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ICE forces U.S. Army Purple Heart veteran to deport—after taking 2 bullets in combat.

If not for the criminal record, I would have been okay with granting him citizenship for his military service.

Drug trafficking's can be a permeant bar to citizenship. Simple use or possession may reset the clock in as a temporary matter.

Other sources have said his crime was possession.

Given the time from his post service Purple Heart days, his drug conviction is not a permeant bar to citizenship. "In most cases, they will need to wait for five years after the date of the crime before applying for citizenship, or possibly three years in some situations." In addition his recovery, extended time of non-drug use would also be considerations.

Now - What his status was since he was here legally until DHS decided to revoke his Green Card after decades of a clean record is open for more information to be needed.

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You understand that every time he bought illegal drugs he was breaking the law right. That this needs to be explained to a “cop” is rather surprising.

Where does ANYTHING I wrote suggest I don’t understand that? There is a difference you learn, if you’re aware of people and learn from your experiences in “the greatest social science lab class” you can take, in enforcement of the law that there is a difference between hard core criminals and people at crisis.

This guy, who was here legally, served his adopted nation and did it well, got majorly injured in that service and involved with drugs reads like the latter, not the former.

I was a good LEO. I didn’t just enforce the law, I literally tried to serve my community by learning about its people in that service. I let that learning, within the scope of the laws and my general orders, guide that service.

What you think of me makes no difference. You want to attack my opinions, have at it. If you can make a case I’ll acknowledge it. Always have with others who did so. If you want to attack me, especially without possibly knowing a thing about me, like I said on that (no reason to repeat it). Go all ad hominem. I figure you’re only hurting your own reputation with it.



You brought up the question of if I served and then did some stupid “subtract a few points” nonsense. So yes your comment in my service. Why lie any something so easily disproven.

That’s a misunderstanding and if I contributed to that I sincerely apologize.

My comment in ‘esprit de corp” was about your opinion in regard to a fellow military person. I thought, and still do think, it lacks empathy for your own kind and that is part of “esprit de corp”. It wasn’t a comment on the value of your service. I thought that was clear but if it wasn’t, again, sorry for not making that clearer.

I clearly stated I thought you were violating ethics of Golden Rule Ethical Thinking in treating one of your own differently than you’d have yourself treated under like circumstances. That is what the “esprit de corps” comment was in reference to.

No it’s gibberish. Go back and read it. Similar to your claim “I doubt anyone reading sling” is gibberish.

That’s not gibberish. You don’t think others give it a passing thought as they read past it. I doubt they give it more than a second or two but they do judge.

Yeah lying is definitely not the right thing but that never seems to slow you down. I mean just look at your pretend cop experience as an example.

And so you double down. Nice. :rolleyes:
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I sympathize with what he has gone through however when you just post tidbits from social media, you are not telling the entire story. He does have a criminal record.

“Drugs had a big control throughout my life and that’s what eventually got me into trouble with the law and everything,” Park said.

In 2009, he was convicted of drug and bail offenses and served two and a half years in prison. When he was released, ICE agents detained him and revoked his green card."

He self-deported. That may at some point give him the chance to come back and remain legally

I came here to see who would defend this shit and I am utterly unsurprised.
 
I came here to see who would defend this shit and I am utterly unsurprised.
I didn't even think this thread would get any traction. I figured 8 or 9 or liberals would say what happened to him is ridiculous and then the thread would die.
 
Drug trafficking's can be a permeant bar to citizenship. Simple use or possession may reset the clock in as a temporary matter.

Other sources have said his crime was possession.

Given the time from his post service Purple Heart days, his drug conviction is not a permeant bar to citizenship. "In most cases, they will need to wait for five years after the date of the crime before applying for citizenship, or possibly three years in some situations." In addition his recovery, extended time of non-drug use would also be considerations.

Now - What his status was since he was here legally until DHS decided to revoke his Green Card after decades of a clean record is open for more information to be needed.

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It is difficult to obtain or keep a green card with a criminal record. The law is the law.
 
I didn't even think this thread would get any traction. I figured 8 or 9 or liberals would say what happened to him is ridiculous and then the thread would die.
It attracted some right wing last worders so who knows how long this thread will lurch along.
 
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Hearing someone talk sack the golden rule ethical thinking after then have been caught in numerous lies is rather ironic.


BTW, that’s simply not true.

We had a difference of OPINION on handguns and what is capable with them, and I stated that under a controlled environment I had done precisely what I stated was possible and they, and you, claimed I was lying. You couldn’t possibly know, but it’s opinion so… as the kids say, whatever.

But then you rude souls took it a step further and attacked me personally by saying my police service was a fraud. I literally posted a photo of my service retirement plaque (redacted to protect my identity) to show I was telling the truth. It was claimed I downloaded it from internet. Like I said, R U D E! Showing the treating of others differently than you’d have yourself treated thing is relatively common with you three.

Not cool, Bro. Not cool at all.
 
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I didn't even think this thread would get any traction. I figured 8 or 9 or liberals would say what happened to him is ridiculous and then the thread would die.

But as usual, liberals leave out immigrants breaking the law. The very reason it puts their status at risk. Not just this thread, but many others.
 
I didn't even think this thread would get any traction. I figured 8 or 9 or liberals would say what happened to him is ridiculous and then the thread would die.

I’m NOT a Liberal (not that I think there is anything wrong with being one) and I can tell that IF it is as reported it’s just plain wrong.

Ethics are ethics and right vs. wrong doesn’t have political leanings. Right is always right and wrong is always wrong, regardless of the politics.
 
But as usual, liberals leave out immigrants breaking the law. The very reason it puts their status at risk. Not just this thread, but many others.
So the solution is to wait 5 years after he cleaned himself up, throw his medals in a box for him and ship him out?

Spare me.
 

ICE forces U.S. Army Purple Heart veteran to deport—after taking 2 bullets in combat.

If true, what can I say?

MAGA!!!
 
No one said that it was. I think the country should give him grace because his problems started because of his deployment. But, your attitude is typical of conservatives - idealistic expectations and then disdain for not living up to the ideal.
Have that baby! You can't have food stamps!
Serve your country! Deal with the service induced mental illness!
Free speech! Burning the flag is wrong!
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Do you support changing any ridiculous law that prevents this guy from remaining in the country he took two bullets for?
I support changing any law that is found to be ridiculous.
 
Where does ANYTHING I wrote suggest I don’t understand that? There is a difference you learn, if you’re aware of people and learn from your experiences in “the greatest social science lab class” you can take, in enforcement of the law that there is a difference between hard core criminals and people at crisis.

This guy, who was here legally, served his adopted nation and did it well, got majorly injured in that service and involved with drugs reads like the latter, not the former.

I was a good LEO. I didn’t just enforce the law, I literally tried to serve my community by learning about its people in that service. I let that learning, within the scope of the laws and my general orders, guide that service.

What you think of me makes no difference. You want to attack my opinions, have at it. If you can make a case I’ll acknowledge it. Always have with others who did so. If you want to attack me, especially without possibly knowing a thing about me, like I said on that (no reason to repeat it). Go all ad hominem. I figure you’re only hurting your own reputation with it.





That’s a misunderstanding and if I contributed to that I sincerely apologize.

My comment in ‘esprit de corp” was about your opinion in regard to a fellow military person. I thought, and still do think, it lacks empathy for your own kind and that is part of “esprit de corp”. It wasn’t a comment on the value of your service. I thought that was clear but if it wasn’t, again, sorry for not making that clearer.

I clearly stated I thought you were violating ethics of Golden Rule Ethical Thinking in treating one of your own differently than you’d have yourself treated under like circumstances. That is what the “esprit de corps” comment was in reference to.



That’s not gibberish. You don’t think others give it a passing thought as they read past it. I doubt they give it more than a second or two but they do judge.



And so you double down. Nice. :rolleyes:
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So you don’t remember back when you said it want a bunch of laws that he broke. You are really struggling here. Kind of like how you are having to make up bs like that I implied he is hard core criminal.


Yeah sorry, not buying your LE story. Doesn’t matter how many times you try and peddle it.


Just because someone serves does not mean that they are above the LE, a real cop would understand that.
And no if I break the law I fully expect that I would be punished like anyone else.


No it’s gibberish. Denying it isn’t going to help.
 
BTW, that’s simply not true.

We had a difference of OPINION on handguns and what is capable with them, and I stated that under a controlled environment I had done precisely what I stated was possible and they, and you, claimed I was lying. You couldn’t possibly know, but it’s opinion so… as the kids say, whatever.

But then you rude souls took it a step further and attacked me personally by saying my police service was a fraud. I literally posted a photo of my service retirement plaque (redacted to protect my identity) to show I was telling the truth. It was claimed I downloaded it from internet. Like I said, R U D E! Showing the treating of others differently than you’d have yourself treated thing is relatively common with you three.

Not cool, Bro. Not cool at all.
It’s too late to go back and pretend now.
You got caught. Best you can do is try and move on.


That’s is the always the case when people make no fake stores like they served in the military when they didn’t or were a cop when they weren’t, sooner or later they lack of knowledge exposes them. Happen every time.
 
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