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I pledge allegiance to donald trump and call myself a patriot.

What? Some made-up shit in your head?
Of course it is.


What's not made up it the stench of flop-sweat-laden fear the Left has of Trump and DeSantis.
 
Responsible right to responsible left in America have no fear of Trump or DeSantis.

We know now how to deal with them.
 
Is this possible in america?
No...but you could write a fiction novel about it. There's probably enough useful idiots out there for you to make a pile of money.
 
What? Some made-up shit in your head?
Of course it is.


What's not made up it the stench of flop-sweat-laden fear the Left has of Trump and DeSantis.
Why wouldn't they fear an ex president and possible future presidential contender who has tried to overturn a US election based solely on lie? A man who clearly puts himself above everything? Hell, everybody should be afraid of him.
 
Recognize that 'patriot' isn't that useful a word, as almost anything can be called 'patriot' to something. Were the founding fathers 'patriots' to the US, or traitors to England? And were loyalists 'patriots' to England or traitors to the revolutionaries? So trump traitors who are against so much of America's values like democracy, are 'patriots' to 'their tribe'.
 
Recognize that 'patriot' isn't that useful a word, as almost anything can be called 'patriot' to something. Were the founding fathers 'patriots' to the US, or traitors to England? And were loyalists 'patriots' to England or traitors to the revolutionaries? So trump traitors who are against so much of America's values like democracy, are 'patriots' to 'their tribe'.
I would call it patriotic to defend this country's elections from a psychopath like trump who would destroy them to stay in power.

But hey, that's just how I am.
 
Recognize that 'patriot' isn't that useful a word, as almost anything can be called 'patriot' to something. Were the founding fathers 'patriots' to the US, or traitors to England? And were loyalists 'patriots' to England or traitors to the revolutionaries? So trump traitors who are against so much of America's values like democracy, are 'patriots' to 'their tribe'.

It may not be THE most useful word, but it's a lot more useful than words like "libertarian" or "classical liberal" or "Green", or .... "unitary executive".
 
I would call it patriotic to defend this country's elections from a psychopath like trump who would destroy them to stay in power.
Of course we would. But my point is that they think THEY'RE the patriots, so our yelling about patriotism to them falls on deaf ears. That's my point, that one person's treason is another person's patriotism. When we see the Nazi country they want, we say 'treason', and they say 'patriotic victory'.
 
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It may not be THE most useful word, but it's a lot more useful than words like "libertarian" or "classical liberal" or "Green", or .... "unitary executive".
All of them are problematic. Patriot is arguably more harmful, because instead of just being a euphemism like unitary executive, it can motivate evil; imagine the crowd on 1/6 killing Pelosi in Pence, overthrowing the election - and saying how great of patriots they were for doing so.
 
All of them are problematic. Patriot is arguably more harmful, because instead of just being a euphemism like unitary executive, it can motivate evil; imagine the crowd on 1/6 killing Pelosi in Pence, overthrowing the election - and saying how great of patriots they were for doing so.

All I have to do is imagine what would have happened if these domestic terrorists had been successful in getting their hands on any member of Congress, or the VP, and managed to stall proceedings long enough for Trump to turn the right combination of "dials and switches" to finish implementing his coup.
 
Of course we would. But my point is that they think THEY'RE the patriots, so our yelling about patriotism to them false on deaf ears. That's my point, that one person's treason is another person's patriotism. When we see the Nazi country they want, we say 'treason', and they say 'patriotic victory'.

Your point is golden....unassailable.
 
Is this possible in America?
I sure hope not.

In 2016 and again in 2020, the Russian dictator, Vladimir Putin, wanted Trump to be our President. A test of Trump's loyalty came in July 2018 at Helsinki when Trump rejected American intelligence and accepted the statements from Putin.

Trump appears to act very much like a Russian agent?

NATO is a gun aimed directly at the heart of Russia. As President, Trump alienated our traditional allies, meaning members of NATO, and attempted friendship with the communist dictators of Russia, China, and North Korea.

As President, Trump destroyed the nuclear agreement with Iran, a devout enemy of our country, and, as a consequence, that enemy is very close to a nuclear weapon today.

Due to his poor performance as President, Trump was soundly beaten in the Presidential election in November 2020, clobbered by over seven million votes. Trump, without a shadow of evidence, claims he won by a landslide. He also lost 60 court decisions plus the Supreme Court and countless state audits. '

First in Georgia, and then by trying to wield presidential power to force the Justice Department to declare the election soiled by fraud where none existed, Trump sought to incite a coup to stay in office. When that failed, he called a mob to Washington, incited it with false claims of voter fraud, and then it invaded Congress, obliterating a peaceful transfer of power.

Adding to the evidence that Trump is doing the bidding of the Russian dictator, he has attempted to keep his tax returns a secret. There is no law that says a President must disclose his tax returns. Nonetheless, with the exception of Gerald Ford, who released a tax summary, every President from Nixon to Obama has released his full tax returns to the public. Incidentally, Ford was never elected President.

The tradition continues with Biden. Investopedia reports, "With the exception of Gerald Ford, who released a tax summary, every president from Nixon to Obama has released his full tax returns to the public.

Even now, as a private citizen, Trump wants to keep the information about his tax returns from the American people. The Pittsburgh Post-Gazette reports, "Former President Donald Trump's legal team formally stepped into a long-running fight over a U.S. House request for his tax returns, claiming Trump's financial history is being unfairly pursued by Democrats for political reasons and seeking to end House Ways and Means Committee investigations into the ex-president and his companies."

Does Trump have financial ties to Moscow? There are many factors that point to that conclusion, and none are denied by Trump's followers or Republican lawmakers.
 
Is this possible in america?

No, not possible. Trump is no patriot, he is a coward hiding behind those he can manipulate and/or get to throw their careers away for him.

Trump’s brand of White Nationalism is not patriotism at all, just organized prejudice under a lunatic of an authoritarian anti-Constitutional 1 term former President.
 
What? Some made-up shit in your head?
Of course it is.


What's not made up it the stench of flop-sweat-laden fear the Left has of Trump and DeSantis.
Funny how Americans oppose traitors...
 
No...but you could write a fiction novel about it. There's probably enough useful idiots out there for you to make a pile of money.
Just ask trump...

His big lie has made him more money than anything except ripping off family and banks....
 
All of them are problematic. Patriot is arguably more harmful, because instead of just being a euphemism like unitary executive, it can motivate evil; imagine the crowd on 1/6 killing Pelosi in Pence, overthrowing the election - and saying how great of patriots they were for doing so.
We were lucky that the joint Chiefs of staff expected the coup and were prepared to step in if it looked as if it was going anywhere.

The joint Chiefs were the true patriots.

They actually recognized Trump's coup and did not panic a d they just let him fail as is his way...
 
Of course we would. But my point is that they think THEY'RE the patriots, so our yelling about patriotism to them falls on deaf ears. That's my point, that one person's treason is another person's patriotism. When we see the Nazi country they want, we say 'treason', and they say 'patriotic victory'.
Sad but accurate...
 
Are you trying to compose a new pledge of allegiance?
Negative, I'm wondering how folks pledge their allegiance to trump and call themself a patriot. Remember the folks inside the capitol on 1/6 saying trump sent them and it was their house or have you forgotten?
 
I sure hope not.

In 2016 and again in 2020, the Russian dictator, Vladimir Putin, wanted Trump to be our President. A test of Trump's loyalty came in July 2018 at Helsinki when Trump rejected American intelligence and accepted the statements from Putin.

Trump appears to act very much like a Russian agent?

NATO is a gun aimed directly at the heart of Russia. As President, Trump alienated our traditional allies, meaning members of NATO, and attempted friendship with the communist dictators of Russia, China, and North Korea.

As President, Trump destroyed the nuclear agreement with Iran, a devout enemy of our country, and, as a consequence, that enemy is very close to a nuclear weapon today.

Due to his poor performance as President, Trump was soundly beaten in the Presidential election in November 2020, clobbered by over seven million votes. Trump, without a shadow of evidence, claims he won by a landslide. He also lost 60 court decisions plus the Supreme Court and countless state audits. '

Firstin Georgia,and then by trying to wield presidential power to force the Justice Department to declare the election soiled by fraud where none existed, Trump sought to incite a coup to stay in office. When that failed, he called a mob to Washington, incited it with false claims of voter fraud, and then it invaded Congress, obliterating a peaceful transfer of power.

Adding to the evidence that Trump is doing the bidding of the Russian dictator, he has attempted to keep his tax returns a secret. There is no law that says a President must disclose his tax returns. Nonetheless, with the exception of Gerald Ford, who released a tax summary, every President from Nixon to Obama has released his full tax returns to the public. Incidentally, Ford was never elected President.

The tradition continues with Biden. Investopedia reports, "With the exception of Gerald Ford, who released a tax summary, every president from Nixon to Obama has released his full tax returns to the public.

Even now, as a private citizen, Trump wants to keep the information about his tax returns from the American people. The Pittsburgh Post-Gazette reports, "Former President Donald Trump's legal team formally stepped into a long-running fight over a U.S. House request for his tax returns, claiming Trump's financial history is being unfairly pursued by Democrats for political reasons and seeking to end House Ways and Means Committee investigations into the ex-president and his companies."

Does Trump have financial ties to Moscow? There are many factors that point to that conclusion, and none are denied by Trump's followers or Republican lawmakers.
I think he also has financial ties in the middle east that he doesn't want exposed.
 
Negative, I'm wondering how folks pledge their allegiance to trump and call themself a patriot. Remember the folks inside the capitol on 1/6 saying trump sent them and it was their house or have you forgotten?
Well, it's not what he is, but what he represents, which is no more than being in Republican hands.

A delusion because look how terrible, look how inhuman, stupid and idiotic.
 
Well, it's not what he is, but what he represents, which is no more than being in Republican hands.

A delusion because look how terrible, look how inhuman, stupid and idiotic.
I'm trying my best to figure out your post.
 
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