https://www.foxnews.com/politics/former-biden-advisers-change-covid-19-strategy-live-with-it-not-shut-it-down

[Hughinn]

Former advisers press Biden to change COVID-19 strategy: live with it, not shut it down

Six members of the advisory board that worked with President Biden during his transition period before taking office are now calling on him to take a different approach to the COVID-19 pandemic.

www.foxnews.com

"The goal for the ‘new normal’ with COVID-19 does not include eradication or elimination, eg, the ‘zero COVID’ strategy. Neither COVID-19 vaccination nor infection appear to confer lifelong immunity," they wrote. "Current vaccines do not offer sterilizing immunity against SARS-CoV-2 infection. Infectious diseases cannot be eradicated when there is limited long-term immunity following infection or vaccination or nonhuman reservoirs of infection."

The "new normal," they explained, should be "recognizing that SARS-CoV-2 is but one of several circulating respiratory viruses that include influenza, respiratory syncytial virus (RSV), and more." They noted that people have been living normal lives while facing the threat of those other respiratory illnesses, and they must learn to view the threat of COVID-19 as just an additional threat alongside the others."


in other words, covid is just another flu. And joe biden lied to get elected when he claimed he could "shut it down"

 

[Allan]

in other words, covid is just another flu.

That's not what they said at all and it's not comparable to the flu. Covid has a much higher fatality rate and people infected are far more likely to be hospitalized and suffer long-term effects.

 

[snakestretcher]

Former advisers press Biden to change COVID-19 strategy: live with it, not shut it down

Six members of the advisory board that worked with President Biden during his transition period before taking office are now calling on him to take a different approach to the COVID-19 pandemic.

www.foxnews.com

"The goal for the ‘new normal’ with COVID-19 does not include eradication or elimination, eg, the ‘zero COVID’ strategy. Neither COVID-19 vaccination nor infection appear to confer lifelong immunity," they wrote. "Current vaccines do not offer sterilizing immunity against SARS-CoV-2 infection. Infectious diseases cannot be eradicated when there is limited long-term immunity following infection or vaccination or nonhuman reservoirs of infection."

The "new normal," they explained, should be "recognizing that SARS-CoV-2 is but one of several circulating respiratory viruses that include influenza, respiratory syncytial virus (RSV), and more." They noted that people have been living normal lives while facing the threat of those other respiratory illnesses, and they must learn to view the threat of COVID-19 as just an additional threat alongside the others."


in other words, covid is just another flu. And joe biden lied to get elected when he claimed he could "shut it down"

Remind me, when was the last time that "just another flu" killed over five million people in a year?

 

[CaughtInThe]

Another Fox News link from the same guy.

 

[bluesmoke]

Just to edify, COVID is a cold virus, not an influenza virus. Regardless, if COVID variants weaken enough as did H1N1 (the "Spanish Flu"), then we could "live with it", as we have with H1N1, which is now what we call the common flu, for which we get annual/biannual vaccine shots for what once caused the 1918 pandemic that killed 650K in the US alone. However, if the anti-vaxxers keep giving COVID time, it could possibly mutate into a worse variant for which we've no vax. That's the big epidemiological worry. Virus are getting worse. The next pandemic may have to be named something else. The big lie of the pandemic was Trump saying it wasn't a problem and would soon disappear with few people dying while he did little about it and openly disdained protection against the virus.

 

[Allan]

Remind me, when was the last time that "just another flu" killed over five million people in a year?

Canada has about 52,000 flu cases annually. We're getting more than 30,000 new Covid cases per day.

 

[Hughinn]

That's not what they said at all and it's not comparable to the flu. Covid has a much higher fatality rate and people infected are far more likely to be hospitalized and suffer long-term effects.

Remind me, when was the last time that "just another flu" killed over five million people in a year?

Canada has about 52,000 flu cases annually. We're getting more than 30,000 new Covid cases per day.

The covid cult panic porn aside.

It's a cold virus that the vaccine is not going to eliminate.

One way or another, we're going to live with it.

Joe Biden lied. He can't stop the virus. Nobody can.

This pandemic ultimately ends the same way every other pandemic in all human history has ended. - it runs it's course and eventually we'll be immune.

Anybody with sense can see that

 

[VySky]

Why is taking 2 years for the idiots in DC to come around to what I have been suggesting for 2 years now. We, the people, are forcing them too

 

[Hughinn]

Just to edify, COVID is a cold virus, not an influenza virus. Regardless, if COVID variants weaken enough as did H1N1 (the "Spanish Flu"), then we could "live with it", as we have with H1N1, which is now what we call the common flu, for which we get annual/biannual vaccine shots for what once caused the 1918 pandemic that killed 650K in the US alone. However, if the anti-vaxxers keep giving COVID time, it could possibly mutate into a worse variant for which we've no vax. That's the big epidemiological worry. Virus are getting worse. The next pandemic may have to be named something else. The big lie of the pandemic was Trump saying it wasn't a problem and would soon disappear with few people dying while he did little about it and openly disdained protection against the virus.

That post is stupid.

The big lie of the pandemic was politicians pretending they could stop such a force of nature to get votes.

Drop the "orange man bad" bullshit and at the end of the day, he did everything he could. And to be fair, so did Joe Biden.

Only idiots would think politicians can hold power over mother nature

 

[Fledermaus]

The covid cult panic porn aside.

It's a cold virus that the vaccine is not going to eliminate.

One way or another, we're going to live with it.

Joe Biden lied. He can't stop the virus. Nobody can.

This pandemic ultimately ends the same way every other pandemic in all human history has ended. - it runs it's course and eventually we'll be immune.

Anybody with sense can see that

COVID DENIAL SYNDROME.

So stupid considering the facts relating to COVID.

 

[snakestretcher]

The covid cult panic porn aside.

It's a cold virus that the vaccine is not going to eliminate.

One way or another, we're going to live with it.

Joe Biden lied. He can't stop the virus. Nobody can.

This pandemic ultimately ends the same way every other pandemic in all human history has ended. - it runs it's course and eventually we'll be immune.

Anybody with sense can see that

You are free to remain clueless. Covid-19 is emphatically not influenza, because both diseases are caused by different viruses. Perhaps you might explain why we don't see smallpox any longer; could it be because it was eradicated through a sustained programme of vaccination, reaching 80% of the global population?

COVID-19 vs. the Flu

www.hopkinsmedicine.org

Smallpox

Humanity eradicated this infectious disease globally. How was this possible?

ourworldindata.org

 

[Hughinn]

COVID DENIAL SYNDROME.

So stupid considering the facts relating to COVID.

You are free to remain clueless. Covid-19 is emphatically not influenza, because both diseases are caused by different viruses. Perhaps you might explain why we don't see smallpox any longer; could it be because it was eradicated through a sustained programme of vaccination, reaching 80% of the global population?

COVID-19 vs. the Flu

www.hopkinsmedicine.org

Smallpox

Humanity eradicated this infectious disease globally. How was this possible?

ourworldindata.org

Oh yes. Let's que the covid cult panic porn now , get out tinfoil hats and open up all our copy and paste bullshit found on the numerous DNC propoganda networks and howl like chicken little that the sky is falling.

Ready....3....2...1

 

[Fledermaus]

Oh yes. Let's que the covid cult panic porn now , get out tinfoil hats and open up all our copy and paste bullshit found on the numerous DNC propoganda networks and howl like chicken little that the sky is falling.

Ready....3....2...1

More CDS.

This is your brain.

This is your brain on CDS.

 

[Captain Adverse]

That's not what they said at all and it's not comparable to the flu. Covid has a much higher fatality rate and people infected are far more likely to be hospitalized and suffer long-term effects.

Actually, it IS "comparable to the Flu."

Where do you think the original Flu came from? A little thing known at the time as "The Spanish Flu" caused by the H1N1 virus which appeared in the USA circa 1918 and killed nearly 700,000 Americans. It is also estimated to have killed 17.5 - 100 million people worldwide.

The Flu Pandemic of 1918

Red Cross workers make anti-influenza masks for soldiers, Boston, Massachusetts. (National Archives Identifier 45499341) Before COVID-19, the most severe pandemic in recent history was the 1918 influenza virus, often called “the Spanish Flu.” The virus infected roughly 500 million...

www.archives.gov

Types of Influenza Viruses

Learn more about the types of influenza viruses that cause seasonal flu illness in humans each year.

www.cdc.gov

It and several other Flu viruses are endemic now, causing between 12,000 - 60,000+ annual deaths in the USA. Covid (the Omicron version perhaps) will likely become endemic as well.

 

[Allan]

Actually, it IS "comparable to the Flu."

Where do you think the original Flu came from? A little thing known at the time as "The Spanish Flu" caused by the H1N1 virus which appeared in the USA circa 1918 and killed nearly 700,000 Americans. It is also estimated to have killed 17.5 - 100 million people worldwide.

The Flu Pandemic of 1918

Red Cross workers make anti-influenza masks for soldiers, Boston, Massachusetts. (National Archives Identifier 45499341) Before COVID-19, the most severe pandemic in recent history was the 1918 influenza virus, often called “the Spanish Flu.” The virus infected roughly 500 million...

www.archives.gov

Types of Influenza Viruses

Learn more about the types of influenza viruses that cause seasonal flu illness in humans each year.

www.cdc.gov

It and several other Flu viruses are endemic now, causing between 12,000 - 60,000+ annual deaths in the USA. Covid (the Omicron version perhaps) will likely become endemic as well.

Covid is a coronavirus; the flu is not.

 

[Cardinal]

Former advisers press Biden to change COVID-19 strategy: live with it, not shut it down

Six members of the advisory board that worked with President Biden during his transition period before taking office are now calling on him to take a different approach to the COVID-19 pandemic.

www.foxnews.com

"The goal for the ‘new normal’ with COVID-19 does not include eradication or elimination, eg, the ‘zero COVID’ strategy. Neither COVID-19 vaccination nor infection appear to confer lifelong immunity," they wrote. "Current vaccines do not offer sterilizing immunity against SARS-CoV-2 infection. Infectious diseases cannot be eradicated when there is limited long-term immunity following infection or vaccination or nonhuman reservoirs of infection."

The "new normal," they explained, should be "recognizing that SARS-CoV-2 is but one of several circulating respiratory viruses that include influenza, respiratory syncytial virus (RSV), and more." They noted that people have been living normal lives while facing the threat of those other respiratory illnesses, and they must learn to view the threat of COVID-19 as just an additional threat alongside the others."


in other words, covid is just another flu. And joe biden lied to get elected when he claimed he could "shut it down"

The vaccine seems to be good enough for Fox News, which instituted a mandate for all of their employees.

 

[Hughinn]

The vaccine seems to be good enough for Fox News, which instituted a mandate for all of their employees.

Looks to me like that ain't true.

Not even CNN is saying fox mandated vaccines.

Fox News mandates that its employees disclose vaccination status, contradicting rhetoric from its top stars

The right-wing channel Fox News, whose top personalities have for months assailed the concept of vaccine passports and argued that asking about vaccine status amounts to a major intrusion of privacy, told employees this week that they must disclose their vaccination status to the company.

www.google.com

 

[Cardinal]

Looks to me like that ain't true.

Not even CNN is saying fox mandated vaccines.

Fox News mandates that its employees disclose vaccination status, contradicting rhetoric from its top stars

The right-wing channel Fox News, whose top personalities have for months assailed the concept of vaccine passports and argued that asking about vaccine status amounts to a major intrusion of privacy, told employees this week that they must disclose their vaccination status to the company.

www.google.com

It’s not just CNN. You’re just like conservatives who denied that Trump got vaccinated. Which of course was the whole point of him getting vaccinated in secret.

fox news vaccine mandate for employees at DuckDuckGo

DuckDuckGo. Privacy, Simplified.

duckduckgo.com

 

[Hughinn]

It’s not just CNN. You’re just like conservatives who denied that Trump got vaccinated. Which of course was the whole point of him getting vaccinated in secret.

fox news vaccine mandate for employees at DuckDuckGo

DuckDuckGo. Privacy, Simplified.

duckduckgo.com

I couldn't care less about who decided to get vaccinated. That's thier business.

I'm not s liberal that thinks it's my right to run around howling at other people who make different choices than I do.

I see no reason to care either way.

I just want to be left alone to make my own choices too.

 

[Cardinal]

I couldn't care less about who decided to get vaccinated. That's thier business.

I'm not s liberal that thinks it's my right to run around howling at other people who make different choices than I do.

I see no reason to care either way.

I just want to be left alone to make my own choices too.

The point is that Fox News is pushing a narrative that is completely at odds with their own internal policy. They’re liars and hypocrites.

 

[snakestretcher]

Oh yes. Let's que the covid cult panic porn now , get out tinfoil hats and open up all our copy and paste bullshit found on the numerous DNC propoganda networks and howl like chicken little that the sky is falling.

Ready....3....2...1

If you have nothing but infantile garbage in response, perhaps this forum would be more to your liking; http://www.barbiedollsforsale.com/barbie-collector-forum.htm

 

[Hughinn]

The point is that Fox News is pushing a narrative that is completely at odds with their own internal policy. They’re liars and hypocrites.

CNN MSNBC ABC CBS and NBC BBC NPR vox etc.

Are all hypocrites and liars.

Why do you think fox is any different?

 

[switt]

The covid cult panic porn aside.

It's a cold virus that the vaccine is not going to eliminate.

One way or another, we're going to live with it.

Joe Biden lied. He can't stop the virus. Nobody can.

This pandemic ultimately ends the same way every other pandemic in all human history has ended. - it runs it's course and eventually we'll be immune.

Anybody with sense can see that

Actually, I agree with much of this post. However, your interpretation and calling Biden a liar is misplaced. Vaccines save lives and Biden put the scientists in the drivers seat. and Trump politically weaponized COVID and that is what your buying into.

I believe that omicron is the last gasp of the virus. In a few weeks, COVID will no longer be novel as most of us will have some immunity, as we do with the flu. At which point, we may live and die with it much like we do with the flu.

 

[Mr Person]

Can you think of anything dumber and more maliciously dishonest than to resist every effort to combat COVID, thereby ensuring it sticks around to mutate as we warned, then point to the fact that they successfully made it stick to say they were right all along and it must be lived with?

I can't. That's why they're doing it. Isn't that right?

 

[Cardinal]

CNN MSNBC ABC CBS and NBC BBC NPR vox etc.

Are all hypocrites and liars.

Why do you think fox is any different?

How long did you deny that Trump got vaccinated in secret until it was no longer tenable to do so?