on the Left who can't say what Manufacturing Consent is ought to be ashamed of himself.
Remind us again oh sage one :ROFLMAO:
 
I already did, above, in three successive posts, wherein I discussed the 5 filters, the nature of the military industrial complex, the consolidation of media, the control of media by the military industrial complex, etc. I mean, this is not something anyone on the Left should not already be intimately familiar with - I mean, it's core Left Liberalism for the past 50 god damn years. Anyone who claims to be on the Left who can't say what Manufacturing Consent is ought to be ashamed of himself.
It’s core fascism. Controlling the media (or convincing a large portion of the people not to trust it) the MIC is basically the 1%, who is & always has been invested in keeping the underclass at each other’s throats. The monkey wrench is MAGA under the Drumpf, who scares the shit out of the elites once they figured out that they can’t control him. Like Saul Alinski’s hand book for radicals, Chomsky’s theory, if I understand it, is not restricted to lefties.
MAGA is the biggest threat to democracy at this time. Jan 6th was an attempted coup, while none of the protests were, even those that got violent, it does puzzle me that you deny that the stop the steal speech wasn’t intended to send the MAGA to the Capital to fight like hell to return the stolen election to the Drumpf who convinced them that had actually won, He Didn’t! Putting the words “march peaceably” into a 45 + minute insindeary speech, for plausible deniably doesn’t clear him of his obvious intent. Even if you don’t take into consideration the planning that went into lining up proud boys etc.
 
Cool. Tell them about our universal healthcare, subsidized tertiary education, paid family leave and gun laws.

They're going to love it here 😍
Well now you have it. After the good guys come in that will all be history. You might even have to go to work
 
If I asked everyone here - to give an honest answer - would YOU?

Let's say for the sake of argument, some sort of civil war breaks out (like so many on the Right would like to see).

It might not be military units against military units, but civilian against civilian, or armed militias against the police, national guard, and the military.

Might it be state vs state? Doubtful, but all it takes is for ONE governor to declare independence and empower state law enforcement personnel to take over federal government institutions.

However, my question is not whether YOU believe a civil war will happen, but instead ask, what will YOU be doing if such an event occurs?

Choices above in the poll section.

Change the channel to rugby or something and be a 'good citizen' bringing donuts and coffee to the American refugees streaming across our border.

And increase prices on food, oil, wood etc.
If I asked everyone here - to give an honest answer - would YOU?

Let's say for the sake of argument, some sort of civil war breaks out (like so many on the Right would like to see).

It might not be military units against military units, but civilian against civilian, or armed militias against the police, national guard, and the military.

Might it be state vs state? Doubtful, but all it takes is for ONE governor to declare independence and empower state law enforcement personnel to take over federal government institutions.

However, my question is not whether YOU believe a civil war will happen, but instead ask, what will YOU be doing if such an event occurs?

Choices above in the poll section.


Supporting my local Armory.

The Princess Patricia Brigade is just down the street. I would go there and volunteer for anything that keeps the ****ing war below the 49th.

I would even consider taking up arms.

No way that shit's migrating north
 
I dunno how you can just go about your business with armies strolling around your neighborhood.

The American Civil War has given people a grossly distorted view of what a nations Civil War is like.

In a future American Civil War there would be no "armies strolling around your neighborhood". At most it would be gangs of malcontents burning businesses. More like ANTIFA on steroids.
 
The American Civil War has given people a grossly distorted view of what a nations Civil War is like.

In a future American Civil War there would be no "armies strolling around your neighborhood". At most it would be gangs of malcontents burning businesses. More like ANTIFA on steroids.
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I already did, above, in three successive posts, wherein I discussed the 5 filters, the nature of the military industrial complex, the consolidation of media, the control of media by the military industrial complex, etc. I mean, this is not something anyone on the Left should not already be intimately familiar with - I mean, it's core Left Liberalism for the past 50 god damn years. Anyone who claims to be on the Left who can't say what Manufacturing Consent is ought to be ashamed of himself.
Yeah. :)
 
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