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Hoyt Carbon Element is one wicked bow... New for 2011

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I have been looking at new bows and have been looking at Mathews Z7 Magnum Z7 Magnum | Mathews Inc.

I am leaning towards the Hoyt Carbon Element Hoyt Carbon Element Compound Bows - HOYT.com

I am taking the drive to east Texas this comming weekend to a dealer to check out the carbon element. If I decide to purchase it I will post pics.



 
Give me a longbow. If you're going to rely on such massive amounts of engineering you might as well buy a gun.
 
Manc Skipper said:
Give me a longbow. If you're going to rely on such massive amounts of engineering you might as well buy a gun.
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Even a bow like this takes skill. One of the advantages to it compared to other bows is stability, accuracy, less weight (only 3.6 lbs), and less vibration than other bows. Its also extremely fast at 323 fps (feet per second). I allready have rifles and shotguns. I prefer hunting with a bow.
 

Animals do not possess projectile weaponry. A spear is the only truly manly option.

And what's the deal with hunting dear all the time? I know, they're tasty and everywhere, so I guess if you really feel like eating one that's fine, but as a sport? C'mon. Deer are about the dumbest animals out there, and here you guys are covering yourselves in their urine, wearing camouflage, and setting up lures for them to come by for easy shooting while you sit in a tree for about thirty hours. That's a sport? Why not go after something that has the ability and inclination to kick your ass, like a bear or something.

With the spear.
 
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The riser is made in Italy-hoyt usa doesn't have the capability of making a carbon riser at this point. BTW WW is making a carbon riser compound for Rick McKinney's Carbon Tech Rick is gonna send me one when they become available this spring
 

you obviously don't know much about archery hunting do you?
 

First of all there arn't any bears in my neck of the woods secondly I am not a trophy hunter. I hunt for meat. My family prefers to eat venison and wild hogs. I am also an avid fisherman. I harvest what we can eat. I provide for my family by working and keeping my deep freezer full of nutritous, hormone and antibiotic free meat.
 
TurtleDude said:
The riser is made in Italy-hoyt usa doesn't have the capability of making a carbon riser at this point. BTW WW is making a carbon riser compound for Rick McKinney's Carbon Tech Rick is gonna send me one when they become available this spring
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Cool, the Carbon riser in the hoyt is hollow. Thats why it weighs 3.6lbs. They tested the riser strength by running over it several times with a truck, reassembling the bow and it performed perfectly. The fact that its made in Italy is not a problem for me. Are there any other archers on this forum besides the Reverand that you know of?
 

I am a hoyt pro staff archer and I have played around with that bow (I shoot a pair of Formula RX long risers with long 40 pound F4 limbs for indoor and F4 mediums for outdoor). I have shot PSE, Browning, Matthews, Jennings, hoyt and now CT compounds over the last 20 years.

I know one of the posters here is the father of a former top junior olympic style archer but I want reveal that unless he's cool with it-
 

Nah, you gotta hunt down a lion with a blunt swiss army knife, that's manly.
 
spud_meister said:
Nah, you gotta hunt down a lion with a blunt swiss army knife, that's manly.
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Who cares about manly, I want a setup that doesn't give me much of a chance of getting eaten by a lion. A Barrett .50 cal from 500+ yards sounds good.

From a helicopter, if possible, to avoid any other lions.

Probably overkill...
 
The Mark said:
Who cares about manly, I want a setup that doesn't give me much of a chance of getting eaten by a lion. A Barrett .50 cal from 500+ yards sounds good.

From a helicopter, if possible, to avoid any other lions.

Probably overkill...
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Do it the Maasai way, with nothing but a loin cloth and a short spear. :mrgreen:
 
spud_meister said:
Do it the Maasai way, with nothing but a loin cloth and a short spear. :mrgreen:
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I have a few of those spears-hardly short-they are about six feet long with a three foot blade made out of a forged automobile leaf spring-below that a wood handle about a foot long and then a couple feet of an iron or steel square rod-often from a piece of rebar.

Masai warriors will surround a lion and when it charges one of the warriors-the technique is to fall back, over the vitals with the cowhide shield and ram the spear''s buttpoint into the ground so that the lion impales itsself on the blade-the other warriors then mass stab the beast

yeah that takes a lot of balls. but a masai spear through the gut is gonna fk up just about any beast on earth
 
TurtleDude said:
you obviously don't know much about archery hunting do you?
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I love shooting a bow. It is still more challenging (to me) than using a rifle for target shooting. I don't hunt and don't plan on it (ever) but I love to go to the shooting range.
 
TheGirlNextDoor said:
I love shooting a bow. It is still more challenging (to me) than using a rifle for target shooting. I don't hunt and don't plan on it (ever) but I love to go to the shooting range.
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its a far more difficult sport than many realize since you have to completely master yourself in order to master the flight of the arrow
 
Agreed. Spear-hunting with a group is an incredible amount of fun. I've only done it once but I went with a group that really knew their stuff.

I was the noob I was relegated to chase duty, but there's something incredibly primal about it that feels amazing.
 

never tried that but I had a catalog of custom knives and blades and it featured a BOAR SPEAR

years ago I was at a gun/knife show and some good old boy from Tennessee showed me a knife he had hand forged. it was well balanced but I told him it was a bit heavy compared to the Model One randall I often carried.
"that aint no fighting knife boy-that's a pig knife"

so he tells me about hunting hogs with a couple hounds and a knife. It was pretty entertaining-he said you wait til one dog gets the pig by the snout and the other gets him by the back leg and you run up and STICK HIM REAL GOOD.

so I said what happens if the dog lets go before you can stick the pig--well he pulls up his shirt and pulls his jeans down slightly and he had a 7 inch scar-sort of like a C-SEction scar my wife has and he says-well boy sometimes the PIG STICKS YOU-that's what makes it real fun

never tried that sort of fun
 
To me, THAT is hunting.
 


You are probably not aware of the old and revered, unbreakable hunting tradition: the Man with the New Idea tries it out first.

So, you go for it big guy. We'll watch and take notes. :lamo:
 
TheGirlNextDoor said:
I love shooting a bow. It is still more challenging (to me) than using a rifle for target shooting. I don't hunt and don't plan on it (ever) but I love to go to the shooting range.
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I like it myself. Been doing it for 30 years. You have to get kinda Zen with it, to get good with a bow.
 
Goshin said:
I like it myself. Been doing it for 30 years. You have to get kinda Zen with it, to get good with a bow.
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shot alot as a kid until the range went out of business-got back into it about 20 years ago and when my wife and I bought a small farm we started shooting almost daily. shot all over the country as has my wife and kid
 
TurtleDude said:
shot alot as a kid until the range went out of business-got back into it about 20 years ago and when my wife and I bought a small farm we started shooting almost daily. shot all over the country as has my wife and kid
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I like shooting at a 3D woodland range. There's this one not far off, down in the country. You park at the guy's house and drop a couple dollars in his "honor box", then walk down the trail. He's got deer targets set up in varying places (changes it from time to time), where you have to take shots from uphill, downhill, or through light brush. Nice challenge.
 

sounds neat-we used to do that on our small farm-had a bunch of xbow guys before they were welcome in the many IBO clubs around here (IBO was started about 20 miles from my home). we normally are shooting FITA style stuff now (Olympic archery)

but we still break out the foam bambis every once in a while

I got bored with 3D-too much time to shoot too few shots. but it was fun at our local sportsman club where you didn't have to wait for 15 minutes a target like I had to when I shot Nelsonville or Bedford in the triple crown tournaments 16 years ago
 
I think what ya'll are into sounds like a lot of fun. Its not for me though. Im just an old bow hunter who happens be intrested in the new tecnology such as the Carbon Element. I currently own an old Darton Lightning and a 2006 Fred Bear Code. I am doing much more bow hunting these days so I am looking at purchasing a high end bow. So far I have shot the Hoyt Carbon Element and the Mathews Z7. I like both of them but the Hoyt was quieter than the Mathews. The Mathews felt better in my hand.

TD are there others you recomend I shoot before I make my choice? My draw length is 27" and my draw weight is 60 to 70lbs. My Bear Code has a 34" axle and I am looking at bows between 30 and 32" axle.
 
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