IAEA chief: No evidence Iran is building a nuclear weapon

[jmotivator]

ALL SORTS OF SHIT

could be going on


"What sort of shit is there actually evidence of?" is the question, though.

Just because one of us can imagine that something could be happening, that's not evidence.
imho

The core evidence is that the Iranians have been enriching Uranium well past generator grade and well towards warhead grade while actively cooperating with North Korea to build their own version of Horth Korea's nuclear ICBM.

My assessment of the denial in this threat remains the same.

 

[Simon W. Moon]

The core evidence is that the Iranians have been enriching Uranium well past generator grade and well towards warhead grade while actively cooperating with North Korea to build their own version of Horth Korea's nuclear ICBM.

My assessment of the denial in this threat remains the same.

Is the USIC aware of this concerning activity?

It seems if they knew about this activity you discuss, they would have used this information when making their assessment.

 

[Jredbaron96]

Where did I say that the enrichment facilities contained centrifuges? That's a fine straw man you've built.

How do you propose Iran enrich Uranium without the equipment to do so?

Enrichment facilities - facilities used for Iran's enrichment program

No, I mean enrichment facilities as in facilities where Iran could enrich Uranium, like what the word means.

 

[Jredbaron96]

They were enriching up to 60%. Civilian use requires nothing more than 5%. Why?

Probably because they want a bomb.

I'm not denying the possibility Iran is currently enriching Uranium. My point was doubt that Iran had a secret enrichment facility they were using while the JCPOA was still in effect.

 

[jmotivator]

How do you propose Iran enrich Uranium without the equipment to do so?

Are you saying that Iran doesn't have the equipment to do so?

No, I mean enrichment facilities as in facilities where Iran could enrich Uranium, like what the word means.

Enrichment facilities include a a lot of different buildings and functions, not just Centrifuges.

 

[Logophile]

Iran is spending billions with no intent of building a bomb?! Someone needs to tell them that they're wasting money.

We spend billions on all kinds of stuff that aren't bombs

 

[Jredbaron96]

Are you saying that Iran doesn't have the equipment to do so?

Enrichment facilities include a a lot of different buildings and functions, not just Centrifuges.

My argument is that you never identified the secret facility where Iran was enriching Uranium while under the JCPOA outside of the IAEAs inspections, and the 2018 Israeli leaks didnt reveal one either, and neither did any of the links you posted did.

And the basic facts of how uranium enrichment works means the idea that Iran was doing so in a secret, undiscovered facility doesn't make any sense.

 

[Pyrite]

They appear to be doing just that. They weakened, if not effectively eliminated Hamas. Hezbollah is full of blind peckerless soldiers. Assad is chillin' with Putin. They are making it happen.

Offing Iranian leadership in the process is just a bonus.

But Israel cannot take out Fordow.

 

[NOLA Dude]

Grok summary of what Horton talked about in the interview:

In the interview on "Piers Morgan Uncensored," Scott Horton provides a detailed argument that Iran does not pose a nuclear threat, grounded in the specifics of the 2015 Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA). He explains that under this agreement, Iran was required to export all its enriched uranium to France, where it would be converted into fuel rods and returned for use in their reactor, effectively eliminating the plutonium route to developing a nuclear bomb. Horton emphasizes that Iran lacked the necessary facilities to reprocess plutonium into weapons-grade material, and the Russians were involved in removing plutonium from their reactor periodically.

Horton further details that the JCPOA imposed a one-year breakout period for Iran to enrich enough uranium to potentially make one bomb, but he stresses that this uranium would not be suitable for a warhead or deliverable via missile, rendering it more of a symbolic or test capability rather than a genuine threat. He references a 2007 CIA National Intelligence Estimate that concluded Iran had ceased all nuclear weapon design and weaponization work in 2003, a point he argues remains relevant despite the U.S. withdrawal from the JCPOA in 2018 under President Trump.

Horton suggests that Iran's subsequent actions, including enriching uranium up to 60%, were within the bounds of the JCPOA's allowances, especially given the U.S. breach of the deal. He posits that Iran's uranium enrichment is primarily a bargaining chip to negotiate the lifting of sanctions, not an indication of a desire to develop nuclear weapons. He criticizes the narrative pushed by figures like Trump and Israel, which he believes conflates Iran's nuclear program with an imminent weapons capability, a strategy he likens to past deceptions by the Bush administration regarding Iraq.

Horton also touches on the 2018 Mossad operation that obtained Iranian nuclear documents, implying it was part of a broader effort to misrepresent Iran's intentions. He argues that even if one accepts the premise of a preemptive war to prevent Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons, the intelligence does not support such a scenario, as Iran's program remained peaceful and under international monitoring, as confirmed by the IAEA and other assessments.

 

[Contumacious]

But Israel cannot take out Fordow.

Fordow does NOT need to be taken out.

THe Mossad wants the US to be co-belligerent.

 

[Contumacious]

My argument is that you never identified the secret facility where Iran was enriching Uranium while under the JCPOA outside of the IAEAs inspections, and the 2018 Israeli leaks didnt reveal one either, and neither did any of the links you posted did.

And the basic facts of how uranium enrichment works means the idea that Iran was doing so in a secret, undiscovered facility doesn't make any sense.

No only that Israel has REFUSED to subject itself to the IAEA's Jurisdiction while demanding that Iran does so. Ain't that some Shih-Tsu?

 

[Contumacious]

Probably because they want a bomb.

I'm not denying the possibility Iran is currently enriching Uranium. My point was doubt that Iran had a secret enrichment facility they were using while the JCPOA was still in effect.

Is Iran a sovereign independent country?

 

[Hamish Howl]

Is Iran a sovereign independent country?

Yes. They are a sovereign independent country that is getting the shit kicked out of them.

 

[Hamish Howl]

Fordow does NOT need to be taken out.

Yeah it does.

 

[Pyrite]

Fordow does NOT need to be taken out.

From what I've read, it does.

THe Mossad wants the US to be co-belligerent.

????

Not the Israeli Government?

 

[Contumacious]

I don't think tRump is going to send troops to Iran. But I can see him sending even more military aid to Israel. Why does Israel need our aid, anyway? It would be better spent going to Ukraine.

How about US Taxpayers holding on to THEIR money ?!?!?!?!?

 

[phoenix2020]

Actively building versus intent to build.

If they didn't intend to build a nuclear weapon they'd need to explain why they are pushing 60% Uranium enrichment levels when 3-5% enrichment is all that is needed for energy production.

I tend to agree.

That said, one note is that there are plenty of use cases for enriching to 20% - research reactors, generation of certain medical isotopes, higher temp compact reactors etc. But past 20% I don't believe there is a use case beyond nuclear weapons applications.

 

[Contumacious]

From what I've read, it does.

????

Not the Israeli Government?

MIT Professor Theodore Postol , Professor of Science, Technology and National Security Policy in the Program in Science, Technology, and Society at MIT.

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The Good Professor states that the "BUNKER BUSTER BOMB IS A DEFENSE CONTRACTOR MYTH


So the CIA/Mossad are lying - there is another reason they want the US Involved !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Contumacious]

I don't believe there is a use case beyond nuclear weapons applications.

Email Professor/Director Rafael Mariano Grossi and tell him that he is incompetent.

 

[Contumacious]

Yes. They are a sovereign independent country that is getting the shit kicked out of them.

Is that right?

Hummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

My sources tell me that Iran is doing a fine job remodeling TelAviv in to a fine modern Parking Lot

 

[The Brad Dad]

This IAEA assumption is like watching a student approach the school with a brief case, shouting "Death to my classmates!" and then opening the suitcase and pulling out a stock, upper and lower and a barrel for an assault rifle and thinking "Well, he's not putting them together so this is fine.."

I think this is more like watching the United States be lied to into yet another forever war by the same group of folks that brought us the last two.

 

[The Brad Dad]

No only that Israel has REFUSED to subject itself to the IAEA's Jurisdiction while demanding that Iran does so. Ain't that some Shih-Tsu?

One of the most insane propositions on the table is that everyone knows Israel has nukes, along with the backing of the greatest military power in the history of the world. Both countries are being led by despotic monsters who would absolutely burn down countries for votes. If I were Iran I’d be scrambling to get nukes too.

 

[Contumacious]

Except this time Iran does have some WMDs unlike Iraq. They do most definitely have chemical weapons.

If the US invaded and I was in charge of Iran’s defense, I would disperse the nerve agents to special forces units, wait for the US to occupy Iran, and then use the nerve agents against the occupying troops.

Bunker Busting The NeoCons:​

MAGADONIANS Want Nothing To Do With Another Forever War In The Middle East​

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[Pyrite]

Bunker Busting The NeoCons:​

MAGADONIANS Want Nothing To Do With Another Forever War In The Middle East​

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Posobiec has a history of promoting antisemitic and white supremacist ideology.

 

[Hamish Howl]

Is that right?

Hummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

My sources tell me that Iran is doing a fine job remodeling TelAviv in to a fine modern Parking Lot

Yeah, they managed to hit some high rise residential buildings. You must be very proud of the Iranians, as you must be very proud of the Russians.