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How to ban guns without firing a single shot!

What does "infringed" actually mean to SCOTUS?
Well lately they've pretty much been getting things right per their rulings, so it looks like they only agree with reasonable restrictions, as do most law-abiding gun owners, and even some non gun-owning law-abiding citizens.
 
Well lately they've pretty much been getting things right per their rulings, so it looks like they only agree with reasonable restrictions, as do most law-abiding gun owners, and even some non gun-owning law-abiding citizens.
You do not know, apparently, what that critical verb means. Fail
 
What do you mean by "off the streets"?

It looks like your proposals would affect the fields, the ranges, the private property as well.
"Off the streets" I mean only in the hands of the military and law enforcement. Which is where assault weapons BELONG! Again: my proposals won't make that happen. Not likely within our life time, anyway. But it would be great if they did accomplish that one day.
 
I didn't say you did or didn't quote me out of context. I'm only asking that you use the quote function when you are referencing something I say so we can all see the context.
I did several times . You keep ignoring the fact you lied. Then you kept doubling down on your lies.
In any case.... you just appear obsessed with the DMV.
You forget that YOU BROUGHT UP THE DMV.

Classic Feynman : you bring up something to support your premise and when you are proven wrong or false , you pretend it’s someone else’ premise.
I have ZERO interest in debating driver's licenses.
Then do not lie about your gun licensure being as easy as standing in line at the dmv.
If you have an argument.... ANY argument... to rebut my proposal about a "graduation process" for a license in order to buy a gun... I'd be happy to listen (BTW, it wasn't mine..
I already rebutted it. Your “ graduation process “ clearly places an undue burden and restriction on responsible and knowledgeable gun owners in an attempt to use “ Jim Crow” type registration in order to prevent law abiding responsible and knowledgeable gun owners from exercising their constitutional rights.


.. I borrowed it from pro-gun advocates). Or, if you prefer to babble about the DMV, feel free to open your own thread.
Great. I sense another lie.
So how about you cite or quote that “ pro gun advocate” where you got your idea from.
Let’s see how close your licensing procedure lines up with theirs.
 
So, there you have it, folks: It depends on what the meaning of "is" is.
No it depends on the meaning of the words I listed in post 2807.

Why did you define the OP like you should have? Oh wait it's because you don't really have a point you just want to talk past everyone.
I guess that's a good an excuse as any, when you don't have any counter-arguments.
I can't count your arguments I don't know what you're talking about.

If you wanted people to counter your arguments you would have started with definition of terms you want to talk past people because you're dishonest and really really bad at this.
Thanks for your efforts. They have not gone to waste as they prove once again the lack of counter-arguments to rebut mine.
It's your burden to define terms
THAT term? THAT is what's keeping you from rebutting my proposals? I have sent the definition no less than 20 times.
Yep no idea what you're talking about. Quit clutching your pearls in defying and get to the definitions you should have done that you're op
Sigh! Ok... here you go. You know... when you're right, you don't MIND re-sending the same thing over and over.
Those were the terms you used.
At this point it's clear that nobody can assume you know ANYTHING....
That's why you're talking past everyone right? It's everyone else that's the problem that the person who failed to define terms.
But now you have no more excuses: QUOTE any one proposal... the one you believe you can do best with... and REBUT it!
Define terms.
 
"Off the streets" I mean only in the hands of the military and law enforcement. Which is where assault weapons BELONG!
Why should military law enforcement be allowed to assault people?
Again: my proposals won't make that happen.
Your proposals won't do anything
Not likely within our life time, anyway. But it would be great if they did accomplish that one day.
Well I don't what generations in the future have to deal with your crap so I'll oppose your proposal on that alone
 
That would be the ideal end result of my proposals. But not a realistic expectation that that would happen in the next four or five decades even WITH my proposals. . Feel free to comment if you think that getting ALL assault weapons off the streets, without confiscating them or banning possession to anybody who already owns one, is somehow a "bad" thing, though. I might even comment, if it's an even moderately INTELLIGENT argument. Not holding my breath, though.
If you want to have any kind of argument regarding intelligence do you have to bring some to the table in the first place. You need to define the terms I asked you to define. Why can't you why are you so reluctant to do this and take him a few moments the excuses you've given for why you refusing to define terms are far more than what you would need to just define them.

I think it's because you know these terms are stupid and meaningless and you don't want to expose your own ignorance. It's okay you already have we all know you're the only one in the dark.
 
I did several times .
You keep talking about the DMV. I don't give A CRAP about the DMV!

This thread is about my proposals. So, again, if you think you are able to rebut ANY of my proposals, quote it (using the forum's quote function) and go at it!

And the fact that I challenge you to do that over and over... and you still keep babbling about the DMV, tells me that you are unable to. So find somebody who CAN rebut any of my proposals and stop wasting our time.


I already rebutted it. Your “ graduation process “ clearly places an undue burden...
The fact that you think it's a burden does not rebut the fact that it would work! You can be sure that getting shot with an assault rifle is MORE an "undue burden" to the person who was shot and / or their family than you having to prove that you are not a criminal, that you are not crazy, and that you know how to handle a gun before you can purchase one. Which doesn't just mean that you know how to pull a trigger, but that you know the basic security and maintenance issues of owning a firearm.

You forget that YOU BROUGHT UP THE DMV.
Correct! When I said that it wouldn't affect somebody who is well versed, who understands guns (including safety and maintenance issues) well and is not a criminal or a lunatic any more than going to the DMV to get a driver's license.

If demonstrating that is too much of a "burden" (YOUR word) to you, then maybe YOU shouldn't be allowed to purchase a gun.

But this is just an example that does NOT make the DMV the topic of this thread. The topic is my proposals. And you can either take ONE of them and rebut it, or you can't. So far it's been clear that you can't.
 
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You keep talking about the DMV. I don't give A CRAP about the DMV!
You don't give a crap about anything all you care about is talking past people and pretending like that makes you smart.

All you have to do is define your terms.
This thread is about my proposals.
Your proposals are stupid and you should be ashamed for writing them. Have someone with this deranged of a viewpoint managed to even graduate high school is surprising to me.
So, again, if you think you are able to rebut ANY of my proposals, quote it (using the forum's quote function) and go at it!
None of your proposals will prevent any massive shootings you don't know anything about the subject
And the fact that I challenge you to do that over and over... and you still keep babbling about the DMV, tells me that you are unable to. So find somebody who CAN rebut any of my proposals and stop wasting our time.
You didn't challenge anybody.
The fact that you think it's a burden does not rebut the fact that it would work!
No it won't. So I'll explain to you why it won't. Most of your proposals seem to be focused around lawful gun owners people who do mass shootings probably don't care about that and they can get the guns because they're available. They don't care if it's legal or not they'll just do it insteing on murdering about 15-20 people they probably don't care about breaking any other law.

And just like that 100% of your entire proposal has been rebutted
You can be sure that getting shot with an assault rifle is MORE an "undue burden" to the person who was shot and / or their family than you having to prove that you are not a criminal, that you are not crazy, and that you know how to handle a gun before you can purchase one. Which doesn't just mean that you know how to pull a trigger, but that you know the basic security and maintenance issues of owning a firearm.
So if someone was pointing at 30 06 at your skull and someone else was pointing at 223 at your skull because the 30 ought 6 has a bolt action you think you're more likely to survive if they fired?

This is why anybody who uses the term assault weapon or assault rifle is utterly brain dead.
If demonstrating that is too much of a "burden" (YOUR word) to you, then maybe YOU shouldn't be allowed to purchase a gun.
The fact that you think a smaller caliber is somehow more dangerous because of the presence of a bayonet lug on the rifle you can't have an opinion you're not well enough informed on the topic.
 
You keep talking about the DMV. I don't give A CRAP about the DMV!

Then you shouldn’t have brought it up!!!

You are the one that brought up the dmv as a good comparison of how simple and easy your gun licensing would be.

Which we all know now is a complete lie.
This thread is about my proposals. So, again, if you think you are able to rebut ANY of my proposals, quote it (using the forum's quote function) and go at it!
Already done. We just rebutted your gun licensing proposal.
And the fact that I challenge you to do that over and over... and you still keep babbling about the DMV, tells me that you are unable to. So find somebody who CAN rebut any of my proposals and stop wasting our time.



The fact that you think it's a burden does not rebut the fact that it would work! You can be sure that getting shot with an assault rifle is MORE an "undue burden" to the person who was shot and / or their family than you having to prove that you are not a criminal, that you are not crazy, and that you know how to handle a gun before you can purchase one. Which doesn't just mean that you know how to pull a trigger, but that you know the basic security and maintenance issues of owning a firearm.

If demonstrating that is too much of a "burden" (YOUR word) to you, then maybe YOU shouldn't be allowed to purchase a gun.
 
"Off the streets" I mean only in the hands of the military and law enforcement. Which is where assault weapons BELONG! Again: my proposals won't make that happen. Not likely within our life time, anyway. But it would be great if they did accomplish that one day.

So then you do refer to an ultimate goal of a complete ban on guns in general.

And thanks for verifying yet another deceitful use of language.
 
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Then you shouldn’t have brought it up!!!
I absolutely SHOULD. If getting a gun license is a bigger burden to you than getting a driver's license, then maybe you SHOULDN'T have a gun.

That is just for comparison. It does NOT give you some license to derail the thread by changing the topic to the DMV.

Already done. We just rebutted your gun licensing proposal.
I see... So your best argument was that it would be too much of a burden for you to demonstrate that you know how to operate a gun (including safety and maintenance issues), and that you're not a criminal.

What you have proven is that you're the PERFECT example of somebody who should NOT own a gun. And something tells me that you do. THAT is what this is intended to correct!

My case is made...
 
So then you do refer to an ultimate goal of a complete ban on guns in general.
Of course authoritarians want a total ban on every right you have that's the end goal.

If you have rights you'll go to elections and vote. He's in the authority of the authoritarians id challenge
And thanks for verifying yet another deceitful use of language.
 
I absolutely SHOULD. If getting a gun license is a bigger burden to you than getting a driver's license, then maybe you SHOULDN'T have a gun.
We already have one it's called the second amendment that license is everyone in the country to have a firearm.
That is just for comparison. It does NOT give you some license to derail the thread by changing the topic to the DMV.
Maybe you should pick a better comparison seems like he's got you there.
I see... So your best argument was that it would be too much of a burden for you to demonstrate that you know how to operate a gun (including safety and maintenance issues), and that you're not a criminal.
Well to rebut your proposals. First you have to explain what you think they might do and how they're going to results in fewer mass shooting because from what I read of it and it was all of it none of the things you proposed it all had anything at all to do with mass shootings. It's mostly just about taking the rights away from people so it seems like you would like mass shootings happening so it gives you an excuse to enforce authoritarianism.
What you have proven is that you're the PERFECT example of somebody who should NOT own a gun.
But based on the amount of knowledge you have about the subject that's probably good enough reason that someone should have a gun.
And something tells me that you do. THAT is what this is intended to correct!

My case is made...
Well if you believe what do you need any of us for get elected make a law. You should win you in a Landslide if you're as brilliant as you think you are.
 
Only assault weapons.
So if someone clubs someone over the head with a brick you shouldn't be allowed to have that brick or any brick?

Again I'm operating under the assumption that assault weapon is a weapon used to assault somebody because you can't define terms
But I'm happy to see that you believe my proposals would accomplish this.
All they would accomplish is getting you laughed at by people way smarter than you.
 
We already have one it's called the second amendment ...
Don't embarrass yourself! If you knew what you were talking about, you'd be in the threads that are ABOUT the 2nd A

Which, BTW, is my favorite topic in the world. So I would suggest you stay away from it unless you are VERY prepared!
 
So if someone clubs someone over the head with a brick you shouldn't be allowed to have that brick or any brick?

This thread is about assault weapons. If you have a proposal to make about bricks, open your own thread!
 
Don't embarrass yourself!
With you here that's not possible.
If you knew what you were talking about, you'd be in the threads that are ABOUT the 2nd A
There doesn't need to be the only people that want to deny them are like you.
Which, BTW, is my favorite topic in the world!
Yes so you can play The complex clan version of the interpretation of the amendment so that you can keep those black people from you shooting your for enslaving them or trying to Lynch them yeah I understand I've heard your viewpoints on the 2nd amendment you were unaware that the origin was the ku Klux Klan.

See you stupidly support the ku Klux Klan without even knowing it I can't be embarrassed except for for you.
 
Only assault weapons. But I'm happy to see that you believe my proposals would accomplish this.
The problem is that you have no comprehension of what you “read” and cannot see to realize why it is stupid.

For example, you previously linked to the proposed 2023 Assault Weapons Ban as a source of a definition (though I note that your link seems to have disappeared).


Under that exceedingly stupid definition, the pistol illustrated below with an 8 round magazine is considered an “assault weapon”. Once again, proof that gun control advocates are ignorant of basic technology and how things work.

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Only assault weapons. But I'm happy to see that you believe my proposals would accomplish this.

No, you proposed a de facto ban on all guns in your OP when you proposed banning ammunition. That's even leaving aside the malleable nature of your definition of "assault weapon".
 
This thread is about assault weapons.
Like a frying pan used to hit somebody the only way something can be an assault weapon if somebody's assaulted with it
If you have a proposal to make about bricks, open your own thread!
The only way something can be classified as an assault weapon as if it was used to assault somebody if that's not what you mean what the hell do you mean?
 
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