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I have one word for Trumpers

Bullseye said:
How then do you explain the battles they went through choosing a new Speaker? How many Senate votes were settled as straight party vote. Facts are getting in the way of your LW BS.
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Democrats wouldn't be concerned with who they want for Republican leadership...that is up to Republicans.
 
Bullseye said:
LOL, ironic, then that getting rid of It was top of the Senate Dems if they got the majority, huh? Be careful what you wish for. :cool:
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you better get busy if you are going to deport 20 million people in 2 years....I suggest we institute forced labor on social security recipients....you need to work for that check you get from the gubmit....so, go pick them peaches willy. Your reward...you get to keep your SSDI.
 
ClaraD said:
you better get busy if you are going to deport 20 million people in 2 years....I suggest we institute forced labor on social security recipients....you need to work for that check you get from the gubmit....so, go pick them peaches willy. Your reward...you get to keep your SSDI.
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Get over your election agonies. 😭
 
Bullseye said:
Get over your election agonies. 😭
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Why are you upset that I am telling you to get busy on what you voted for....we are all waiting...wtf are you waiting for? Get out there and also back a mandatory job program for anyone without a job...in a wheelchair, who the **** cares...go get that cotton picked or go to jail....you're 10 years old you say? Don't need no damn school go cut them tomatoes...oh and you...no you cannot be a doctor anymore...we need you to milk the cows...
Oh, you are too old to build houses? Too bad old man....get to building or we cut your check..and take your medicare...next is giving you a book that entitles you to 2 lbs of rice a month along with a pound of sugar and a brick of cheese.
 
Fletch said:
There is really only one ideological battle--Individualism v collectivism. Societies based upon the principles of individualism accept the basic premise that society is subservient to the individual. My rights trump the needs of others or the demands of the state Once you accept collectivism as the basis for your form of government, the left right divide is between fascists on the right and communists on the left. Both place society over the individual and your soul belongs either to the Fatherland or the Motherland, but not to you. There is no real difference between living under a fascist dictatorship or a communist one because in either case, you have no real rights of your own. You are merely a cog in the wheel of the state.
Look at modern China. They call themselves communists but they really arent. They are more fascist than anything else. And the transition from communism to fascism was seamless. Why? Because they are two sides of the same collectivist coin.
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Nothing to argue with here.

But Socialism is associated with the left, not the right, and Nazi is an abbreviation which includes Socialists in the name, so the Nazi party is from the left, not the right. Just seems like every time the term Nazi is used, it is wrongly applied to, or implying, the right, and that doesn't stack up.
 
eohrnberger said:
Nothing to argue with here.

But Socialism is associated with the left, not the right, and Nazi is an abbreviation which includes Socialists in the name, so the Nazi party is from the left, not the right. Just seems like every time the term Nazi is used, it is wrongly applied to, or implying, the right, and that doesn't stack up.
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Nazis are fascists, not socialists.
 
Fletch said:
What a load of crap. The only independent thinkers in the last democrat congress were Manchin and Sinema. Every other Borg liberal fell right into line behind anything the party bosses demanded.
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thank you for making the point for me.

They were some that didn't part line but no Maga jumped of the pedophile serial rapist Trump bus.

Thanks again for confirming my point

Diving Mullah
 
Diving Mullah said:
thank you for making the point for me.

They were some that didn't part line but no Maga jumped of the pedophile serial rapist Trump bus.

Thanks again for confirming my point

Diving Mullah
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Your point was crap and largely projection. They arent referred to as lock step liberals for nuthin. Pelosi could get house dems to do whatever she wanted no matter how small her majority and only two senators bucked the party. Both of whom left the democrat party before exiting the senate. You cant name a single, independent thinker in congress on the left.
 
ClaraD said:
Nazis are fascists, not socialists.
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You are incorrect in that. You are conflating two different political spectrums. It is as Fletch described in post #124.

Antonyms for socialist include capitalist, conservative, tycoon, moneybags, plutocrat, magnate, have, money, financier and investor.​

Fletch said:
Nazi--National Socialists workers party
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Yup.

The official definition being:

The Nazi Party,https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_Party#cite_note-11 officially the National Socialist German Workers' Party (German: Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei [c] or NSDAP)​

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Nazi Party - Wikipedia

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phoenix2020 said:
I disagree. Donald Trump has been crystal clear about who he is and what he wants to do. And, he won, fair and square, so this is in fact what people voted for. They voted for the DOE to be shutdown, probably abruptly. They voted for Muslims being banned from entering the country. They voted for the ACA to be turn down and replaced with nothing. They voted for tens of millions to be incarcerated in deportation camps. Now, they'll get what they voted for, and they get to live with the results.
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I saw a post with people not realizing what he planned to do. It was within an autism group.

I'm telling you this isn't what they want.
They want to economy fixed, and not a repeat of the last four years.

Their ignorance is what caused this. It's not everyone but a lot
 
Plasmaball said:
I saw a post with people not realizing what he planned to do. It was within an autism group.

I'm telling you this isn't what they want.
They want to economy fixed, and not a repeat of the last four years.

Their ignorance is what caused this. It's not everyone but a lot
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That would be very unfortunate.

I hope they at least realize that this is their fault, and learn from it for the next cycle.
 
Fletch said:
Its a lie. Trump is not a fascist. People who claim he is are either lying or just ignorant of the nature of fascism. If you fall in the latter camp, so be it, but falling in the former camp wouldnt be out of character
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Could not agree with this more.

And I suppose the exaggeration that is constantly in play on BOTH sides can work somewhat to make the choir frisky and scare the people in the middle.
 
In the spirit of bipartisanship, I call for the Republicans to heed the calls of the Democrats and kill the filibuster and pass Ron Wyden's bill to expand SCOTUS to 15 judges.

www.nbcnews.com

Democrats gear up to overhaul the Senate filibuster for major bills if they win in 2024

Sens. Manchin and Sinema are retiring. The remaining Democrats — and candidates running to hold the majority — favor overhauling the rule that requires 60 votes to pass most bills.
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nota bene said:
Being gracious losers and good sports would help.
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True...

But isn't it a little odd to be saying that if you support Trump who 110% didn't do that in 2020 and has lied ever since that it was fraud... Which there's never been a shred of evidence of?
 
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