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Dean sent shockwaves when he said Tuesday in an interview with Vermont Public Radio that the removal of the Medicare buy-in means Democrats should just kill the health care bill and start over.
Howard Dean: Health Care Bill 'Bigger Bailout for Insurance Industry Than AIG' - ABC News
so how about it liberals? Should Congressional demo's "kill the bill"?
j-mac
Nope. The nuclear option or reconciliation should be used.
Yep. Most people are against it because in doesn't set up a single payer system or at least a robust public option.So never mind the fact that a majority of Americans are now against the bill as it is being devised.
I have a question.
If the Bills passed by the House and Senate are assigned to a joint committee to work out the differences, can the joint committee add something that was not in either of the two bills?
Also, does the report from the joint committee have to pass in the Senate by 60 votes or just a simple majority?
Yep. Most people are against it because in doesn't set up a single payer system or at least a robust public option.
What's your basis for disputing it?And your basis for arriving at that conclusion?
so how about it liberals? Should Congressional demo's "kill the bill"?
j-mac
What's your basis for disputing it?
My basis for disputing your claim is that you can not possibly know what is in the hearts of ALL Americans concerning this.
Now, your basis?
j-mac
I dunno. I am very torn on this issue. I didn't think Howard Dean did a good job as DNC chairman; however, he is a doctor, and I think he has some good inside knowledge about the health industry to make intelligent assertions. In other words, in this area, I think he has some solid credibility.
If the bill is going to completely make over the entirety of our system, and taxes levied start immediately, but the change doesn't, shouldn't we get it right?
j-mac
But neither can you.
Yes, I think we should get it right. So you agree with Dean?
Of course it is. I've said from the beginning that anything our current government comes up for in terms of healthcare will be nothing more than a play to the insurance companies. People who think the government is somehow still beholden to us need to wake up. The Democrats aren't going to do anything which benefits us on the whole if it doesn't first benefit the uber rich and huge corporations which feed it. Neither will the Republicans. The quicker people understand this, the quicker we can get to work trying to change it.
Of course it is. I've said from the beginning that anything our current government comes up for in terms of healthcare will be nothing more than a play to the insurance companies. People who think the government is somehow still beholden to us need to wake up. The Democrats aren't going to do anything which benefits us on the whole if it doesn't first benefit the uber rich and huge corporations which feed it. Neither will the Republicans. The quicker people understand this, the quicker we can get to work trying to change it.
I can't believe the Democrats are going to actually do this. LOL. I mean, I know they're Democrats, but still, this is amazing.
Almost 70 percent of the population is violently against this bill, but their pride won't allow them to let it go. The Republicans are going to mop up in November over this, then overturn it in 2012.
This is the true definition of insanity.
I dunno. I am very torn on this issue. I didn't think Howard Dean did a good job as DNC chairman; however, he is a doctor, and I think he has some good inside knowledge about the health industry to make intelligent assertions. In other words, in this area, I think he has some solid credibility.
Clearly defined by the example of Pharma coming aboard. Why can't we know the back room deal? I thought demo's wanted, and promised openness, and transparency?
j-mac
Dude, I'm the guy who killed Superman.My basis for disputing your claim is that you can not possibly know what is in the hearts of ALL Americans concerning this.
If the bill is going to completely make over the entirety of our system, and taxes levied start immediately, but the change doesn't, shouldn't we get it right?
j-mac
What does "right" mean?
HAHAHAHAHAHA. I can't believe anyone bought into that lie. Like government is going to be more transparent. Ron Paul is trying to get a bill through that would increase the transparency of the Fed and you see all the bitching, moaning, and crying going on about just that (makes you wonder what exactly the Fed is doing with our money). Imagine if there was something to open up the backroom deals to us. Of course they don't want it know, I'm pretty damned sure that if we all knew exactly what those politicians were doing, we'd be setting up a Congress lynch mob right now.
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