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I would have never resigned.

MaggieD said:
I can't come up with any scenario in which I would have resigned my position as a cop in the Ferguson police department. I think it was a big mistake and can't imagine what went on behind the scenes to make this happen. Surely, unless wrong-doing is proven, no cop is left twisting in the wind to pay his own legal fees and answer to a criminal and civil trial without the help of his employer. If that's true, were I a law enforcement officer, I would resign immediately.

In real estate, one carries something called errors and omissions insurance whereby a Realtor will be protected and defended to the limits of the policy against noncriminal actions. Do cops have the same kind of coverage? Never heard of it myself.

A desk job, a paycheck and patience was the answer. Where's he going to get a job? I think he's ruined no matter WHAT happens.

Anyone have any speculation as to why Wilson did it?
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A lame attempt to quell the protesters.

And his wife is an officer also.
 
He should have done what that cop who mass pepper sprayed the protestors did. Make a disability claim that he is so psychologically upset by the ordeal that he is disabled and cannot work.

The dangers are far to great for him to stay as a police officer in that city.
 
MaggieD said:
Excellent points. Gotta' also love Milwaukee County Sheriff Clark for taking a stand. Gutsy:
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Milwaukee is the come-back kid of urban areas overall. Reviving the old districts into historic districts, law enforcement focused on law enforcement, property values of the inner city going up - rather than derelict.

The statement the sheriff made is one for the books. Well done. He'll go far. People recognize honesty and integrity.

People need to remember, too, that organizations like the Fraternal Order of Police - which has non-stop fund raising phone banks, is NOT a police organization. It is a police union.
 
disneydude said:
Money. He's got a huge bookdeal in the wings. With that...combined with the fact that it would be extremely difficult for him to continue as a cop working in Ferguson, its pretty clear why he would resign.
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Dream on. He won't make millions on a book deal. Rather, he'll be looking over his shoulder and worrying of his family the rest of his life.
 
ReverendHellh0und said:
Easy.


Book Deal


He'll be worth millions now.
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No, people said that about Zimmerman too. He'll suffer from this, including economically. It will follow him the rest of his life.
 
MaggieD said:
Desk job. The union's not going to pay his legal expenses if charges are brought Federally because he isn't a member any more. Same with a civil suit. My belief is that, if we want cops to put their lives-careers-futures on the line, we've got to protect them against this kind of crap. This guy's twisting in the wind.
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Personally, I don't expect cops to do anything more or less than what they're paid for.

If you want the job, take it, if you don't, don't.

We don't have any obligation to cops other than those outlined in their employment contract.
 
joko104 said:
Dream on. He won't make millions on a book deal. Rather, he'll be looking over his shoulder and worrying of his family the rest of his life.
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Oh Puh-lease. If you don't think he will make millions on a book deal you are naively fooling yourself. As for the second party, I agree. Its a huge price that he will pay.
 
soot said:
Personally, I don't expect cops to do anything more or less than what they're paid for.

If you want the job, take it, if you don't, don't.

We don't have any obligation to cops other than those outlined in their employment contract.
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Your anti-police message is again false. As much as you intensely hate cops, in fact they are entitled to all protections of employment laws like everyone else, NOT just their employment contract as you falsely claim.
 
soot said:
Personally, I don't expect cops to do anything more or less than what they're paid for.

If you want the job, take it, if you don't, don't.

We don't have any obligation to cops other than those outlined in their employment contract.
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Wrong. Being a cop - like being a teacher or being in the military - includes duties that go far beyond a contract. It's not just a job...and anyone who treats it as 'just a job' will never, ever truly do it well.
 
disneydude said:
Oh Puh-lease. If you don't think he will make millions on a book deal you are naively fooling yourself. As for the second party, I agree. Its a huge price that he will pay.
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Please link to the millions on a book deal Zimmerman made. Many like you on the forum claimed that too. Didn't happen, did it? Wont' happen for Officer Wilson either. Actually, he doesn't have much to write a book about anyway. He told his story for free already. Anything he wrote would be dead old news everyone read and heard for free already.

The silver lining of "millions on a book deal" you assert doesn't exist.
 
disneydude said:
Money. He's got a huge bookdeal in the wings.
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Link to your proof "he's got a huge bookdeal in the wings."

Or admit you that is false and that you just made it up.
 
Question....I saw on the news here when it happened, that the step-father(?) of Brown was screaming something about "Burn the bitch", meaning the town. Is he being charged with inciting a riot? Is he being charged for all the damage that was caused and being made to pay for it? Are any of the other rioters being charged and being made to pay for the damages? Having their wages docked for the rest of their lives to pay for the damage would be good. Is the step-father/father just going to get away with inciting the riot?

My heart goes out the police officer and his family. He did his job and is now a victim.
 
LadyMoonlight said:
Question....I saw on the news here when it happened, that the step-father(?) of Brown was screaming something about "Burn the bitch", meaning the town. Is he being charged with inciting a riot? Is he being charged for all the damage that was caused and being made to pay for it? Are any of the other rioters being charged and being made to pay for the damages? Having their wages docked for the rest of their lives to pay for the damage would be good. Is the step-father/father just going to get away with inciting the riot?

My heart goes out the police officer and his family. He did his job and is now a victim.
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Is a spontaneous act of grief a crime?

Brown's stepfather was voicing his anger and grief.
 
joko104 said:
Your anti-police message is again false. As much as you intensely hate cops, in fact they are entitled to all protections of employment laws like everyone else, NOT just their employment contract as you falsely claim.
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I don't hate cops at all.

I hate dirty cops and system that protects dirty cops.

And I think that such a system is pervasive across the entire law enforcement industry.

I think that cops play a necessary role in society (and while I believe that the scope of that role goes far beyond what is necessary or even good for society I don't blame cops for that).

When cops play that role with honor, integrity, and in a manner that is beyond reproach I have as much admiration for them as I do for those in any other career field or job.

I think the problem you have with me is that I don't go in for the sort of starry-eyed hero worship of cops that many in this country, especially many who consider themselves conservatives, do.

And I do agree with you about the employment law stuff, but my impression of the OP comments is that there was the suggestion that we have a greater obligation to police than we do to any other class of worker because the nature of a cop's job.
 
LadyMoonlight said:
Question....I saw on the news here when it happened, that the step-father(?) of Brown was screaming something about "Burn the bitch", meaning the town. Is he being charged with inciting a riot? Is he being charged for all the damage that was caused and being made to pay for it? Are any of the other rioters being charged and being made to pay for the damages? Having their wages docked for the rest of their lives to pay for the damage would be good. Is the step-father/father just going to get away with inciting the riot?
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after possibly allowing wilson to get away with murder they would instead try the (very stupid) step-father
talk about burning the place down

My heart goes out the police officer and his family. He did his job and is now a victim.
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maybe he was doing his job. but many view it that a cop murdered an 18 year old unarmed black guy
too bad a trial will not be conducted to allow all to see which version is correct
 
Unitedwestand13 said:
Is a spontaneous act of grief a crime?

Brown's stepfather was voicing his anger and grief.
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You think that makes it justified? I wouldn't voice my anger or grief in such a manner, probably neither would you or others here. I don't think it was a "spontaneous act of grief" either. It appeared to me to be more an act of revenge and an excuse to urge others to do the same. We shall agree to disagree I think.
 
soot said:
Personally, I don't expect cops to do anything more or less than what they're paid for.

If you want the job, take it, if you don't, don't.

We don't have any obligation to cops other than those outlined in their employment contract.
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I don't disagree with your last line. What I DO disagree with is they DON'T have those kinds of protections IN those contracts.
 
soot said:
Personally, I don't expect cops to do anything more or less than what they're paid for.

If you want the job, take it, if you don't, don't.

We don't have any obligation to cops other than those outlined in their employment contract.
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Do you feel the same way about teachers?
 
MaggieD said:
I can't come up with any scenario in which I would have resigned my position as a cop in the Ferguson police department. I think it was a big mistake and can't imagine what went on behind the scenes to make this happen. Surely, unless wrong-doing is proven, no cop is left twisting in the wind to pay his own legal fees and answer to a criminal and civil trial without the help of his employer. If that's true, were I a law enforcement officer, I would resign immediately.

In real estate, one carries something called errors and omissions insurance whereby a Realtor will be protected and defended to the limits of the policy against noncriminal actions. Do cops have the same kind of coverage? Never heard of it myself.

A desk job, a paycheck and patience was the answer. Where's he going to get a job? I think he's ruined no matter WHAT happens.

Anyone have any speculation as to why Wilson did it?
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I think it's a matter of practical reality. Like others have said, from this day forward he would have a target on his back. No one would ever give him the necessary consideration or respect necessary to do his job if he were on the beat again. Just being on the force in a desk job would be a source of contention and would potentially put his co-workers at risk. He'd/they'd be openly challenged... almost coerced or dared to do something rash... just to get him in trouble and it would never stop.

Sometimes you have to suck it up and do what's right for your family and your own safety. I don't blame him one bit. It sucks, but it's reality.
 
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