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I just can't listen to the lies anymore

dseag2

dseag2

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Never mind Trump, who lies every time he talks. I saw a clip of Mike Huckabee interviewed after his trip to Gaza. He flat-out lied about the fact that Gazans aren't being killed by Israelis at aid stations. Of course, he blamed it on Hamas. I just fast forwarded the clip after that statement. RePubes just lie about everything when anyone with half a brain can see right through it. There are a lot of stupid, gullible people out there. It's scary that we're living amongst them.
 
dseag2 said:
Never mind Trump, who lies every time he talks. I saw a clip of Mike Huckabee interviewed after his trip to Gaza. He flat-out lied about the fact that Gazans aren't being killed by Israelis at aid stations. Of course, he blamed it on Hamas. I just fast forwarded the clip after that statement. RePubes just lie about everything when anyone with half a brain can see right through it. There are a lot of stupid, gullible people out there. It's scary that we're living amongst them.
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I'm wondering if you are anti something. I mean youj seem to hate Israel, hate republicans, you actually seem to trust what Hamas is saying and that's pretty sad.
 
dseag2 said:
Never mind Trump, who lies every time he talks. I saw a clip of Mike Huckabee interviewed after his trip to Gaza. He flat-out lied about the fact that Gazans aren't being killed by Israelis at aid stations. Of course, he blamed it on Hamas. I just fast forwarded the clip after that statement. RePubes just lie about everything when anyone with half a brain can see right through it. There are a lot of stupid, gullible people out there. It's scary that we're living amongst them.
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I don't think even the gullible think anything the admin. says is the truth, but it's OK as long as it's their guy.
 
Integrityrespec said:
I'm wondering if you are anti something. I mean youj seem to hate Israel, hate republicans, you actually seem to trust what Hamas is saying and that's pretty sad.
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Are you uncomfortable with people you can't put into a neat box?
 
dseag2 said:
Never mind Trump, who lies every time he talks. I saw a clip of Mike Huckabee interviewed after his trip to Gaza. He flat-out lied about the fact that Gazans aren't being killed by Israelis at aid stations. Of course, he blamed it on Hamas. I just fast forwarded the clip after that statement. RePubes just lie about everything when anyone with half a brain can see right through it. There are a lot of stupid, gullible people out there. It's scary that we're living amongst them.
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He ain't going where he thinks is when he greets St. Peter.
 
dseag2 said:
Never mind Trump, who lies every time he talks. I saw a clip of Mike Huckabee interviewed after his trip to Gaza. He flat-out lied about the fact that Gazans aren't being killed by Israelis at aid stations. Of course, he blamed it on Hamas. I just fast forwarded the clip after that statement. RePubes just lie about everything when anyone with half a brain can see right through it. There are a lot of stupid, gullible people out there. It's scary that we're living amongst them.
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LOL...

Gangs are attacking aid stations, stealing the food and supplies, and selling it at exuberant prices on the black market.

Do some googling.

Hamas is also stealing the aide.
 
dseag2 said:
Never mind Trump, who lies every time he talks. I saw a clip of Mike Huckabee interviewed after his trip to Gaza. He flat-out lied about the fact that Gazans aren't being killed by Israelis at aid stations. Of course, he blamed it on Hamas. I just fast forwarded the clip after that statement. RePubes just lie about everything when anyone with half a brain can see right through it. There are a lot of stupid, gullible people out there. It's scary that we're living amongst them.
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Mike Huckabee’s been a lying, hypocritical scumbag since long before Traitor Trump entered politics.
 
Integrityrespec said:
I'm wondering if you are anti something. I mean youj seem to hate Israel, hate republicans, you actually seem to trust what Hamas is saying and that's pretty sad.
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The Government of Israel has slaughtered 60,000 civilians trapped in Gaza.

If you want to try to refute this fact, do so by copying and pasting numerous excerpts from credible sources to which you provide the links.
 
Lord of Planar said:
LOL...

Gangs are attacking aid stations, stealing the food and supplies, and selling it at exuberant prices on the black market.

Do some googling.

Hamas is also stealing the aide.
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In the last 22 months, the Government of Israel has slaughtered 60,000 civilians trapped in Gaza.

If you want to try to prove this is untrue, go for it: copy and paste numerous excerpts from credible sources to which you provide the links.
 
Mike Huckabee just repeats what others have told him. If you really want to know what's going on you need first hand knowledge.
 
Pyrite said:
In the last 22 months, the Government of Israel has slaughtered 60,000 civilians trapped in Gaza.

If you want to try to prove this is untrue, go for it: copy and paste numerous excerpts from credible sources to which you provide the links.
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I doubt those numbers are correct, but that is hard to determine. Propaganda is high.

War is not a clean business. Collateral damage happens, and none of this would have occurred if Hamas and others would stop attacking Israel.
 
Craig234 said:
The number is very likely over 200,000.
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It could be. So get Hamas to stop attacking Israel and stop using the people as human shields. Get them to stop stealing relief aide.

Hamas is the problem. Not Israel.
 
dseag2 said:
Never mind Trump, who lies every time he talks. I saw a clip of Mike Huckabee interviewed after his trip to Gaza. He flat-out lied about the fact that Gazans aren't being killed by Israelis at aid stations. Of course, he blamed it on Hamas. I just fast forwarded the clip after that statement. RePubes just lie about everything when anyone with half a brain can see right through it. There are a lot of stupid, gullible people out there. It's scary that we're living amongst them.
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You can see what's happening? I doubt it. I think you're seeing what Hamas and the compliant legacy want you to see.
 
Lord of Planar said:
I doubt those numbers are correct, but that is hard to determine. Propaganda is high.

War is not a clean business. Collateral damage happens, and none of this would have occurred if Hamas and others would stop attacking Israel.
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The numbers are likely an undercount, according to international aid groups, given the fact that bodies not yet found underneath the rubble have yet to be accounted for.

The slaughter of 60,000 (and COUNTING) civilians is not mere "collateral damage". It's a deliberate war crime, especially when you factor in the Israeli Government's use of starvation. And forced displacement.

These are facts, @Lord of Planar.

Also fact: Netanyahu et al are chronological adults who, while obviously cruel and stupid, are, nonetheless, compos mentis. This means what we all know: the current Government of Israel makes its own decisions. No one is forcing them to conduct this war in the manner it has been and is continuing to do so. The Israeli Government, not Hamas, is responsible and accountable for what it does.

Keep in mind what parents around the world try to instill in their children: personal responsibility and accountability. This applies as well to governments, no matter how inconvenient.
 
dmpi said:
Mike Huckabee just repeats what others have told him. If you really want to know what's going on you need first hand knowledge.
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Unfortunately for accuracy and the truth, the Government of Israel has not allowed international reporters to have access to Gaza and to Palestinians.

However, aid organizations have a damn good idea of what's going on there.

Re the fatality figures: the stats issued by the Gaza Health Authority have been confirmed in past confrontations with the Israeli Government. There is no reason to assume (or even to hope) that its numbers are not reliable this time around.
 
Ganondagan said:
You can see what's happening? I doubt it. I think you're seeing what Hamas and the compliant legacy want you to see.
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The Gaza Health Authority's stats are reliable. As are the figures and accounts provided by aid organizations.

However, if you want to try to prove that c. 60,000 Gazan Palestinians have not been killed in the last 22 months by the Israeli Government, go for it: copy and paste numerous excerpts from credible sources to which you provide the links.
 
Pyrite said:
The numbers are likely an undercount, according to international aid groups, given the fact that bodies not yet found underneath the rubble have yet to be accounted for.

The slaughter of 60,000 (and COUNTING) civilians is not mere "collateral damage". It's a deliberate war crime, especially when you factor in the Israeli Government's use of starvation. And forced displacement.

These are facts, @Lord of Planar.

Also fact: Netanyahu et al are chronological adults who, while obviously cruel and stupid, are, nonetheless, compos mentis. This means what we all know: the current Government of Israel makes its own decisions. No one is forcing them to conduct this war in the manner it has been and is continuing to do so. The Israeli Government, not Hamas, is responsible and accountable for what it does.

Keep in mind what parents around the world try to instill in their children: personal responsibility and accountability. This applies as well to governments, no matter how inconvenient.
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I see the but Hamas crew is out in force. Apparently they think Hamas controls Gaza.
 
dseag2 said:
Never mind Trump, who lies every time he talks. I saw a clip of Mike Huckabee interviewed after his trip to Gaza. He flat-out lied about the fact that Gazans aren't being killed by Israelis at aid stations. Of course, he blamed it on Hamas. I just fast forwarded the clip after that statement. RePubes just lie about everything when anyone with half a brain can see right through it. There are a lot of stupid, gullible people out there. It's scary that we're living amongst them.
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It's not just the Republican lies. It's the people who swallow all the lies.
 
Ganondagan said:
You can see what's happening? I doubt it. I think you're seeing what Hamas and the compliant legacy want you to see.
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Think just about everyone sees what's happening including Trump. Amazingly, Trump still comes off as an asshole in this clip eventhough he acknowledges starvation is happening.

 
Pyrite said:
Unfortunately for accuracy and the truth, the Government of Israel has not allowed international reporters to have access to Gaza and to Palestinians.

However, aid organizations have a damn good idea of what's going on there.

Re the fatality figures: the stats issued by the Gaza Health Authority have been confirmed in past confrontations with the Israeli Government. There is no reason to assume (or even to hope) that its numbers are not reliable this time around.
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Aid workers are just stooges for Hamas. Both sides lie. Unless you're there there's no way of knowing.
 
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