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I’m hoping, and I still have hope, that it’s simply that you just don’t get it.

No, that is the point and that is far and away the biggest, worst, and most invasive form of bad/wrong/evil/unethical we've seen to date.
Made up nonsense that you get your opinion from bad faith actors who would step over you if you were dying in the streets.

You are being used by these people to vote against your own interests, but on the flip side enjoy the pain as it comes. I have zero sympathy for people who believe whole cloth in liars.
 
Please tell the class what unethical and evil, these people did. Details matter. I'd like to compare lists.
Its a waste of time. People like her dont deserve a seat at the table to discuss issues.
 
You do know there are other Amendments that are just as important right?
If the Democrats were to try to violate other amendments as well, that would make it even more important that Mr. Trump protect us from them.
 
People need to be arrested after all this if we have a nation left.
Investigations need to be done to find out what and who are bot farms. Then you pull the plugs on them..
The tech bros via trump have been shown they will bend the knee. Time to make them bend the other way. Worst case you seize everything and install someone more ethical.

Maga wants to break everything that doesnt effect them. Well its time to crack eggs.

This is how the dems need to start acting. You need to figuratively "crack some skulls".
 
It’s been just over 6 months. If you’re that obsessed with him this is your Vietnam years to go yet.
 
{sigh} It is a matter of public record. Look it up. $29 Million to over 6000 victims. I said that if you or I had done the same thing WE would have been criminally charged. Same if WE had run a bogus charity. If WE had cheated banks and insurers out of hundreds of millions we would be doing VERY long stints in federal prison. Yet Trump walks between the raindrops.
Um, settling a lawsuit is not proof, nor admission of guilt.

I thought you cared about facts?

So where is the proof he committed crimes?
Bogus. I point to the evidence. It is all documented in the public account of the unfolding of the actions being discussed. In black and while, in court documents, the transcripts, interrogatory and all other manner of documentation that makes up the vast public record on Donald J Trump.
This is conspiracy theory nonsense. If this actually was good evidence of guilt he would have been charged.

He has not been charged with a crime nor admitted any wrong doing.
Its not like this guy hasn't lived a VERY public life.




Yeah, folks always going around paying out hundreds of millions of dollars because they've done nothing wrong. {LOL}
Yea like juties have never awarded damages out of emotions I stead of facts and law. And companies have never settled lawsuits even knowing they did nothing wrong lol
No, they pay hundreds of millions in settlements when they know that fighting it to the end would cost them billions instead.
Well sure it it might, thst doesn't necessarily mean they did anything wrong.

Juries sometimes like punishing the "big evil corperations" and passing out money to the lowly every man.
 
Not at all.
Then why do you like Neocons?
I keep telling you I am a classic fiscal conservative and moderate social politics.
When you lie and lie and lie over and over I don't trust you
I have no desire for nation building, etc. You truly don't pay close attention. 😉
You're just parroting CNN talking points. I've heard how you people lie about this present absolutely nothing to support your claims and say everybody else is in a cult for not believing what is clearly a lie.

I don't pay attention to trash posts. Sorry.
Truly? You think that which is supported by the pubic record is "delusional"?

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Yes people in large numbers can believe stupid things. Popularity doesn't equal reality.
 
To the op and everyone else dont even ask for evidence when they change the subject. Dont let them change the damn subject and only focus on Trump.
 
I have stated a good deal about accomplishments.
He has 4 1/2 years in office, and you gave not a single word about his time in the Oval Office..

Trump has accomplished hundreds of millions in crypto fraud while in office. He has also accomplished billions in backroom quid pro quo real estate deals with foreign Princes with the weight of they Oval Office behind him. I point out that the character and the ethicacy of the person makes vast difference with the policy emanating from the person. Especially at points where the rubber truly meets the road, like in a crisis. When the right thing is what is best for everyone concerned. the bad person will choose what it right for themselves and the expense of everyone else.
Trade, economic policy, foreign policy???

We can count on Trump to do precisely that, I promise you.
He has a history of delivering on his promises.

I ask again, can you separate the person from the policy?
 
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He has a history of delivering on his promises.
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No, trump does NOT "have a history of delivering on his promises":

The wall? And Mexico's payment for the construction of trump's wall?

A healthcare policy to replace Obamacare?

That infrastructure bill trump's own party refused to pass during the sweetheart GOP trifecta?
 
Post #118

No, trump does NOT "have a history of delivering on his promises":
The wall? Mexico's payment of trump's wall? Mixed
A healthcare policy to replace Obamacare? Mixed
That infrastructure bill trump's own party refused to pass during the sweetheart GOP trifecta? Not on the top 10 promises
These are his 2016 campaign promises. He fully delivered on 6 of 10 and had mixed results on three more.

Control illegal border crossings *​
America First foreign policy ✔​
Reduce regulations ✔​
Appoint constructionist Judges ✔​
Trade agreements ✔​
Repeal/replace ACA *​
Tax reform ✔​
Job creation ✔​
Economic Growth *​
Drain the Swamp​
 
These are his 2016 campaign promises. He fully delivered on 6 of 10 and had mixed results on three more.

Control illegal border crossings​
Didn't happen back in trump I, not happening now. (Clue: it's impossible to "control" illegal border crossings.)
America First foreign policy ✔​
How so? Tariffs aren't an "America First" policy.
Reduce regulations ✔​
Yep, this is the ONE area in which he has been all too successful. (It's also the easiest to accomplish.)


Appoint constructionist Judges ✔​
No, he's not appointed "constructionist" judges. He's appointed Pirro and others.
Trade agreements ✔​
He RENEGED on the trade agreement he renegotiated and signed the first time around!

So, no.
Repeal/replace ACA *​
Tax reform ✔​
Not done. All he did was get his cowed Congress to continue that first-term mega tax break for the uber-rich.

No "reform".
Job creation ✔​
When? Not recently.
Economic Growth *​
Drain the Swamp​
 
Didn't happen back in trump I, not happening now. (Clue: it's impossible to "control" illegal border crossings.)
It happened when Mexico agreed to help from their side of the border.

How so? Tariffs aren't an "America First" policy.
They are, but it's beside the point.

Trump's America First stance was well received. Other nations assumed it was our real position under previous Presidents and respected the candor.

Yep, this is the ONE area in which he has been all too successful. (It's also the easiest to accomplish.)
So, Trump delivered on a promise.

No, he's not appointed "constructionist" judges. He's appointed Pirro and others.
You are simply wrong on this.

He RENEGED on the trade agreement he renegotiated and signed the first time around!
He delivered over a dozen trade agreements to Congress for ratification.

Stay on point.

So, yes, by your admission.

Not done. All he did was get his cowed Congress to continue that first-term mega tax break for the uber-rich.
This lie is getting old.

No "reform".
The 2017 tax plan brought US tax policy into line with other industrial nations.

The result has been beneficial to exports.

When? Not recently.
Trump had record-low unemployment.

Buy a fact.
 
It happened when Mexico agreed to help from their side of the border.


They are, but it's beside the point.

Trump's America First stance was well received. Other nations assumed it was our real position under previous Presidents and respected the candor.


So, Trump delivered on a promise.


You are simply wrong on this.


He delivered over a dozen trade agreements to Congress for ratification.

Stay on point.


So, yes, by your admission.


This lie is getting old.


The 2017 tax plan brought US tax policy into line with other industrial nations.

The result has been beneficial to exports.


Trump had record-low unemployment.

Buy a fact.
LOL!

Trump delivered on 1 (ONE) promise!

This puts paid to your absurd premise that trump delivered on his promises. That wasn't done during trump I, and it's sure not being done now.

Btw, trump promised to end Russia's invasion of Ukraine. I've missed that....when did it happen?
 
LOL! Trump delivered on 1 (ONE) promise!
Correction, you freely admit to one.

You grudgingly admitted to two others and never challenged six of them.

This puts paid to your absurd premise that trump delivered on his promises. That wasn't done during trump I, and it's sure not being done now.
It does.

By your admission, Trump does deliver.

Btw, trump promised to end Russia's invasion of Ukraine. I've missed that....when did it happen?
Even during his first term, Trump did not deliver on every promise.

Prospects of a ceasefire are looking better.
 
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