IDF Murders Four Palestinian Water Engineers In Gaza

[oneworld2]

Oxfam reports that Israeli forces killed four water engineers and workers on their way to repair water infrastructure in Gaza.

“Despite prior coordination with Israeli authorities their clearly-marked vehicle was bombed,” Oxfam says.

It’s gotten to the point where the only advantage to sharing your coordinates with the IDF as an aid worker in Gaza is that it will allow the historical records to show that they knew exactly what they were doing when they used those coordinates to kill you.

Israeli forces found and killed Hamas leader Yahya Sinwar by accident while they were just randomly destroying parts of Gaza, and then they methodically targeted and killed four water engineers on purpose. These two facts alone tell you everything you need to know about what Israel is really doing in Gaza.

The four men were murdered after setting out to repair water infrastructure damaged in Khuzaa, east of Khan Younis despite having given their corodinated to the Israeli terrorist army in Gaza and driving in a clearly marked vehicle

Oxfam condemns killing of water engineers in Gaza | Oxfam International

www.oxfam.org

"It’s gotten to the point where the only advantage to sharing your coordinates with the IDF as an aid worker in Gaza is that it will allow the historical records to show that they knew exactly what they were doing when they used those coordinates to kill you."

^^ I think that's a pretty compelling point, not that the usual Israeli terrorist apologists would ever acknowledge it or even care about the terrorist murder of 4 more aid workers in Gaza.

Just as in Israel itself, the supporters of Israeli state terrorism clearly show that they value the lives of Israelis infinitely more than they do the lives of Palestinians but complain when that racism is exposed and react with the predictable phony claims of racism themselves, although crucially avoiding any calls for them to back them up with any compelling evidence. They are such vile and cowardly people imo

You can see this in numerous threads here from the same Israeli state terrorist apologists, over and over again, and that's only when they dare show up for the thread. Often times they just either ignore the crimes listed or the threads themselves.

Sucks for them imo, they are so hopelessly hypocritical and cowardly in their interactions with others, in their capacity to even engage in meaningful debate on the subject of war crimes/terrorism[/B]

 

[oneworld2]

The subsequent commentary from Caitlin Johnstone, surrounding the gross dehumanization of the Palestinians in Israeli society and the reasons for it, are as logically compelling as any that you will come across

Because Israel is a fundamentally unjust state established on fundamentally unjust principles, it is necessary for its citizenry to be indoctrinated from birth into a fundamentally unjust worldview. In order for it to make sense for there to be a society where one group is treated one way and another group is treated another way just because of their religion and ethnicity, Israelis must be raised to see Palestinians as less than human

The more objective people here will see the soundness of the arguments and the evidence in the very coverage of the conflict we are subjected to, the Israeli state terrorism apologist will refuse to see anything other than this dehumanization is justified and cite the very same skewed racist bs to underscore the claim.

It's just the reality of the debate about this conflict, it always has been and likely always will be because we are sure to destroy ourselves before this horrible injustice is ever justly resolved.

 

[Serenity]

Aid workers are NOT legitimate targets.

 

[oneworld2]

Aid workers are NOT legitimate targets.

Neither are the little kids being shot in the head on a daily basis by Israeli army snipers.

Or those unarmed civilians, shelled and killed, after running to assist an injured child who was sniped by Israeli state terrorists

Or people with Downs syndrome who have been mauled to death by Israeli dogs and left to bleed out while their parents were forced to listen to their suffering at Israeli gun point in the next room

Or people burned to death after being forced to take their bed and IVs outside in tents because the hospitals are destroyed/rammed.

But nobody wants to discuss these savage and abominable outrages at the same time they repeat, ad nauseam, the debunked atrocity propaganda fed out by the Israeli hasbara machine in the wake of 7th October attack.

Welcome to the racism that is the defining feature that allows all of the above to be accepted by the " civilized" West and it's middle eastern state terrorist ally , Israel.

 

[Serenity]

Neither are the little kids being shot in the head on a daily basis by Israeli army snipers.

Or those unarmed civilians, shelled and killed, after running to assist an injured child who was sniped by Israeli state terrorists

Or people with Downs syndrome who have been mauled to death by Israeli dogs and left to bleed out while their parents were forced to listen to their suffering at Israeli gun point in the next room

Or people burned to death after being forced to take their bed and IVs outside in tents because the hospitals are destroyed/rammed.

But nobody wants to discuss these savage and abominable outrages at the same time they repeat, ad nauseam, the debunked atrocity propaganda fed out by the Israeli hasbara machine in the wake of 7th October attack.

Welcome to the racism that is the defining feature that allows all of the above to be accepted by the " civilized" West and it's middle eastern state terrorist ally , Israel.

It's not accepted by me.

 

[bongsaway]

The four men were murdered after setting out to repair water infrastructure damaged in Khuzaa, east of Khan Younis despite having given their corodinated to the Israeli terrorist army in Gaza and driving in a clearly marked vehicle

Oxfam condemns killing of water engineers in Gaza | Oxfam International

www.oxfam.org

"It’s gotten to the point where the only advantage to sharing your coordinates with the IDF as an aid worker in Gaza is that it will allow the historical records to show that they knew exactly what they were doing when they used those coordinates to kill you."

^^ I think that's a pretty compelling point, not that the usual Israeli terrorist apologists would ever acknowledge it or even care about the terrorist murder of 4 more aid workers in Gaza.

Just as in Israel itself, the supporters of Israeli state terrorism clearly show that they value the lives of Israelis infinitely more than they do the lives of Palestinians but complain when that racism is exposed and react with the predictable phony claims of racism themselves, although crucially avoiding any calls for them to back them up with any compelling evidence. They are such vile and cowardly people imo

You can see this in numerous threads here from the same Israeli state terrorist apologists, over and over again, and that's only when they dare show up for the thread. Often times they just either ignore the crimes listed or the threads themselves.

Sucks for them imo, they are so hopelessly hypocritical and cowardly in their interactions with others, in their capacity to even engage in meaningful debate on the subject of war crimes/terrorism[/B]

Would it surprise anyone if the drone attack against NetanYahoo's place was done by the IDF? This man is a war criminal.

 

[bongsaway]

The subsequent commentary from Caitlin Johnstone, surrounding the gross dehumanization of the Palestinians in Israeli society and the reasons for it, are as logically compelling as any that you will come across



The more objective people here will see the soundness of the arguments and the evidence in the very coverage of the conflict we are subjected to, the Israeli state terrorism apologist will refuse to see anything other than this dehumanization is justified and cite the very same skewed racist bs to underscore the claim.

It's just the reality of the debate about this conflict, it always has been and likely always will be because we are sure to destroy ourselves before this horrible injustice is ever justly resolved.

These politicians hate each other, the peoples hate each other for the most part and all they've known for decades is fighting between the two peoples and the Arabs and the Jews in general, it's never ending. Half the fighting is about land and the other half about religion. I personally see no end in the near future.

 

[Craig234]

Aid workers are NOT legitimate targets.

They are to people whose purpose is genocide. People trying to cut off all water as part of a campaign to get rid of a population.

 

[Gardener]

They are to people whose purpose is genocide. People trying to cut off all water as part of a campaign to get rid of a population.

Hamas has the genocide of Jews listed as its very purpose, yet you and others here are big supporters.

 

[oneworld2]

These politicians hate each other, the peoples hate each other for the most part and all they've known for decades is fighting between the two peoples and the Arabs and the Jews in general, it's never ending. Half the fighting is about land and the other half about religion. I personally see no end in the near future.

I see no end in the near future too but I think we owe it to ourselves to at least find out the facts about the conflict and denounce the crimes whatever side engages in them

 

[Craig234]

These politicians hate each other, the peoples hate each other for the most part and all they've known for decades is fighting between the two peoples and the Arabs and the Jews in general, it's never ending. Half the fighting is about land and the other half about religion. I personally see no end in the near future.

That's really a misrepresentation of the situation. It's like describing the Holocaust as 'the Nazis and Jews always hated each other and all they knew was fighting each other'. Arab resistance is overwhelmingly against violent fanatical colonists attacking them, not 'hating Jews', who had lived with them peacefully for centuries. Rogue State Israel ()Much worse than Hamas) is not who you think (a bunch of Jewish people wanting peace apparently).

 

[bongsaway]

I see no end in the near future too but I think we owe it to ourselves to at least find out the facts about the conflict and denounce the crimes whatever side engages in them

We will never find out the facts and anyway I already told you the facts, they hate each other.

 

[oneworld2]

We will never find out the facts and anyway I already told you the facts, they hate each other.

No, we do find out many of the facts albeit too late on many occasions but we do and that's a fact

 

[bongsaway]

That's really a misrepresentation of the situation. It's like describing the Holocaust as 'the Nazis and Jews always hated each other and all they knew was fighting each other'. Arab resistance is overwhelmingly against violent fanatical colonists attacking them, not 'hating Jews', who had lived with them peacefully for centuries. Rogue State Israel ()Much worse than Hamas) is not who you think (a bunch of Jewish people wanting peace apparently).

Tell me, when was the last time you can remember there not being some sort of conflict in the middle east? Ever since Israel was created from Palestinian lands, it's been a problem. Am I incorrect in that statement?

 

[Craig234]

Tell me, when was the last time you can remember there not being some sort of conflict in the middle east? Ever since Israel was created from Palestinian lands, it's been a problem. Am I incorrect in that statement?

It's an incorrect framing of the issue, implying a sort of 'both sides just hate each other and can't get along and are equally wrong' framing, instead of the correct framing of colonial aggressor and resistance.

 

[oneworld2]

Hamas has the genocide of Jews listed as its very purpose, yet you and others here are big supporters.

You can support the right of a people to resist illegal occupation and ethnic cleansing, apartheid etc etc without supporting other aspects of their agenda/ideology

Tell me, when was the last time you can remember there not being some sort of conflict in the middle east? Ever since Israel was created from Palestinian lands, it's been a problem. Am I incorrect in that statement?

Israel was an unjust imposition on the ME and that's why there has been trouble there with it ever since. Recognizing that and understanding why is key to understanding the situation today.

 

[Craig234]

We will never find out the facts and anyway I already told you the facts, they hate each other.

Would you say WWII in Europe is better described as "Hitler launched invasions of his neighbors and was resisted", or "European countries have fought for centuries and just hate each other"?

 

[Craig234]

Israel was an unjust imposition on the ME and that's why there has been trouble there with it ever since. Recognizing that and understanding why is key to understanding the situation today.

I would say, the entire region has ACCEPTED that unjust imposition within the 1967 borders, and the conflict is because rogue state Israel (Much worse than Hamas) refuses to stay in those borders and has a fanatic obsession with colonizing their neighbors.

 

[bongsaway]

It's an incorrect framing of the issue, implying a sort of 'both sides just hate each other and can't get along and are equally wrong' framing, instead of the correct framing of colonial aggressor and resistance.

Like I said, it's been going on a long time and I don't see it ending anytime soon. For it to end both parties would have to agree they are both the aggressors and that ain't gonna' happen.

 

[OrphanSlug]

Not surprising, sad but not shocked.

Israel is targeting anyone and everyone doing something they do not like, or simply being somewhere Israel does not want them to be.

This lunacy is going no where anytime soon.

 

[bongsaway]

Would you say WWII in Europe is better described as "Hitler launched invasions of his neighbors and was resisted", or "European countries have fought for centuries and just hate each other"?

Let me repeat, the Palestinians and the Jews hate each. Were you aware Hitler sent one of his top men to Iraq? Iran? Egypt? Some country in the middle east to stir up hatred for the Jews among the arabs after the war ended? Why are you trying to compare the second world war to this situation?

 

[Craig234]

Let me repeat, the Palestinians and the Jews hate each. Were you aware Hitler sent one of his top men to Iraq? Iran? Egypt? Some country in the middle east to stir up hatred for the Jews among the arabs after the war ended? Why are you trying to compare the second world war to this situation?

I think on this issue, you are willfully obtuse and there's 'no getting through'. An analogy about a point between two things doesn't mean saying the two things are the same, also.

 

[oneworld2]

Not surprising, sad but not shocked.

Israel is targeting anyone and everyone doing something they do not like, or simply being somewhere Israel does not want them to be.

This lunacy is going no where anytime soon.

Do you think their killing is an act of terrorism?

Do you think what Israel is doing in northern Gaza, blocking off the water and food, killing innocent civilians in obviously targeted attacks, shooting toddlers in the head, dropping bombs on hospitals and tent cities etc etc is state terrorism ?

 

[OrphanSlug]

Do you think their killing is an act of terrorism?

Do you think what Israel is doing in northern Gaza, blocking off the water and food, killing innocent civilians in obviously targeted attacks, shooting toddlers in the head, dropping bombs on hospitals and tent cities etc etc is state terrorism ?

War crimes for sure, not that the UN or anyone else will do much about it.

 

[oneworld2]

War crimes for sure, not that the UN or anyone else will do much about it.

I asked to try to understand your logic as it relates to another conversation we are having in a different thread.

I agree these are war crimes but don't follow how you then class the war crimes committed by Palestinians/Hamas etc in the 7th October attack as " terrorism" that it was a " terrorist attack"

How does the above work, what's the logic?