I want a Single-payer system too. You pay for your healthcare and i will pay for mine.I don't like the current ACA, but I don't want it replaced with a version which gives the AMA, Big Pharma, and the Insurance Industry even more money and control over healthcare.
IMO a national single payer program modeled after the best practices of other Western single payer plans, while addressing and correcting the ills of such plans is the best medicine for the people of the United States.
That is what we should ALL be demanding of our representatives in Congress and the White House.
We could start with simply reorganizing Medicare, Medicaid and whatever other programs we have at the Federal level into universal healthcare deducted from our payroll then build on it.
If you DO agree, please explain what YOU would like to see.
If you DO NOT agree, please explain why.
Dont fall for their orwellean tactics. They are not single payer advocates. Tjey are grou pay advocates with a progressive scale base.No. The government is big enough and my taxes are high enough. I do not want the government to have more influence over healthcare and I do not want to pay more for other peoples healthcare.
Hi Polgara *hug*
I agree that it's too early. A lot of Conservatives are complaining about the current proposal. And that's funny about your chihuahua! :lol: We got the winds too, and it flung my door open a few times as well and ripped the flagpole off of my house. A friend of mine had a bunch of shingles ripped off of his roof! :shock: I think it's dying down now.
I'm cool with a basic UHC funded by tax dollars, with the option to purchase supplemental, that covers the elastic things.
Ideally, I want a tax funded HDHP.
There are a few other things I think need serious reform like SSI, but that's largely a pet issue and there is no lobby for that.
What you said is very similar.
I'm curious how Canada and many European countries manage to provide universal health care to their citizens. Pardon my ignorance but it must be because either their medical costs are much lower or their taxes are through the roof.
Well "dude," I was merely using him as an example of how the impossible can become possible despite naysayers to the contrary.
I was not tooting HIS horn...only showing YOU that very little is truly impossible if people really want it to happen.
If you can't see that from a current and relevant example...that's on you. :shrug:
They also have the option to have the state funded portion deposited into a health savings account but not many do that to my understanding.
I don't like the current ACA, but I don't want it replaced with a version which gives the AMA, Big Pharma, and the Insurance Industry even more money and control over healthcare.
IMO a national single payer program modeled after the best practices of other Western single payer plans, while addressing and correcting the ills of such plans is the best medicine for the people of the United States.
That is what we should ALL be demanding of our representatives in Congress and the White House.
We could start with simply reorganizing Medicare, Medicaid and whatever other programs we have at the Federal level into universal healthcare deducted from our payroll then build on it.
If you DO agree, please explain what YOU would like to see.
If you DO NOT agree, please explain why.
No. The government is big enough and my taxes are high enough. I do not want the government to have more influence over healthcare and I do not want to pay more for other peoples healthcare.
The would be infinitely better than the others presented thus far.
The problem is that our lobby and interest groups prevent things like this from happening.
It's one of the serious faults of democratic based governments.
Short term political gain supersedes long term planning for the betterment of all.
Singapore is a decent example of a mix of quasi autocracy and democracy.
They've been largely a de facto single party state, thus allowing them to form long term legislation.
It's also part of their cultural history via Confucianism.
What if it was a flat tax on everyone?
What if it was a flat tax on everyone?
So the only solution is to let the government take it over?
They also don't give a **** about rights. That is the price you pay.
Let the government take over paying for it, sure. Don't worry though, the republicans are going to find a way to make Obamacare cost less for the wealthy, more for everyone else, and provide less care; I guarantee it.
If he doesn't want to pay for anyone else's healthcare, I don't think he understand's how insurance works.
If he doesn't want to pay for anyone else's healthcare, I don't think he understand's how insurance works.
Sort of.
Most governments don't really care about rights.
They're constantly testing to see what they can get away with, (see; Wikileaks).
Autocracies are just more transparent about it.
Just don't want the program period, so really it makes no difference. The fact is liberals tried to get this result since FDR and I refuse to give them what they want.
As a side note, I am always amazed when I see someone that is overweight, smokes, or has any chronic health conditions argue that they "want the government out of healthcare". Them not realizing of course that if there were no government involvment in healthcare, no one would even sell someone like them a health insurance policy.
Oh OK...so the paying for other people was a smoke screen?
Singapore not really, they like to pretend to have rights and a functioning democracy. They say that when journalists gets arrested and their electoral districts have exclaves. They have the Chinese love of authoritarianism.
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