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"I Don't Know" - Trump (3 Viewers)

Girlpower said:
It's becoming better.
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No it's not.

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Girlpower said:
Trump is fixing what you liberals were destroying.
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Is THIS what Trump is trying to "fix"? As of the end of Biden's term:


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The US economy is crushing it compared to other rich countries

US economic growth beat expectations in the fourth quarter, and it's outpacing most of the world's wealthiest countries.
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Average wages have surpassed inflation for 12 straight months

Average hourly wage growth has exceeded inflation for 12 straight months, according to new Bureau of Labor Statistics data released this morning. This real (or inflation-adjusted) wage growth is a key indicator of how well the average worker’s wage can improve their standard of living. As...
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virginiamercury.com

States see record low unemployment across the U.S. • Virginia Mercury

Virginia's unemployment rate dropped to 3.1% in April, when the state also recorded its highest labor force participation rate since June 2014.
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It’s official: 2024’s holiday travel season was the busiest ever recorded

Those who were at the airport in recent weeks felt it, and the numbers back it up: 2024’s holiday travel season was the busiest on record. That information came on Friday by way of the TSA, which made the claim on social media. The TSA said that nearly 39 million individuals were screened by...
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www.bu.edu

Has the US Hit the “Soft Landing” of Controlling Inflation without a Recession?

Not yet, but we’ve done surprisingly well, BU economist Adam Guren says
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Why your 401(k) is happy: Dow hit new record Wednesday, and stocks are still climbing

The Dow Jones Industrial Average hit a record high Wednesday after the Federal Reserve said interest rates may go down in 2024.
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www.pewresearch.org

America’s Image Abroad Rebounds With Transition From Trump to Biden

A new survey of 16 publics finds a significant uptick in ratings for the U.S., with strong support for Joe Biden and several of his major policy initiatives. But many raise concerns about the health of America’s political system.
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Peter said:
Are you ok with legal Americans being deported if you think it helps solve the illegal imigration problem?
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No but you also have to realize that any massive undertaking will have mistakes made.

That's like asking if a person is ok with some military deaths from accidents when they go to war.

Should we get rid of prisons because some innocent people are sent to them?
 
Hip octogenarian said:
And because of that, he has destroyed the Constitution and caused prices of produce to skyrocket because of a shortage of farm workers. Instead of deporting good, hardworking people, we should just make them legal. It would save millions in tax dollars and would be a boon to our economy.
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When does making good hard working people citizens become too many for us?

Would you want 100 million more of them?

What about 200 million more?

Imagine how good our economy would be then.
 
Girlpower said:
No but you also have to realize that any massive undertaking will have mistakes made.

That's like asking if a person is ok with some military deaths from accidents when they go to war.

Should we get rid of prisons because some innocent people are sent to them?
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The mistakes have been bloody obvious and not rectified.
 
Girlpower said:
When does making good hard working people citizens become too many for us?

Would you want 100 million more of them?

What about 200 million more?

Imagine how good our economy would be then.
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We can take in a whole lot more people. They help the economy. They revive older cities by bringing in new residents and exciting new ideas. Our country was built by immigrants, some of whom were forced here against their will, and is kept alive and vital because of immigrants. I will also add that the birthrate in the US has fallen, so new residents are needed to keep numbers up. If it ever actually happened that we really were at capacity, we could take necessary steps at that time. But that won't happen in the foreseeable future.
 
Girlpower said:
No but you also have to realize that any massive undertaking will have mistakes made.

That's like asking if a person is ok with some military deaths from accidents when they go to war.

Should we get rid of prisons because some innocent people are sent to them?
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We should get rid of for profit prisons, so that there is no incentive to keep them full.
 
Im sure this can be ended peacefully anyday now….
 
Hip octogenarian said:
We should get rid of for profit prisons, so that there is no incentive to keep them full.
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No incentive needed to keep them full since there are more people committing crimes than they can house.
 
Hip octogenarian said:
We can take in a whole lot more people. They help the economy. They revive older cities by bringing in new residents and exciting new ideas. Our country was built by immigrants, some of whom were forced here against their will, and is kept alive and vital because of immigrants. I will also add that the birthrate in the US has fallen, so new residents are needed to keep numbers up. If it ever actually happened that we really were at capacity, we could take necessary steps at that time. But that won't happen in the foreseeable future.
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How many more can we take in?

There has to be a cutoff point somewhere.
 
Peter said:
The mistakes have been bloody obvious and not rectified.
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Are the mistakes worth going back to how it was before?

How many fewer children have been raped and killed because immigration plummeted?

Or were those just acceptable causalities to you?
 
Girlpower said:
Are the mistakes worth going back to how it was before?

How many fewer children have been raped and killed because immigration plummeted?

Or were those just acceptable causalities to you?
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You can't make such claims and say you have certainty that such crimes would happen.

Yes the mistakes are bad enough to not go down this authoritarian road.
There are other ways to solve the problem.
 
Peter said:
You can't make such claims and say you have certainty that such crimes would happen.

Yes the mistakes are bad enough to not go down this authoritarian road.
There are other ways to solve the problem.
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So you are putting forth the argument that it's possible no illegal immigrants will commit crimes in the future?

Really?

We have a big enough problem with our own citizens committing crimes without adding to it when we don't need to.

There is a process for someone to become a legal citizen and it should be followed. Your belief that we should just let everyone in is foolhardy.
 
Girlpower said:
So you are putting forth the argument that it's possible no illegal immigrants will commit crimes in the future?

Really?

We have a big enough problem with our own citizens committing crimes without adding to it when we don't need to.

There is a process for someone to become a legal citizen and it should be followed. Your belief that we should just let everyone in is foolhardy.
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So, you think it's ok that Trump is turning the US into an authoritarian nightmare to protect you from possible crimes?

I never once said I'd let everyone in so I'm unsure what gave that idea.
You can continue to make unfounded claims and throw insults at me for no reason if you like though but it's not helping your argument.
 
soap box said:
He couldn't say "YES".

Wild horses couldn't drag him away to say "YES".

He didn't even attempt a "yes, but..."

He's phoning it in and he doesn't care. He went on to explain that his very smart lawyers would save his sorry butt.
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Those who voted for trump don't care that he's "phoning it in".
 
Peter said:
So, you think it's ok that Trump is turning the US into an authoritarian nightmare to protect you from possible crimes?

I never once said I'd let everyone in so I'm unsure what gave that idea.
You can continue to make unfounded claims and throw insults at me for no reason if you like though but it's not helping your argument.
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Then what is wrong with them using the established system to become a legal immigrant?

Why are you against that?
 
Girlpower said:
When does making good hard working people citizens become too many for us?

Would you want 100 million more of them?

What about 200 million more?

Imagine how good our economy would be then.
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You know zero about capitalism do you?

How sad.

You probably claim to favor capitalism as a knee jerk thing but you dont understand it all do you?
 
Girlpower said:
Then what is wrong with them using the established system to become a legal immigrant?

Why are you against that?
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I'm not against that.
What I am against is Trumps heavy handed tactics that don't need to be implemented.
 
Girlpower said:
Then what is wrong with them using the established system to become a legal immigrant?
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Its badly broken

Doesn't come close to meeting the needs of the US economy.

fact: the us economy needs their labor now, not in a decade or two.

fact: the legal immigration system takes decades does not allow them to come now.

reality:

american business needs their labor. They need jobs. The legal immigration system fails both parties.

they come anyway. Contribute. Etc
Girlpower said:
Why are you against that?
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Because it's broken.

Why are you against streamlining it so that it takes days not decades?
 
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If it can take someone as high profile as John Oliver almost a decade to become a US citizen I dread to think how long it would take someone from a much less favourable nation than the UK.
 
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