How to ban guns without firing a single shot!

[jaeger19]

I'm not going to play the gaslighting game. That making it illegal to sell assault weapons makes it harder to GET an assault weapon is self-evident.

No it’s not. Look it’s already illegal to sell ANY weapon to a person who is a criminal or who has been found to be mentally incompetent. .
Yet criminals get firearms all the time , bypassing background checks, and insure requirements all the time.
You are the one trying to gaslight the public in believing your “ graduation process” is going to work metely because you say it will without being able to give any detail on how it will work.

If all your questions are going to be this idiotic, I'll pass and just wait for somebody to make a SERIOUS argument. Because this type of absurd questions make it obvious that you don't have a REAL argument to counter mine.

See definition of gaslighting.
There is nothing absurd about asking for details and evidence of your “ op solutions” before simply accepting them as fact.

If you have an intelligent question, or an intelligent point to make, go for it! Otherwise, don't bother...

See above. It’s certainly intelligent to ask

Well.... now you know...

I don't care what the process is. ANYTHING that teaches prospective gun owners not to leave their guns loaded lying around where there are children will be fine (and similar safety precautions). And any test that can be applied to show that the person is not dangerous due to a mental illness is a step in the right direction. We will spend money (a LOT of money) on experts who develop the details of this graduation process. The end expected result is that maybe we can keep a few nuts and irresponsible people from owning guns.

See that the problem with your logic. “Anything “ will be better. “

The goal 0f Trumps DOGE, is to make government more efficient and effective.
Do you believe DOGE is doing that? I certainly don’t because the facts prove otherwise. The details matter!

The same is true of your “ graduation process”. The details matter and you can’t even think of any details which shows you have no idea if it will work or not.
However, I propose that starting in 5 th grade we start mandatory firearm safety training in public schools .
Emphasizing safety and eventual competency ( in high school).

Graduation from the class allows the student at 18 to purchase firearms and ammunition and carry concealed in every state.
This ensures that people buying firearms are safety trained and competent.

ARE YOU IN SUPPORT. ?

 

[rahl]

WTF? You asked what authorized the federal government to ENACT red flag laws. Article 1 does! The law will be enforced by whoever has the job of enforcing laws. Local police, most likely.

Local police can’t enforce federal laws. Which is why they don’t.

Do you even know how the federal government WORKS?

No kidding!

This is looking more and more like a waste of time!

 

[rahl]

Only assault weapons. But I'm happy to see that you believe my proposals would accomplish this.

You can’t ban “assault weapons”. The Supreme Court already told you this.

 

[Feynman Lives!]

No it’s not. Look it’s already illegal to sell ANY weapon to a person who is a criminal or who has been found to be mentally incompetent. .

Which works great if you KNOW they're a criminal or mentally incapacitated. My proposal would make it clear. Why would anybody object to that?

Yet criminals get firearms all the time...

My point exactly!

There is nothing absurd about asking for details and evidence of your “ op solutions” before simply accepting them as fact.

I don't know if it's absurd. But it's irrelevant to this topic. What will be the questions on a mental health assessment or anything like that? Don't know... don't care.... Experts in the field will figure that out when the moment comes.

See above. It’s certainly intelligent to ask

Not in this thread. This is only about whether or not such a "graduation process" would help reduce the number of guns in the hands of irresponsible, inept and mentally incompetent people.

Do you believe DOGE is doing that?

No. But completely irrelevant to this thread.

The details matter ...

The details will matter when we reach that point. This is only a general proposal. ALL of these are general proposals of what needs to be done. They are not intended to BE the law that will ultimately be passed by Congress.

 

[Feynman Lives!]

You can’t ban “assault weapons”. The Supreme Court already told you this.

They said you CAN. Stop the nonsense about matters you know NOTHING about. Off-topic in this thread, though.

 

[CLAX1911]

Which works great if you KNOW they're a criminal or mentally incapacitated. My proposal would make it clear. Why would anybody object to that?

Because your proposal completely ignores the problem and pretends that gun owners cause it.

My point exactly!


I don't know if it's absurd. But it's irrelevant to this topic. What will be the questions on a mental health assessment or anything like that? Don't know... don't care.... Experts in the field will figure that out when the moment comes.

Experts in the field as of late have been very very stupid so forgive me for not putting trust in someone who thinks women can have penises.

Not in this thread. This is only about whether or not such a "graduation process" would help reduce the number of guns in the hands of irresponsible, inept and mentally incompetent people.

Why don't we make them take a test to be secure in their persons?

 

[CLAX1911]

They said you CAN. Stop the nonsense about matters you know NOTHING about. Off-topic in this thread, though.

Why I haven't you defined assault weapon yet? Is it because you're profoundly ignoring on the subject and you shouldn't be lecturing anyone else on this?

 

[Feynman Lives!]

Because your proposal completely ignores the problem and pretends that gun owners cause it.

The gun industry causes it. They need to be stopped! Their obsession is to make MORE profits selling guns. And they couldn't care less what they are used for later.

 

[Feynman Lives!]

Why I haven't you defined assault weapon yet?

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I have it on a macro. So feel free to ask for it as many times as you want.

 

[CLAX1911]

The gun industry causes it.

See this is why your proposal is rejected it's utterly uninformed.

The gun industry by which I assume you mean your gun manufacturers because you can't ever define terms does not convince people to commit murder.

To suggest that they do is the stupidest thing you've ever typed on this thread as of yet.

They need to be stopped!

No they need to be supported you need to be stopped.

Their obsession is to make MORE profits selling guns.

And more freedom of the people from you thank you gun manufacturers.

And they couldn't care less what they are used for later.

The vast vast vast majority of them are used for lawful purposes.

Pretending like the 0.0001% is the target of gun manufacturers is probably the stupidest thing you've ever posted in your entire posting career.

There was a time I bought into your education crap and now you completely devoid of any knowledge thanks for the disillusionment.

 

[CLAX1911]

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That's the definition for a semi-automatic pistol.

Let's define it and try not to embarrass yourself this time.

I have it on a macro.

You didn't read your macro. The link you provided went to semi-automatic pistol not assault weapon.

So feel free to ask for it as many times as you want.

Feel free to ever provide an answer or continue to avoid it more fun to watch you shuck and jive.

 

[Feynman Lives!]

The gun industry by which I assume you mean your gun manufacturers because you can't ever define terms does not convince people to commit murder.

They just provide the means.... And they do it for profit.

 

[Feynman Lives!]

That's the definition for a semi-automatic pistol.

Impressive! You managed to read THREE lines of a definition of about 1000 lines!

 

[RF667799]

Which works great if you KNOW they're a criminal or mentally incapacitated. My proposal would make it clear. Why would anybody object to that?



My point exactly!


I don't know if it's absurd. But it's irrelevant to this topic. What will be the questions on a mental health assessment or anything like that? Don't know... don't care.... Experts in the field will figure that out when the moment comes.



Not in this thread. This is only about whether or not such a "graduation process" would help reduce the number of guns in the hands of irresponsible, inept and mentally incompetent people.



No. But completely irrelevant to this thread.


The details will matter when we reach that point. This is only a general proposal. ALL of these are general proposals of what needs to be done. They are not intended to BE the law that will ultimately be passed by Congress.

Whatever they are intended to be, it's pretty clear you have no intention of supporting or even discussing them.

 

[CLAX1911]

They just provide the means.... And they do it for profit.

Then while you think everybody is as ill informed as you are.

They don't give a shit about the 20 million people that bought these things it's the 34 that commit murder

 

[RF667799]

Impressive! You managed to read THREE lines of a definition that is over 500 lines long!

What sense does it make to exempt a Mini-14 and not an AR-15? Both should be exempted to be consistent.

 

[CLAX1911]

Impressive! You managed to read THREE lines of a definition that is over 500 lines long!

That's the definition you provided me.

I didn't ask you for 500 lines of being buried in your snark I asked you for a definition.

Your refusal to provide it suggests intellectual incompetence

Thank you.

 

[CLAX1911]

Impressive! You managed to read THREE lines of a definition that is over 1000 lines long!

So you admit to data piling and not defining the terms I expected nothing less but the absolute standard dishonesty you always present.

 

[Feynman Lives!]

Then while you think everybody is as ill informed as you are.

How dare you! That's libel! I do NOT think everybody is ill informed. Just YOU!

 

[RF667799]

They just provide the means.... And they do it for profit.

The Gun Control Industry tries to facilitate stripping peaceful people of their Constitutional rights and civil liberties.

And they do it for profit.

 

[CLAX1911]

What sense does it make to exempt a Mini-14 and not an AR-15? Both should be exempted to be consistent.

It's a way for him to not define terms while trying to weasel out of defining terms.

It's like saying something is not physically possible and when someone argues against you they say read all the physics books.

 

[CLAX1911]

How dare you! I do NOT think everybody is ill informed. Just YOU!

Then you wouldn't be desperately avoiding defining your terms.

 

[RF667799]

It's a way for him to not define terms while trying to weasel out of defining terms.

It's like saying something is not physically possible and when someone argues against you they say read all the physics books.

Macros and spoon-fed talking points. That's the extent of his argument.

 

[CLAX1911]

How dare you! That's libel! I do NOT think everybody is ill informed. Just YOU!

If that's libel then posting the twaddle you posted in pretending that it's a proposal is contempt for everyone that reads it.

you must think everyone is dumb

 

[Feynman Lives!]

That's the definition you provided me.

I didn't ask you for 500 lines of being buried in your snark I asked you for a definition.

The definition IS 500 lines long. Whether you asked for it or not, that's how long it is!

You didn't think it over when you asked for a definition, did ya?