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Rucker61 said:
You have no idea if the homeowner allowed guns or not. Why do you call that a fact?
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It is a fact. You gun nuts want to redefine a gun free zone. What liars. Ok I am redefining it too. There are none . Name one place where guns are not allowed
 
Rucker61 said:
You have no idea if the homeowner allowed guns or not. Why do you call that a fact?
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because the evidence is clear: you cannot find a fact with a search warrant that supports the stuff he spews. we do know that most of the big massacres were clearly in a gun free zone.

Aurora
Orlando gay night club
SandyHook
Fort Hood (yeah fort Hood)
Dylan Roof's shootings=the church banned CCW
Luby's Texas
the McDonalds in San Ysidro California
 
vegas giants said:
It is a fact. You gun nuts want to redefine a gun free zone. What liars. Ok I am redefining it too. There are none . Name one place where guns are not allowed
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The hospital I work at, the local post office, local police department, local government buildings, I can go on!
 
TurtleDude said:
because the evidence is clear: you cannot find a fact with a search warrant that supports the stuff he spews. we do know that most of the big massacres were clearly in a gun free zone.

Aurora
Orlando gay night club
SandyHook
Fort Hood (yeah fort Hood)
Dylan Roof's shootings=the church banned CCW
Luby's Texas
the McDonalds in San Ysidro California
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Nope none of those were gun free zones
 
JLee1977 said:
The hospital I work at, the local post office, local police department, local government buildings, I can go on!
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Cops can't carry guns there? What about federal agents? Nope its not a gun free zone
 
vegas giants said:
It is a fact. You gun nuts want to redefine a gun free zone. What liars. Ok I am redefining it too. There are none . Name one place where guns are not allowed
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"'When I use a word,' Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone, 'it means just what I choose it to mean — neither more nor less.'"

Lewis Carroll, Through The Looking Glass.
 
vegas giants said:
It is a fact. You gun nuts want to redefine a gun free zone. What liars. Ok I am redefining it too. There are none . Name one place where guns are not allowed
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the only one lying is not the people you call "gun nuts"

I define no guns allowed meaning private citizens cannot exercise CCW or open carry

not a place a cop can enter carrying

so

Newtown HS
the Luby's in Texas
The McDonalds in San Ysdro california
Aurora movie Theater
Gay Nightclub in Orlando
The black church Dylan Roof shot up
numerous other schools targeted by active shooters like VT
Fort Hood
 
vegas giants said:
Cops can't carry guns there? What about federal agents? Nope its not a gun free zone
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what a bit of dishonesty I knew you would pull that crap so I defined a gun free zone where the only person packing at the time the crime took place was the killer since all the victims were disarmed.
 
TurtleDude said:
the only one lying is not the people you call "gun nuts"

I define no guns allowed meaning private citizens cannot exercise CCW or open carry

not a place a cop can enter carrying

so

Newtown HS
the Luby's in Texas
The McDonalds in San Ysdro california
Aurora movie Theater
Gay Nightclub in Orlando
The black church Dylan Roof shot up
numerous other schools targeted by active shooters like VT
Fort Hood
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So a private citizen can carry at a home
 
JLee1977 said:
The hospital I work at, the local post office, local police department, local government buildings, I can go on!
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He lied and pretended if armed LEOs can go into the area after the shooting, it was not a gun free zone. NEXT he will claim that since the killer had a gun, it was not a gun free zone. Its the sort of dishonest redefining of terms we often see from the gun banners
 
vegas giants said:
So a private citizen can carry at a home
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irrelevant and not necessarily. You couldn't carry in DC in your home legally, nor in Chicago or Morton Grove. You might be unable to own a firearm as well.
 
TurtleDude said:
what a bit of dishonesty I knew you would pull that crap so I defined a gun free zone where the only person packing at the time the crime took place was the killer since all the victims were disarmed.
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But the victims all could have been armed in Plano Texas. Nothing was stopping them. And here


On Aug. 8, David Conley allegedly broke into his ex-girlfriend Valerie Jackson’s house in Houston, Texas, and killed her, her husband and her six children, methodically shooting each one in the head.*Jackson had recently dumped Conley and reunited with her husband after Conley allegedly*smashed her head into a refrigerator.
 
TurtleDude said:
He lied and pretended if armed LEOs can go into the area after the shooting, it was not a gun free zone. NEXT he will claim that since the killer had a gun, it was not a gun free zone. Its the sort of dishonest redefining of terms we often see from the gun banners
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And it is a lie that a home is a gun free zone. A home is the most likely place for a mass shooting.....and guns are allowed there
 
Rucker61 said:
I can't prove that she did, you can't prove that she allowed guns, so it's not a "fact" at all.
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Yep its a fact. Your claim that all the mass shootings in homes were in homes that did not allow guns is stupid and you know it
 
vegas giants said:
I did answer. Plano Texas. Not a gun free zone. Fact.
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Facts of your claim!

1. Not covered by national media!

2. Main victim had several anti-gun "likes" on her FB page

3. Other victims were unarmed, only confirming the main victims plausible gun free stance.
 
JLee1977 said:
Facts of your claim!

1. Not covered by national media!

2. Main victim had several anti-gun "likes" on her FB page

3. Other victims were unarmed, only confirming the main victims plausible gun free stance.
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Are you crazy? The national media? What possible reason would that matter? Holy cow!
 
vegas giants said:
Yep its a fact. Your claim that all the mass shootings in homes were in homes that did not allow guns is stupid and you know it
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In fact, it's so stupid that I really never even said that. We were discussing a single shooting - the recent one in Plano - where you posted "I did answer. Plano Texas. Not a gun free zone. Fact." in post #675. I replied, "You have no idea if the homeowner allowed guns or not. Why do you call that a fact?" in post #676.

Are you privy to knowledge that the homeowner welcomed an armed ex-husband into her home that's not been made public?
 
Rucker61 said:
In fact, it's so stupid that I really never even said that. We were discussing a single shooting - the recent one in Plano - where you posted "I did answer. Plano Texas. Not a gun free zone. Fact." in post #675. I replied, "You have no idea if the homeowner allowed guns or not. Why do you call that a fact?" in post #676.

Are you privy to knowledge that the homeowner welcomed an armed ex-husband into her home that's not been made public?
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Stop with these moronic posts. 70 percent of mass shootings occur at home. You guys are being laughably ridiculous. LOL

We're Missing The Big Picture On Mass Shootings | HuffPost
 
vegas giants said:
Nope none of those were gun free zones
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stop lying; claiming because armed cops could go into them AFTER the shooting is idiotic and consistent with the other lies you have told. It is a gun free zone if the victims cannot bring firearms legally into the area.
 
TurtleDude said:
stop lying; claiming because armed cops could go into them AFTER the shooting is idiotic and consistent with the other lies you have told. It is a gun free zone if the victims cannot bring firearms legally into the area.
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Then quit lying about homes being gun free zones. It is laughably stupid
 
vegas giants said:
But the victims all could have been armed in Plano Texas. Nothing was stopping them. And here


On Aug. 8, David Conley allegedly broke into his ex-girlfriend Valerie Jackson’s house in Houston, Texas, and killed her, her husband and her six children, methodically shooting each one in the head.*Jackson had recently dumped Conley and reunited with her husband after Conley allegedly*smashed her head into a refrigerator.
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so what? the big time active shooting massacres

Sandyhook
Gay night club
San Ysdro McDonalds
Virginia Tech
Aurora Colorado
Luby's Texas

were all areas where none of the victims were able to legally pack a firearm

we have no idea if the people were able to pack in that home but apparently they didn't. maybe the killer knew that
 
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