ProChoiceDanielle
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jimmyjack said:Hurray! You only support the slaughter of innocents!
Peralin said:And what if you get the same pleasure as sex by walking off the cliff? Yu know that you could die from it, but you decide to do it anyway. If you fall and die, who's at fault? Is it you, for taking the risk, or is it luck, which worked against you? It's your fault for taking the risk, is it not?
FiremanRyan said:i began reading this thread and this was the first post i read by prochoicedanielle. i gave up after that. this alone tells us all that you obviously dont have the maturity or common sense to even be having sex in the first place. you must be 16.
what is it going to take for you to realize that its your responsibility if you get pregnant. look at your box of birth control and see where it says that it isnt 100% effective, it can and does fail, and abstinence is the only 'safe sex'.
you know who you are...you're the type of person who would sue McDonalds for making you fat because you have no concept of free will and personal responsibility.
IValueFreedom said:Prove it wrong or admit that you're unable or unwilling (not likely) to properly defend your position.
IValueFreedom said:I'll take your silence and obvious skipping of my posts as you conceding.
From this point forward, or until you show the errors in my logic and reasoning, I expect you to respect those who are pro-life in their beliefs as it has become abundantly apparent that you cannot disprove their arguments or prove your own. As you certainly believe your views are correct, but cannot defend them in logical terms, realize that your arguments are resting on nothing more than faith (not that there's anything wrong with that, just doesn't help in a debate forum).
ProChoiceDanielle said:For one, No, I am a 23 year old married woman. Married for 3 years now.
For two, If a woman is taking birth control, or using more than one method, she does not want to be pregnant. And if she does become pregnant she should always have the right to a safe and legal abortion.
For three, people who eat at mcdonalds (yuck!) and then sue them are absolutly stupid.
ProChoiceDanielle said:Logic is if a woman does not wish to be pregnant she should always have the option of a safe and legal abortion. Period.
ProChoiceDanielle said:Sex does not kill people.
jimmyjack said:If I kept shooting bullets at random intervals in public, I’m not deliberately killing anyone but if I keep it up for long enough I sure as hell will nail someone.
ProChoiceDanielle said:Logic is if a woman does not wish to be pregnant she should always have the option of a safe and legal abortion. Period.
FiremanRyan said:but you're still kind of missing the point. nobody actually wants to get pregnant unless theyre ready to have a child. you know before hand that no birth control will ever be 100% safe and you know before having sex that you run a risk of getting pregnant. what im saying is that if you are responsible enough to make the conscious decision to have sex, knowing the risks involved, than you should be responsible enough to give birth and care for the child if you become pregnant.
im sorry but to me, this has nothing to do with religion. i just think that killing an unborn baby whenever someone knocks you up is morbid and wrong. its unethical and complete hypocritical from the left when they lose their minds over the slaughtering of stock-bred chicken, yet they seem to have no problem taking away human life in an even more gruesome way.
IValueFreedom said:That's not logic. That's just a statement with the word logic in it. It's not even false logic... it's just... nothing.
I must admit, I'm kind of disappointed.
Although you're not willing to admit it (so it seems) everyone who reads these last few posts or this whole thread will know that you're unable to defend your position with logic and reasoning. Instead, you're basing your entire position on faith. Faith on what you want to be right being right.
From now on I hope that you respect those who do follow logic and reasoning in their views of pro-life and do not look down on them.
Peralin said:Now you are trying to tell us what logic means? Give me a break. And exactly how is this logical? That if a woman gets pregnant after choosing to have sex she should be allowed to kill someone so that she doesn't have to give birth? What if it was a 10-year-old? If you can't afford to keep it, kill it? Is that logic? If you don't want it, kill it? Does that really make sense to you?
The truth: The purpose of sexual intercourse is to reproduce.
If someone can't afford to give birth to a child then they shouldn't be able to afford to have sex either. Don't even risk it. It's not worth killing a baby simply because the person got unlucky and got pregnant. I've got an idea. Maybe the person should spend time working so that she can afford to give birth instead of having sex! (For the 50000th time, I do not want to hear "still doesn't matter" or "you need a hobby", and actually respond with more than 3 sentences please)
americanwoman said:I just wanted to say I am a woman on birth control. But if I was to get pregnant by accident of the pill I would keep the baby because if I didn't want a baby I would not have sex with my boyfriend or I would get my tubes tied. If I was unfortunate enough to get raped against my will and as a result get pregnant I could not take it out on the poor baby that was concieved against its will. I don't personally judge people for their faults but I'm sorry to say that murdering is definetly against all my beliefs and that is exactly what abortion is.
Youve Got To Be Kidding! said:Call me if you ever get raped and repeat all that bullshit to me. Please. Its almost worth praying for it to happen to see the results. Better yet What if you had a 12 year old daughter. You know lots of blood, sodomy lets say a 10 hour perversion spree from your neighboor when you are at work. And she gets pregnant. Would you hate that baby or not... Like I said If it ever happens call me. I want to be there when you are all getting counseling because you tried getting an abortion but cant cause its illegal.
Im glad that you BELIEVEthat you have the RIGHT to DECIDE what is right for me. ,,!,,
blogger31 said:Pretty sick post that you would pray for the rape of another person, or their child for that matter. Pretty much sums up what kind of character you have. You want abortion legal for rape victims yet trivialize the act by praying it on someone else. I'm glad you believe that you have the right to decide what is right for the unborn. It's a two way street if you want to go there.
ProChoiceDanielle said:So now you are suggesting that a 10 year old gestate and give birth? You must not know much about the body of a 10 year old. By no means would it be healthy for her to gestate and give birth. It would harm her body very much.
If a woman wants to obtain an abortion, she should be able to.
ProChoiceDanielle said:The arguement of abortion only for rape victims is a moot point either way. Do you know how many rapes go unreported a year? The number of "rape" would go through the roof. Men would be getting the finger pointed at them left and right.
It simply would not work.
CattyCarissa said:He wasn't saying that a 10 year old should have a baby. He was saying would you think any differently if you were killing a 10 year old versus a fetus/child/baby?
ProChoiceDanielle said:The arguement of abortion only for rape victims is a moot point either way. Do you know how many rapes go unreported a year? The number of "rape" would go through the roof. Men would be getting the finger pointed at them left and right.
It simply would not work.
CattyCarissa said:He wasn't saying that a 10 year old should have a baby. He was saying would you think any differently if you were killing a 10 year old versus a fetus/child/baby?
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