How to ban guns without firing a single shot!

[RF667799]

When he lacks the integrity to stand by his own words that's a red flag.

Broad assertions likely cribbed from the fetid swamps of the Gun Control Industry. No arguments to support them..in fact, a refusal to support them in most cases. The Gun Control Industry would see a better cost/benefit ratio by employing a bot.

 

[CLAX1911]

Broad assertions likely cribbed from the fetid swamps of the Gun Control Industry. No arguments to support them..in fact, a refusal to support them in most cases. The Gun Control Industry would see a better cost/benefit ratio by employing a bot.

I really think with him even with all the pomp and circumstance it's just you're on the wrong team so you must be wrong.

It's gun control for spite.

 

[RF667799]

I really think with him even with all the pomp and circumstance it's just you're on the wrong team so you must be wrong.

It's gun control for spite.

If his arguments on other topics are as inept as his (mostly non-existent) arguments in support of gun control, his team is in a lot of trouble.

 

[CLAX1911]

If his arguments on other topics are as inept as his (mostly non-existent) arguments in support of gun control, his team is in a lot of trouble.

I'm quite glad he's posting because it's not about talking to him talking to him is about whoever is watching. You'll never convince him he's a zealot but you can't expose his inconsistency.

 

[Feynman Lives!]

And everybody's just going to obey these restrictions?

I don't reason in binary. Binary thinking is for lower IQ people. So I don't use lightly words like "everybody" "never", "none", "always"... and similar.. to make an argument.

Like ANY law, some will follow it, some won't But most licensed gun sellers will. So factories will produce less. And little by little there won't be more and more assault weapons put out in the streets. Until... what is out there is out there unless they are used in a crime and are confiscated. But not more.

It's funny how the least serious posters in this thread are tasked with coming up with EXCUSES... absent the capacity to come up with real ARGUMENTS.

 

[CLAX1911]

I don't reason in binary.

Or in any other form you can't. You believe something that's wrong.

Binary thinking is for lower IQ people. So I don't use words like "everybody" lightly

Telling other people that they're low IQ is really about buttressing your own ego.

Like ANY law, some will follow it, some won't

With this idiocy the only people that will follow it are the ones that are not the problem.

But most licensed gun sellers will.

So people that follow the law are the ones controlled. The unlicensed Black market gun dealers will find new markets.

So factories will produce less.

No they will produce the same amount. The primary customer for firearms is Nations. If they can make money selling surplus to willing buyers I don't think they care.

And little by little there won't be more and more assault weapons put out in the streets.

People were assaulting others with weapons millennia before they were guns so yes there will be.

Until... what is out there is out there unless they are used in a crime and are confiscated. But not more.

I actually think this will increase manufacture of firearms. Because now that America is weakened because we don't have an entire population that's armed people will be pointing guns at us.

So they will probably be more because there will be more demand.

The US isn't just a planet all on its own that's hard to get to.

 

[Feynman Lives!]

Let's remember that @Feynman Lives! has protested that the title of his thread is a joke.

But has also claimed it is his ultimate goal.

What I said was that the title was sarcastic. And that I wouldn't need to explain that to anybody with an average IQ or higher. They would immediately spot it on their own. Can't speak for anybody under average IQ, though.

The ability to detect sarcasm, jokes (and, for that matter, to know the difference) correlates to IQ.

 

[Feynman Lives!]

I don't reason in binary. Binary thinking is for lower IQ people.

Telling other people that they're low IQ is really about buttressing your own ego.

Oh? Does this mean that YOU reason in binary?

Ooops!

 

[CLAX1911]

What I said was that the title was sarcastic.

That's a way of admitting that your full of it

And that I wouldn't need to explain that to anybody with an average IQ or higher.

Insulting others because you got owned is pathetic

They would immediately spot it on their own. Can't speak for anybody under average IQ, though.

I'm not falling for it. I don't think you have a particularly high IQ so you projecting that on to others because they called out your irrational nonsense is just an attempt to save face

The ability to detect sarcasm, jokes (and, for that matter, to know the difference) correlates to IQ.

The attempt to disguise stupidity as a joke is low IQ and embarrassment.

 

[CLAX1911]

Oh? Does this mean that YOU reason in binary?

What would you know about it?

Ooops!

 

[RF667799]

What I said was that the title was sarcastic. And that I wouldn't need to explain that to anybody with an average IQ or higher. They would immediately spot it on their own. Can't speak for anybody under average IQ, though.

The ability to detect sarcasm, jokes (and, for that matter, to know the difference) correlates to IQ.

Except that after saying it was a joke, you also indicated it was your ultimate goal.

I suppose both can be true.

 

[jaeger19]

By requiring a graduation process.
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The only reason for these questions that have an OBVIOUS answer is to waste our time. Not interested. I'll wait for SERIOUS questions, thank you....

Great explain in detail this graduation process and how it’s going to discover criminals.

Which you are not required to answer unless you want a gun license.

So you have to divulge medical information to exercise a right
Should we have medical exams before you can vote , drive, etc.

If we have to choose between privacy and saving human life, the life, among people with morals of innocent people wins every time.

Except you can’t show it will save any lives at all. In fact you can’t show even how it will work.

It won't reduce them. It just won't put more.




I don't care about the details so long as it helps make it harder to purchase a gun for people who don't know the basic safety precautions of owning a gun, or who have some psychological problem that might make them a danger to themselves or others,. The details are irrelevant to ME. They will be very relevant to whoever drafts the final bill. But they can consult professionals in different fields to develop the tests.

So in other words you have no idea if it will work . See you need to KNOW AND Understand THE DETAILS TO know if it’s going to make it harder for people who are irresponsible etc to own a firearm.

Ok... fun as this discussion about how many Angels can dance on the head of a pin is.. what I'm looking for is for somebody to take ANY of my proposals and demonstrate why they won't work.

First you have to provide the details on how these proposals would be implemented, enforced etc.

Tell us if a person comes up to and says “ take this drug it will help you”

Would you take it. ?

Why or why not.

 

[P_T]

There I blocked the Big mouth, best to ya Feela.

 

[Feynman Lives!]

Great explain in detail this graduation process and how it’s going to discover criminals.

The graduation process includes a mandatory background check. And that might discover criminals, I guess. But that's not the MAIN purpose of the graduation process.

So you have to divulge medical information to exercise a right

No. Just to get a gun license...

 

[CLAX1911]

Except that after saying it was a joke, you also indicated it was your ultimate goal.

I suppose both can be true.

It was a tactic I tried when I was about 12 years old if I got caught saying something I shouldn't have I just say I was joking. I worked a couple of times and then people realize that that's a tactic.

He's doing something now presumably in his adulthood that I learned not to do when I was 12.

 

[JMB1911A1]

The graduation process includes a mandatory background check. And that might discover criminals, I guess. But that's not the MAIN purpose of the graduation process.

So, what is the MAIN purpose of the graduation process? To make it hard for people to exercise their constitutional rights?

No. Just to get a gun license...

You may have heard some something called the United States Constitution. The Second Amendment to that Constitution deals with an issue called the “right to keep and bear arms”. So, yes, it is a civil right.

 

[CLAX1911]

The graduation process includes a mandatory background check.

You just buy one on the black market so this is pointless.

And that might discover criminals, I guess.

No they'll justify on the black market.

But that's not the MAIN purpose of the graduation process.

Yes it's to interfere with people's rights and suspend Liberty.

No. Just to get a gun license...

We already have a license it's called the second amendment. You have to disqualify someone in order to say they can't have a firearm

 

[JMB1911A1]

It was a tactic I tried when I was about 12 years old if I got caught saying something I shouldn't have I just say I was joking. I worked a couple of times and then people realize that that's a tactic.

He's doing something now presumably in his adulthood that I learned not to do when I was 12.

You are making a big assumption that he is an adult. He definitely “debates” in a juvenile manner and in a position based on emotion rather than facts.

 

[CLAX1911]

You are making a big assumption that he is an adult. He definitely “debates” in a juvenile manner and in a position based on emotion rather than facts.

As much as I hate seeing this phrase I'm going to attribute that to emotional maturity.

 

[poppopfox]

You are making a big assumption that he is an adult. He definitely “debates” in a juvenile manner and in a position based on emotion rather than facts.

 

[JMB1911A1]

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Nothing substantial to offer I see. As usual.

 

[CLAX1911]

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Nothing substantial to offer I see. As usual.

One of the reasons I don't interact with that poster much.

 

[poppopfox]

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Nothing substantial to offer I see. As usual.

"... definitely “debates” in a juvenile manner."

 

[JMB1911A1]

"... definitely “debates” in a juvenile manner."

When you decide to bring facts to the discussion instead of snark, please let us know. Till then…

 

[poppopfox]

When you decide to bring facts to the discussion instead of snark, please let us know. Till then…

Same. same comrade.