How the “Unvaccinated” Got It Right

[Paradoxical]

How childish. 'It's better to keep one's mouth closed and be thought a fool, than to open it and have all doubt removed'. Ponder on that; no excepts required.

Jeebers, snake, By gosh golly. I neber hurd dat line befo. You did a funny.

 

[Paradoxical]

By the way. Woody Harrelson is a liberal. SOME liberals are waking up to the BILLION dollar scam foisted onto the entire world by politicians who are allowed to get tens of thousands of dollars from corporations as protection money so that they maintain their silence. This includes a stupid law from the 1980s that allows Big Pharm to donate and give royalties to both the NIH and CDC.

A crooked politician spy here in America named Swalwell lives like a king traveling first class and eating at the finest restaurants at hotels for kings and queens of $1,000.00 a night and wracked up $400,000.00 in travel expenses paid for by donors and he isn't even in a campaign. Pelosi the queen came in just behind him.

 

[snakestretcher]

By the way. Woody Harrelson is a liberal. SOME liberals are waking up to the BILLION dollar scam foisted onto the entire world by politicians who are allowed to get tens of thousands of dollars from corporations as protection money so that they maintain their silence. This includes a stupid law from the 1980s that allows Big Pharm to donate and give royalties to both the NIH and CDC.

A crooked politician spy here in America named Swalwell lives like a king traveling first class and eating at the finest restaurants at hotels for kings and queens of $1,000.00 a night and wracked up $400,000.00 in travel expenses paid for by donors and he isn't even in a campaign. Pelosi the queen came in just behind him.

Should we revisit Trump's fraud, theft, lying and cheating, or would that be too embarrassing for you?

Trump’s False Election Claims Cost Taxpayers Over $500m [Infographic]

A Washington Post analysis has found that Trump's refusal to concede the election has cost U.S. taxpayers hundreds of millions of dollars.

www.forbes.com

 

[Paradoxical]

Should we revisit Trump's fraud, theft, lying and cheating, or would that be too embarrassing for you?

Trump’s False Election Claims Cost Taxpayers Over $500m [Infographic]

A Washington Post analysis has found that Trump's refusal to concede the election has cost U.S. taxpayers hundreds of millions of dollars.

www.forbes.com

But............TRUMP.

People when caught without any answers invoke Trump so much that I think we need to start calling these deflections TWUMP and I will do that as a one-word reply to posts like yours from you or anyone else from now on
Truth Will Undermine My Position. TWUMP

 

[VySky]

LOL. Some people are starting to wake up. How much does Pfizer spend on advertising and bribes to politicians called donations?

You know you kinda have to admire them. The drug cartels have to send out killers to torture and murder little kids even, and cut their heads off when they cross them. AQ messy business. Pfizer just buys ads on TV and the anchors know that their graft money will go away if they talk smack.

No killings are needed. Just the media, the politicians, the NIH, and CDC in their pockets. THAT kind of crime where you no longer need to kill people is the Sinaloa cartels' dream.

No, this is what Pfizer spends its profits on.

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The 65th Annual Grammy Awards held in Los Angeles Sunday night and broadcast on CBS featured the Grammy’s usual tribute to the Prince of Darkness, this time apparently sponsored by pharmaceutical giant Pfizer.

The Satanic performance of the 2022 hit song Unholy by Sam Smith and transgender singer Kim Petras (“Mummy don’t know Daddy’s getting hot, At the Body Shop, doing something unholy”) was followed by a promo that said the Grammy Awards show was sponsored by Pfizer.

Jill Biden made a “surprise” appearance at the end of the show. TGP report here. (Unholy is definitely a Biden family values song.)

Satanic 'Unholy' Grammy Performance Presented by... Pfizer? | The Gateway Pundit | by Kristinn Taylor

The 65th Annual Grammy Awards held in Los Angeles Sunday night and broadcast on CBS featured the Grammy’s usual tribute to the Prince of Darkness, this time apparently sponsored by pharmaceutical giant Pfizer.

www.thegatewaypundit.com

 

[snakestretcher]

But............TRUMP.

People when caught without any answers invoke Trump so much that I think we need to start calling these deflections TWUMP and I will do that as a one-word reply to posts like yours from you or anyone else from now on
Truth Will Undermine My Position. TWUMP

It wasn't me who brought up the subject of crooked politicians; that was you. Start from there before making a fool of yourself.

 

[Paradoxical]

No, this is what Pfizer spends its profits on.

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The 65th Annual Grammy Awards held in Los Angeles Sunday night and broadcast on CBS featured the Grammy’s usual tribute to the Prince of Darkness, this time apparently sponsored by pharmaceutical giant Pfizer.

The Satanic performance of the 2022 hit song Unholy by Sam Smith and transgender singer Kim Petras (“Mummy don’t know Daddy’s getting hot, At the Body Shop, doing something unholy”) was followed by a promo that said the Grammy Awards show was sponsored by Pfizer.

Jill Biden made a “surprise” appearance at the end of the show. TGP report here. (Unholy is definitely a Biden family values song.)

Satanic 'Unholy' Grammy Performance Presented by... Pfizer? | The Gateway Pundit | by Kristinn Taylor

The 65th Annual Grammy Awards held in Los Angeles Sunday night and broadcast on CBS featured the Grammy’s usual tribute to the Prince of Darkness, this time apparently sponsored by pharmaceutical giant Pfizer.

www.thegatewaypundit.com

Yes. That too. I have zero desire to watch Hollywood pat actors on the back for doing what they get paid millions to do. It would be like watching an annual meeting of Pfizer employees cheering the best salesman of the year.

 

[Paradoxical]

It wasn't me who brought up the subject of crooked politicians; that was you. Start from there before making a fool of yourself.

TWUMP is your GOTO reply

 

[VySky]

It wasn't me who brought up the subject of crooked politicians; that was you. Start from there before making a fool of yourself.

Why do folks for the left alway use personal attacks? Just something I've noticed. Most of us have learned sticks and stones.

Except liberal hacks.

 

[Paradoxical]

Why do folks for the left alway use personal attacks? Just something I've noticed. Most of us have learned sticks and stones.

Except liberal hacks.

it's a TWUMP response that allows them to deflect and divert from the topic being discussed. I would be rich if I got a penny for every "But.......Trump' reply to a post.
Truth
Will
Undermine
My
Position

Is their reply and when they use Trump it is the avoidance response when people have issues with relationships, jobs, family, drugs.

 

[snakestretcher]

A

it's a TWUMP response that allows them to deflect and divert from the topic being discussed. I would be rich if I got a penny for every "But.......Trump' reply to a post.
Truth
Will
Undermine
My
Position

Is their reply and when they use Trump it is the avoidance response when people have issues with relationships, jobs, family, drugs.

And yet you always deflect to 'liberals' whenever whatever point you try to make is challenged and corrected. I would be a wealthy man if I got a penny every time you blamed 'liberals' for whatever is wrong in your life. Works both ways mate.

 

[Paradoxical]

A

And yet you always deflect to 'liberals' whenever whatever point you try to make is challenged and corrected. I would be a wealthy man if I got a penny every time you blamed 'liberals' for whatever is wrong in your life. Works both ways mate.

Again, accusing others of doing exactly what you do.

 

[snakestretcher]

Again, accusing others of doing exactly what you do.

And you don't?

 

[jaeger19]

OMG. You debate just like a liberal.

Please explain in detail..
I find it mildly offensive considering I am a conservative using facts and logic to destroy your argument.
You are implying only liberals use intelligence..facts and science in debate.

 

[jaeger19]

it's a TWUMP response that allows them to deflect and divert from the topic being discussed. I would be rich if I got a penny for every "But.......Trump' reply to a post.
Truth
Will
Undermine
My
Position

Is their reply and when they use Trump it is the avoidance response when people have issues with relationships, jobs, family, drugs.

Um sir..you actually stated you refused to read scientific research when presented to you.
And have demonstrated that you couldn't understand it when you attempted to critique one piece of scientific study.
Yet you continue to post non sense.

If there is someone who is a master of avoidance of fact. It's you.

 

[Paradoxical]

Please explain in detail..
I find it mildly offensive considering I am a conservative using facts and logic to destroy your argument.
You are implying only liberals use intelligence..facts and science in debate.

There you go again. Liberals have this penchant for projection and what you do in many of your posts. You are the one who has been destroyed, particularly over CVovid, and you are supposed to be some conservative and a doctor, no less.

I didn't imply that they used science in their debates. I said they claimed to use science in their debates when it is and was the other way around. I am and was the one who used science and people on the left, like you, ridiculed me now for nearly three years over my stance on masks and vaccines, and science now shows I was 100% correct om immunity and masks not being worth very much at all unless someone is afraid of some hobo sneezing directly into their face.

 

[Paradoxical]

Um sir..you actually stated you refused to read scientific research when presented to you.
And have demonstrated that you couldn't understand it when you attempted to critique one piece of scientific study.
Yet you continue to post non sense.

If there is someone who is a master of avoidance of fact. It's you.

A doctor would defend natural immunity because a doctor should know that when someone catches and defeats a disease via his own immune system that his own body has built up what is called natural immunity.
A doctor would and should know all about why doctors wear masks and it is not to stop Covid. A doctor should know and should have researched all available SCIENCE, as I did, especially from the experts who are aerobiologists, and informed the public that they found evidence that Covid goes right through masks and it doesn't take a cough or a sneeze. A doctor is derelict in his duty if he ignores the science, the math, and the logic that the states that mandated masks fared no better than those that did not.

If you wanna talk about being annoyed that I say you are no conservative, I am annoyed that you continually flout your alleged superiority over me for no reason other than your claim to be a doctor. It is annoying when someone such as you ignores the facts and evidence. It is like Mayorkis and Harris seeing thousands of people just walking across the border and saying with a straight face "There is no border problem". It is downright irritating.

 

[jaeger19]

There you go again. Liberals have this penchant for projection and what you do in many of your posts. You are the one who has been destroyed, particularly over CVovid, and you are supposed to be some conservative and a doctor, no less.

I didn't imply that they used science in their debates. I said they claimed to use science in their debates when it is and was the other way around. I am and was the one who used science and people on the left, like you, ridiculed me now for nearly three years over my stance on masks and vaccines, and science now shows I was 100% correct om immunity and masks not being worth very much at all unless someone is afraid of some hobo sneezing directly into their face.

You should look up "projection".
And then think about your posts.

Just answer this...how can you claim " to use science"..
When you blatantly refused to read the science placed before you?
Remember " I need an excerpt? Lol.

How can you claim to " use science" when you have shown yo are unable to critique scientific studies ?

PARADOX..The only question here is... what will it take for you to realize your masters have lied to you . .?

 

[Paradoxical]

You should look up "projection".
And then think about your posts.

Just answer this...how can you claim " to use science"..
When you blatantly refused to read the science placed before you?
Remember " I need an excerpt? Lol.

How can you claim to " use science" when you have shown yo are unable to critique scientific studies ?

PARADOX..The only question here is... what will it take for you to realize your masters have lied to you . .?

You claim science is a stupid report by a couple people who did a report on prisoners catching Covid when they are in the cell with unvaccinated people.

The idiotic study ignored the fact that all prisoners mingled in the yard for breakfast, lunch, dinner, and exercise.
It ignored the fact that studies show that vaccinated people also can transmit Covid to others.

You bow to the altar of anyone with a title or in some government position. This is why and how Christianity took hold all across the world. Humans honor those with titles and if you were/are a priest you get the sheep to bow down to you because they have memorized the bible and are therefore more expert than you and cannot debate you because you have memorized a document and would never lie. the same thing applies to any doctor, scientist, or government official. We humans stupidly quote idiots like Buttigieg, AOC, Kamala, Joy Reid, and Dr. Fauci as if these clowns suddenly were instilled with infallibility like a pope by God because they were elected or appointed some position.

Sorry, jaeger, I don't bow and kneel to doctors scientists, government officials, or anyone else, for that matter. They also lie, fabricate, and massage the data to fit their agenda and ignore facts, such as natural immunity and that masks don't work. This doesn't mean that they are always wrong or that I wouldn't seek out a dentist for a root canal. It means that they can and do lie and they are sadly mistaken on important issues. A title means nothing to me. My friend the street sweeper is smarter than many doctors.

 

[jaeger19]

A doctor would defend natural immunity because a doctor should know that when someone catches and defeats a disease via his own immune system that his own body has built up what is called natural immunity.
A doctor would and should know all about why doctors wear masks and it is not to stop Covid. A doctor should know and should have researched all available SCIENCE, as I did, especially from the experts who are aerobiologists, and informed the public that they found evidence that Covid goes right through masks and it doesn't take a cough or a sneeze. A doctor is derelict in his duty if he ignores the science, the math, and the logic that the states that mandated masks fared no better than those that did not.

If you wanna talk about being annoyed that I say you are no conservative, I am annoyed that you continually flout your alleged superiority over me for no reason other than your claim to be a doctor. It is annoying when someone such as you ignores the facts and evidence. It is like Mayorkis and Harris seeing thousands of people just walking across the border and saying with a straight face "There is no border problem". It is downright irritating.

1. Defend natural immunity ? You think I should defend people going out and catching a virus that can kill them?. Or send them into the hospital ? Or catch a virus and give it to some who then does?
That makes zero sense and is frankly dumb.
2. Yes..exactly someone should read all the research including those studying the physics of airborne particles and masks.

https://journals.asm.org/doi/10.1128/mSphere.00637-20

AND read the research of real world studies.
When one does so...the overwhelming evidence is that masks work as source control..and there us some evidence that in a small way masks
may reduce the mask wearers likelihood of catching the virus.

The fact is Paradox..you cannot understand tge science. In fact you refuse to read it.

My superiority over you has to do with the fact that you cannot understand the science while I can. Now being a doctor certainly helps in that regard..
But..I have given you ample opportunities for you to demonstrate your ability to understand the science..
You have repeatedly demonstrated that you aren't willing to read the science much less understand it..

 

[Paradoxical]

1. Defend natural immunity ? You think I should defend people going out and catching a virus that can kill them?. Or send them into the hospital ? Or catch a virus and give it to some who then does?
That makes zero sense and is frankly dumb.
2. Yes..exactly someone should read all the research including those studying the physics of airborne particles and masks.

https://journals.asm.org/doi/10.1128/mSphere.00637-20

AND read the research of real world studies.
When one does so...the overwhelming evidence is that masks work as source control..and there us some evidence that in a small way masks
may reduce the mask wearers likelihood of catching the virus.

The fact is Paradox..you cannot understand tge science. In fact you refuse to read it.

My superiority over you has to do with the fact that you cannot understand the science while I can. Now being a doctor certainly helps in that regard..
But..I have given you ample opportunities for you to demonstrate your ability to understand the science..
You have repeatedly demonstrated that you aren't willing to read the science much less understand it..

With the advent of the internet and now with ChatGPT, any "superiority" over me you may have been able to lay claim to is gone. I find myself getting into arguments with ChatGPT because, like yourself and others, they can only spit out answers based on what has been input and because media is dominated by the left, like Wikipedia, their responses are heavily skewed towards the left. I won't bore others with the full exchange but suffice to say, the jury is out even with liberal ChatGPT. Here it is: (I forced ChatGPT to apologize)


My reply to Chat GPT of a series of responses that were heavily skewed and gave wrong or poor information: You gave an example of those who had been vaccinated and those who were not vaccinated but not of those who had been vaccinated versus those with immunity because of a previous infection. Why is that?



I apologize for the confusion. My previous response was intended to provide a general overview of the potential for vaccinated individuals and those with prior infection to transmit the virus to others, and how this can impact the decision-making process regarding vaccination.
To answer your question more directly, there is limited data available that directly compares the transmission potential of vaccinated individuals versus those with natural immunity from a previous infection. However, both groups have been shown to be capable of transmitting the virus to others, albeit at potentially different rates.
One study conducted in Israel found that the risk of transmission was significantly lower among individuals with prior infection who had received a single dose of vaccine, compared to those who had not been vaccinated at all [1]. However, it is important to note that this study only looked at one specific population and may not be generalizable to all individuals.
Overall, it is currently unclear whether natural immunity or vaccination provides greater protection against transmitting the virus to others. However, both strategies are recommended by public health experts as important tools for controlling the spread of COVID-19 and reducing the risk of severe illness and death.
[1] Goldberg, Y., Mandel, M., Woodbridge, Y., Fluss, R., Novikov, I., Yaari, R., Ziv, A., Freedman, L. S., & BNT162b2 Vaccine Effectiveness Study Group. (2021). Protection and risk of infectiousness of fully vaccinated populations with or without prior SARS-CoV-2 infection. Nature medicine, 27(9), 1415-1420. https://doi.org/10.1038/s41591-021-01413-7


As you can see, ChatGPT relies on so-called experts. Since those with opposing views were silenced by Twitter and others and threatened with loss of their jobs, those voices are not recorded.

 

[jaeger19]

You claim science is a stupid report by a couple people who did a report on prisoners catching Covid when they are in the cell with unvaccinated people.

The idiotic study ignored the fact that all prisoners mingled in the yard for breakfast, lunch, dinner, and exercise.
It ignored the fact that studies show that vaccinated people also can transmit Covid to others.

You bow to the altar of anyone with a title or in some government position. This is why and how Christianity took hold all across the world. Humans honor those with titles and if you were/are a priest you get the sheep to bow down to you because they have memorized the bible and are therefore more expert than you and cannot debate you because you have memorized a document and would never lie. the same thing applies to any doctor, scientist, or government official. We humans stupidly quote idiots like Buttigieg, AOC, Kamala, Joy Reid, and Dr. Fauci as if these clowns suddenly were instilled with infallibility like a pope by God because they were elected or appointed some position.

Sorry, jaeger, I don't bow and kneel to doctors scientists, government officials, or anyone else, for that matter. They also lie, fabricate, and massage the data to fit their agenda and ignore facts, such as natural immunity and that masks don't work. This doesn't mean that they are always wrong or that I wouldn't seek out a dentist for a root canal. It means that they can and do lie and they are sadly mistaken on important issues. A title means nothing to me. My friend the street sweeper is smarter than many doctors.

Paradox..you aren't smart enough to realize that the mingling of prisoners would be more likely to LOWER the difference seen in transmission between the two groups.
The fact that there was a statistical difference between the two groups DESPITE the effect of co mingling. ( which would decrease the difference between the two groups). Means that the vaccines effect on reducing transmission was even greater than what was found!!.
You silly.

Paradox. Because I can read and understand the research..I BOW TO KNOW ONE..thats what you don't get.

Meanwhile you bow and scrape to your masters who tell you what you want to hear and play up to your fear..
And your masters have been wrong..time and time again.
And yet you still bow and scrape to them..
When will you realize that have lied to you

 

[Lursa]

How many more hundreds of times must we go over this mask nonsense? This Covid lie reminds me of snake oil salesmen on a train traveling through as many states as possible and sending advance people into the towns to announce his arrival at the town square. In the crowd are some shills and the speaker is Dr. Fauci selling magical masks wand he says they work so well, that you should wear two and today only, he has a special of two masks for the price of one which is the cue for a shill to raise his hand and say "My grannie in the town this here gentleman comes from died causing she jus wore one cheap mask. She bein only 93. But my kusen Billy Bob wore TWO masks here form Dr, Fausti and by crackity, he is still worked on da hog farm, fit as a fiddle." Another lady waves her hand excitedly "I be hearing dat he sold out of masks two towns over and everyone wore dem and just 5 hundred people died out of a thousand"

Except you've been hilariously wrong for 2 yrs. See my sig for the "Reader's Digest" summary.

 

[jaeger19]

With the advent of the internet and now with ChatGPT, any "superiority" over me you may have been able to lay claim to is gone. I find myself getting into arguments with ChatGPT because, like yourself and others, they can only spit out answers based on what has been input and because media is dominated by the left, like Wikipedia, their responses are heavily skewed towards the left. I won't bore others with the full exchange but suffice to say, the jury is out even with liberal ChatGPT. Here it is: (I forced ChatGPT to apologize)


My reply to Chat GPT of a series of responses that were heavily skewed and gave wrong or poor information: You gave an example of those who had been vaccinated and those who were not vaccinated but not of those who had been vaccinated versus those with immunity because of a previous infection. Why is that?



I apologize for the confusion. My previous response was intended to provide a general overview of the potential for vaccinated individuals and those with prior infection to transmit the virus to others, and how this can impact the decision-making process regarding vaccination.
To answer your question more directly, there is limited data available that directly compares the transmission potential of vaccinated individuals versus those with natural immunity from a previous infection. However, both groups have been shown to be capable of transmitting the virus to others, albeit at potentially different rates.
One study conducted in Israel found that the risk of transmission was significantly lower among individuals with prior infection who had received a single dose of vaccine, compared to those who had not been vaccinated at all [1]. However, it is important to note that this study only looked at one specific population and may not be generalizable to all individuals.
Overall, it is currently unclear whether natural immunity or vaccination provides greater protection against transmitting the virus to others. However, both strategies are recommended by public health experts as important tools for controlling the spread of COVID-19 and reducing the risk of severe illness and death.
[1] Goldberg, Y., Mandel, M., Woodbridge, Y., Fluss, R., Novikov, I., Yaari, R., Ziv, A., Freedman, L. S., & BNT162b2 Vaccine Effectiveness Study Group. (2021). Protection and risk of infectiousness of fully vaccinated populations with or without prior SARS-CoV-2 infection. Nature medicine, 27(9), 1415-1420. https://doi.org/10.1038/s41591-021-01413-7


As you can see, ChatGPT relies on so-called experts. Since those with opposing views were silenced by Twitter and others and threatened with loss of their jobs, those voices are not recorded.

Dude..no.
First..access to the internet only helps if you use it appropriately.
If you are using ChatGPT? You are not using it appropriately.
You are basically again relying on an " expert" rather than evaluating the evidence for yourself in an objective manner.

You realize that your right wing blogs etc?
Have they presented the research o have shown you? Well why not if according to you..they are non biased.

The way to use the internet is to at least do a search for the research. Read all the peer reviewed research. Then research that is pre print.
Better yet if you have a access to a medical search engine like the Cochrane database.

This you tube..and Chat whatever is not tge way to get unbiased knowledge.

 

[Paradoxical]

Paradox..you aren't smart enough to realize that the mingling of prisoners would be more likely to LOWER the difference seen in transmission between the two groups.
The fact that there was a statistical difference between the two groups DESPITE the effect of co mingling. ( which would decrease the difference between the two groups). Means that the vaccines effect on reducing transmission was even greater than what was found!!.
You silly.

Paradox. Because I can read and understand the research..I BOW TO KNOW ONE..thats what you don't get.

Meanwhile you bow and scrape to your masters who tell you what you want to hear and play up to your fear..
And your masters have been wrong..time and time again.
And yet you still bow and scrape to them..
When will you realize that have lied to you

Thanks for the laugh and the confirmation of my long-running posts here about how the far left (you and others) have co-opted the tactics of religion, specifically Christianity, to lure the unsuspecting and malleable minds over to their side with comments such as "you aren't smart enough" and "I can read and understand the research. These sorts of comments just play on the Christian tactics of indoctrination where they claim that nonbelievers are not smart (like they are) because if they were smart, they would believe the "bible' which is just THEIR belief that the Bible is the truth, like you claiming your interpretation of the data is the only one possible and conceivable.

Secondly your comment about"I can read and understand the "research' is the same as a Christian telling a nonbeliever that "I can read and understand the Bible."

Conservatives see right through your tactics.

PS. I didn't see their proof. I didn't see the manner in which they did the testing. I didn't see evidence the prisoners didn't just make crap up like they always do. I didn't see the test results. I didn't see confirmation that they weren't moved from cell to cell. I didn't see how long the prisoners were there. This was just a garbage report put out by people that jumped on the bandwagon of "research' to make a name for themselves ad is one of the crappiest reports ever.