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How to win back the trump democrats

Do you think there is something to this?

  • Yes, I think this is true

    Votes: 3 60.0%
  • No, you can't win the trump democrats back

    Votes: 2 40.0%

  • Total voters
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I just shake my head at nonsense like this. Willful blindness at its worst. He took the actions that boosted the economy (spare me the “inherited from Obama bs).
uh, why should anyone ignore a good economy and low unemployment with both trending positively when Trump inherited the country??

truth is, Trump's papa and Obama/the previous years before Trump made Trump's job really easy. all he had to do was not **** it up. and he ****ed it up.
 
Not calling them "racist" every five seconds, or constantly throwing around various other insulting epitaphs like "deplorable," "moron," and "red neck" which only serve to invalidate their entirely legitimate concerns through ridicule and ad hominem attack, would be a good start.

It would probably also be advisable to cease openly wishing for their deaths and/or "extinction." :rolleyes:

Basically.... The Dems probably aren't getting these voters back until they stop being a party by, and for, sneering coastal elitists and deranged Leftist "Social Justice Warriors." Considering that both tend to be at the very core of the modern DNC's sense of identity, good luck with that one.

O brother, these same people listen to right wing talk radio constantly and think everyone in California is a communist. I got news for these folks, if they voted for Trump then they voted for a racist and a racist agenda. Live with it.
 
But it is all so true. How can they get mad hearing the truth?

And if I were to describe the DNC as being the party of choice for mentally ill moral degenerates who just want government to take care of them, avaricious radicalized minority interests looking for revenge, clueless and effete bandwagon jumpers whose only desire is to appear "virtuous" as the term is defined by modern mass media, and the wealthy blue blood technocrats who lead all groups around by the nose, would that not be equally "true?" :rolleyes:
 
uh, why should anyone ignore a good economy and low unemployment with both trending positively when Trump inherited the country??
Yeah, the ol’ “trend” nonsense. :roll:
Interesting those “trends accelerated under Trump. IF Obama was doing so well why didn’t HE hit these numbers? Fact is Obama oversaw the WORST post-recession recovery since WW II. Another fact is evey Onama acknowledged his pure performance by telling us slow growth was the “new normal”; Trump proved him wrong.
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I have no idea what gobbledegook you’re spewing here.
 
Yeah, the ol’ “trend” nonsense.
come on dude. are you really gonna sit here and lie about our economy and unemployment before Trump?? is that really all you have left??
 
Great line, but utter BS. Reagan was a New Deal Democrat. He spent 8 years as president gutting New Deal programs. He left the party, alright. It just got Blacker.
"Reagan wasn't a New Deal Democrat."
 
Well, he had that same appeal to more conservative Dems.
He was also for tax budgets, an active, engaged foreign policy. He is also credited with emphasize using special operations forces like Navy Seals and Green Beret. He also founded School of The Americas - credited with refining and broadening the techniques of some of latin americas finest dictators. :cool:
 
He was also for tax budgets, an active, engaged foreign policy. He is also credited with emphasize using special operations forces like Navy Seals and Green Beret. He also founded School of The Americas - credited with refining and broadening the techniques of some of latin americas finest dictators. :cool:
I get the feeling you're not a fan of J.F.K. ...
 
trump democrats are democrats who've joined the republican party and support trump. They are the same people who helped Roosevelt pass the New Deal back in the 30's.

What do trump democrats want?

trump, a populist, has shown us what they want. A populist is a politician who tells the people what they want to hear. All you have to do is listen carefully to what trump says and watch what he does.

trump democrats are worried about their jobs and their futures. This is why they're against illegal immigration, treaties like NAFTA, jobs moving overseas, etc. They see these things as threats to their financial well being.

Financial security is their number one concern. A lot of them live in places where there aren't very many good jobs. Not everyone is comfortable to moving to places with good jobs.

Now, how do you improve their financial prospects. Education is the only thing that comes to mind. After WWII, the GI Bill put a lot of people through college and a lot of those people started businesses and they hired others.


Do you think there is something to this?

They be getting old!

We don't need them.

They chose the slime bed they wanted to lie in, let them be.
 
I get the feeling you're not a fan of J.F.K. ...
Actually, in the day, he was my hero. And I still admire a lot of what he did. I added the SOA comment because I figured if I didn’t someone else would. He certainly had his faults, but most humans do. I remember the enthusiasm and interest in government/politics he fostered as well as his vision of America as a force for good; Again, so of the tools he used executing that vision were not sterling.
 
I just shake my head at nonsense like this. Willful blindness at its worst. He took the actions that boosted the economy (spare me the “inherited from Obama bs). He broke away from Obama’s eight-year war on “millionaires and billionaires” and “ . . .pay their fair share bullshit” and convinced them to invest and build and innovate and hiked wages, reduced unemployment and built an economy that was creating more job OPENINGS that we had people to fill them.
Nope. Every economic metric was on the exact same trend line from 2010 up until the pandemic. Trump changed absolutely nothing and had no effect on that trend other to continue what he inherited, and double the deficit.
 
Huh? Trump did more for financial security than any other recent President - lower unemployment, higher wages, more job opportunities, rising stock markets - which are foundational to retirement programs. Things that are more important to most people than gay wedding cakes, transgender bathrooms and such.
All of this started in 2010 and continued at the same pace under trump. He did nothing other than exist.
 
Actually, in the day, he was my hero. And I still admire a lot of what he did. I added the SOA comment because I figured if I didn’t someone else would. He certainly had his faults, but most humans do. I remember the enthusiasm and interest in government/politics he fostered as well as his vision of America as a force for good; Again, so of the tools he used executing that vision were not sterling.
Gotcha'. And I'm glad you brought out negatives, to balance the conversation!

J.F.K. became a larger than life figure. He was Reaganesque. Or perhaps more accurately, Reagan was J.F.K.-like. Ditto for Obama, at least in his speechmaking. He/they inspired the country. They (Kennedy Clan) were the new Camelot, as so often said. The closest thing we had to royalty, but an American democratic self-made royalty of sorts.
 
Yeah, the ol’ “trend” nonsense. :roll:
Interesting those “trends accelerated under Trump. IF Obama was doing so well why didn’t HE hit these numbers? Fact is Obama oversaw the WORST post-recession recovery since WW II. Another fact is evey Onama acknowledged his pure performance by telling us slow growth was the “new normal”; Trump proved him wrong.
Reality shatters this moronic partisan viewpoint you cling to. Every economic metric stayed on the same unchanging trend line from 2010 up to the pandemic. Nothing changed under trump. Nothing accelerated under trump. This is in no way debatable. This is objective fact, for which we have official data to prove it.
 
Yeah, the ol’ “trend” nonsense. :roll:
Interesting those “trends accelerated under Trump. IF Obama was doing so well why didn’t HE hit these numbers? Fact is Obama oversaw the WORST post-recession recovery since WW II. Another fact is evey Onama acknowledged his pure performance by telling us slow growth was the “new normal”; Trump proved him wrong.

Mitch fought Obama every step of the way

Imagine America’s recovery had Republicans supported Obama’s stimulus like Trump’s

He will do the same to biden if he has the chance. The republicans are already gearing up to become deficit hawks again while having been silent while Trump's deficits have soared every year since taking office.
 
trump democrats are democrats who've joined the republican party and support trump. They are the same people who helped Roosevelt pass the New Deal back in the 30's.

What do trump democrats want?

trump, a populist, has shown us what they want. A populist is a politician who tells the people what they want to hear. All you have to do is listen carefully to what trump says and watch what he does.

trump democrats are worried about their jobs and their futures. This is why they're against illegal immigration, treaties like NAFTA, jobs moving overseas, etc. They see these things as threats to their financial well being.

Financial security is their number one concern. A lot of them live in places where there aren't very many good jobs. Not everyone is comfortable to moving to places with good jobs.

Now, how do you improve their financial prospects. Education is the only thing that comes to mind. After WWII, the GI Bill put a lot of people through college and a lot of those people started businesses and they hired others.


Do you think there is something to this?
Mr. One and done was a demagogue who used lies to hoodwink the vulnerable into thinking he was their savior. Like all demagogues they preach reform but in practice they favor the status quo. He promised to raise taxes on the wealthy and then when in office he cut them instead. In May 2016 he said...
"For the wealthy, I think, frankly, it's going to go up. And you know what? It really should go up." — NBC's Meet the Press, May 7
He also promised to spend a $ trillion on infrastructure too.. That never happened either. His plan was actually to sell off our interstate highway system and turn them into toll roads.
In response, the Trump administration is rumored to finally be coming out with his $1 trillion infrastructure plan. Candidate Trump famously promised to spend $1 trillion on infrastructure in 2016 in response to Hillary Clinton’s proposal to spend half a trillion on infrastructure. Campaign background documents clarified that he didn’t expect the federal government to spend $1 trillion but merely to give private investors incentives to spend that much money. Nothing much happened with that plan after he took office.
https://www.cato.org/blog/trumps-1-trillion-infrastructure-plan-0

He was nothing but another Huey Long and I don't think anyone can win them over but another lying demagogue.
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Mitch fought Obama every step of the way

Imagine America’s recovery had Republicans supported Obama’s stimulus like Trump’s

He will do the same to biden if he has the chance. The republicans are already gearing up to become deficit hawks again while having been silent while Trump's deficits have soared every year since taking office.
So, what? Are you claiming Schumer wouldn’t and didn’t?
 
Gotcha'. And I'm glad you brought out negatives, to balance the conversation!

J.F.K. became a larger than life figure. He was Reaganesque. Or perhaps more accurately, Reagan was J.F.K.-like. Ditto for Obama, at least in his speechmaking. He/they inspired the country. They (Kennedy Clan) were the new Camelot, as so often said. The closest thing we had to royalty, but an American democratic self-made royalty of sorts.
Interesting comparison. Kennedy had the charisma of a young man with a beautiful wife and two kids. They played touch football, went sailor, had massive family gathers, etc. Reagan was more grandfatherly - his kids were grown, a couple were estranged. We got a few glimpses of Reagan at his range but the whole family life meme never had the impact of Kennedy’s.
 
Interesting comparison. Kennedy had the charisma of a young man with a beautiful wife and two kids. They played touch football, went sailor, had massive family gathers, etc. Reagan was more grandfatherly - his kids were grown, a couple were estranged. We got a few glimpses of Reagan at his range but the whole family life meme never had the impact of Kennedy’s.
Yes, but both men had that same public patriotic charisma, optimism, and espirit-de-corps! They made us feel proud to be Americans, and most importantly they inspired us to want to come together as Americans! That 'inspirational coming together' is the thing! (y)
 
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