How the “Unvaccinated” Got It Right

[jaeger19]

How abusive and stupid. I'm sure it's understandably a matter of $$ and your practice's policies, but I'd stand up and ask him/her..."if I'm so incompetent, so wrong, why would you accept any medical treatment from me?" And open the door for them. (Not ask them to leave...just to show how irrational they were. If they want to leave, let 'em.)

Well.. in many cases..like that one. They can't leave..they are literally drowning in their own lung fluids from covid.
Or in the case of the husband...we don't want to harm the wife by having him take her out of there because we angered him.
I have patients that are afraid to get vaccinated because they fear if their husband finds out they are vaccinated. The husband will divorce them.
Money generally isn't an issue since covid is expensive to treat and often you lose money on covid patients.

 

[jaeger19]

People are leaving the workforce across the board. It’s nothing earth shattering. But by all means, make a mountain out of a mole hill.

Oh, and find better sources.

So you have zero evidence to refute my evidence..
Lmao.

 

[Lursa]

Well.. in many cases..like that one. They can't leave..they are literally drowning in their own lung fluids from covid.
Or in the case of the husband...we don't want to harm the wife by having him take her out of there because we angered him.
I have patients that are afraid to get vaccinated because they fear if their husband finds out they are vaccinated. The husband will divorce them.

Wow, that's so sad. Amazingly sad also that there are so many, literally terminally, stupid willfully ignorant people in this country.

 

[Lursa]

Money generally isn't an issue since covid is expensive to treat and often you lose money on covid patients.

I meant the loss of a patient for the practice. I didnt want to discount that as irrelevant.

 

[jaeger19]

I meant the loss of a patient for the practice. I didnt want to discount that as irrelevant.

Oh within an outpatient clinic if they are disruptive..they are asked to leave as long as it's not an emergent situation.
However you still have this.
" It isn’t just nurses. In Springfield, an anti-vaccine protest threatened Walmart pharmacists. “What they’re doing is crimes against humanity,” anti-vaxxer Christopher Key wrote on Facebook. “And if they do not stand down immediately, then they could be executed.”

https://www.kansascity.com/opinion/editorials/article253734403.html

 

[Paradoxical]

Oh within an outpatient clinic if they are disruptive..they are asked to leave as long as it's not an emergent situation.
However you still have this.
" It isn’t just nurses. In Springfield, an anti-vaccine protest threatened Walmart pharmacists. “What they’re doing is crimes against humanity,” anti-vaxxer Christopher Key wrote on Facebook. “And if they do not stand down immediately, then they could be executed.”

https://www.kansascity.com/opinion/editorials/article253734403.html

#Wheree I live, the doctors and nurses protested carrying signs outside of the hospital for months against their policy that they all be vaccinated. You seem to think that everyone thinks like you do.

 

[jaeger19]

I will answer your post as soon as you respond to my post 223 as follows, which you have conveniently ignored.

I think you misunderstood, I wasn't looking for the "risk of dying" for unvaccinated individuals. I was looking for actual deaths among the unvaccinated in that age group. Then, of course, I need to see how many in that same age group who were vaccinated died.

PS. I know these gubment wonks like to use word salad on a par with Kamala Harris, but why use terminology like "risk of dying" instead of:

In the age group of 18-19, we found that X percentage of the vaccinated people from 18-29 wound up biting the dust, and X percentage of the populace who weren't vaccinated died.

Being a doctor and in the know, I'm sure you can get that information for me ASAP?

Actual deaths.
In the age group. Sp far.
18 to 29 6877.
Unvaccinated 5500.
30 to 39 16971
Unvaccinated. 13501
40 to 49
38513.
Unvaccinated 30821
Age 50 to 64. 168944.
Unvaccinated 135551.

COVID Data Tracker

CDC’s home for COVID-19 data. Visualizations, graphs, and data in one easy-to-use website.

covid.cdc.gov

Why Do Vaccinated People Represent Most COVID-19 Deaths Right Now? | KFF

This post explores why the share of COVID-19 deaths among those who are vaccinated has risen, Factors include a rising share of the population that is vaccinated, waning immune protection and low uptake of boosters, and changes in immunity among the unvaccinated.

www.kff.org

 

[jaeger19]

#Wheree I live, the doctors and nurses protested carrying signs outside of the hospital for months against their policy that they all be vaccinated. You seem to think that everyone thinks like you do.

Really..so there were no doctors or nurses in the hospital then.?
"The American Medical Association (AMA) today released a new survey (PDF) among practicing physicians that shows more than 96 percent of surveyed U.S. physicians have been fully vaccinated for COVID-19, with no significant difference in vaccination rates across regions".

AMA survey shows over 96% of doctors fully vaccinated against COVID-19

New data point toward high COVID-19 vaccine confidence among practicing physicians.

www.ama-assn.org

However Paradox you are welcome to provide your evidence that the majority of doctors feel as you do. LMAO.

 

[Paradoxical]

Actual deaths.
In the age group. Sp far.
18 to 29 6877.
Unvaccinated 5500.
30 to 39 16971
Unvaccinated. 13501
40 to 49
38513.
Unvaccinated 30821
Age 50 to 64. 168944.
Unvaccinated 135551.

COVID Data Tracker

CDC’s home for COVID-19 data. Visualizations, graphs, and data in one easy-to-use website.

covid.cdc.gov

Why Do Vaccinated People Represent Most COVID-19 Deaths Right Now? | KFF

This post explores why the share of COVID-19 deaths among those who are vaccinated has risen, Factors include a rising share of the population that is vaccinated, waning immune protection and low uptake of boosters, and changes in immunity among the unvaccinated.

www.kff.org

Thanks for providing the proof that the vaccine wanes and people die. The initial claim was that it was 99.8 % effective and they kept moving and hiding the ball. It appears no more effective than doing nothing.

 

[Paradoxical]

Really..so there were no doctors or nurses in the hospital then.?
"The American Medical Association (AMA) today released a new survey (PDF) among practicing physicians that shows more than 96 percent of surveyed U.S. physicians have been fully vaccinated for COVID-19, with no significant difference in vaccination rates across regions".

AMA survey shows over 96% of doctors fully vaccinated against COVID-19

New data point toward high COVID-19 vaccine confidence among practicing physicians.

www.ama-assn.org

However Paradox you are welcome to provide your evidence that the majority of doctors feel as you do. LMAO.

Under threat of being fired.

Biden said first responders should be fired if they didn't obey him and the seals at the Anderson Cooper townhall clapped like happy seals.

 

[Pluto]

I

t wasn't my OP. There is no proof that those vaccinated died at any less rate than the unvaccinated people when you take out the elderly and people who already had health issues.

As far as people like me making it worse, I see that comment as typical of the very far-left radicals who believe and trust anyone with initials behind their names and government people. those are the people who want compliance and obedience and genuflecting to idiots like Fauci and Walenski, IOW, the snowflakes of the world.

It doesn't have to be your OP, as there's proof plenty you're at least partially to blame by continuing to insist without evidence > "There is no proof that those vaccinated died at any less rate than the vaccinated > even though the elderly and those who already had health issues were far more susceptible. Far more susceptible being the very reason you should have vaccinated to protect 'them', and not go on distributing BS as if you were being payed to deliver it. But hey, keep right on storytelling, as it shows just how baseless and senseless most of your posts really are.

 

[Paradoxical]

It doesn't have to be your OP, as there's proof plenty you're at least partially to blame by continuing to insist without evidence > "There is no proof that those vaccinated died at any less rate than the vaccinated > even though the elderly and those who already had health issues were far more susceptible. Far more susceptible being the very reason you should have vaccinated to protect 'them', and not go on distributing BS as if you were being payed to deliver it. But hey, keep right on storytelling, as it shows just how baseless and senseless most of your posts really are.

You must be busy. I excluded the elderly. Why?

Because Covid was primarily a disease affecting the elderly and fat slobs and sedentary people and people with health issues.

All others don't need the vaccine. People under about age 55 and in good health.

 

[Pluto]

You must be busy. I excluded the elderly. Why?

Because Covid was primarily a disease affecting the elderly and fat slobs and sedentary people and people with health issues.

All others don't need the vaccine. People under about age 55 and in good health.

Yet people have died from covid despite being well under the age of 55 and healthy. But you'll just wave that off as another consequence of being alive. Or blame the 'left' just like Donny did during covid19's initial outbreak. Busy? Currently no, as I spent most all-day volunteering accounting services, rather than be entertained by your BS here.

 

[Lursa]

Under threat of being fired.

Biden said first responders should be fired if they didn't obey him and the seals at the Anderson Cooper townhall clapped like happy seals.

The govt doesnt owe you a job, esp. one where you could endanger other people's lives.

 

[Paradoxical]

Yet people have died from covid despite being well under the age of 55 and healthy. But you'll just wave that off as another consequence of being alive. Or blame the 'left' just like Donny did during covid19's initial outbreak. Busy? Currently no, as I spent most all-day volunteering accounting services, rather than be entertained by your BS here.

About normal for what one would expect in the flu season for those under 55 in good health. Next question.

 

[Lursa]

You must be busy. I excluded the elderly. Why?

Because Covid was primarily a disease affecting the elderly and fat slobs and sedentary people and people with health issues.

All others don't need the vaccine. People under about age 55 and in good health.

Yes all those people with immune disorders, cancer, kids with leukemia and asthma, etc...it's their own damn fault! If their family members have to go food shopping and bring it home because some infected, unvaxxed asshat sneezed on them...it's all their damn fault.

 

[Lursa]

About normal for what one would expect in the flu season for those under 55 in good health. Next question.

Why are you discounting the elderly/immuno-compromised for covid but not making the same distinction for influenza? How many of the 80,000 flu deaths were the same demographic, elderly/immuno-compromised? Most?

So...with that demographic is removed from both flu and covid deaths...now redo the mortality numbers. We'll wait.

 

[Pluto]

About normal for what one would expect in the flu season for those under 55 in good health. Next question.

Actually no, as there's been far less incidences of cold and flu outbreaks thanks to some people wearing, or continuing to wear masks.

 

[Pluto]

How the unvaccinated got it right hasn't aged very well.

 

[Paradoxical]

Actually no, as there's been far less incidences of cold and flu outbreaks thanks to some people wearing, or continuing to wear masks.

I was referring to the deaths from Covid being what one would expect during the flu season. IOW, they were NOT dramatically higher, especially when you consider that they counted anyone that died, even from a gun shot or car accident, as dying from Covid, when it was WITH Covid.

 

[jaeger19]

Thanks for providing the proof that the vaccine wanes and people die. The initial claim was that it was 99.8 % effective and they kept moving and hiding the ball. It appears no more effective than doing nothing.

Actually that I did present evidence for which you can calculate effectiveness. since i didnt provide evidence of how many people who vaccinated and exposed and did not die vs those that did.

However..it is proof that the vaccine is way more effective than not being vaccinated.
So no not ...no more effective than doing nothing.

Yet again you are proven wrong.

But we get that no scientific evidence can shake your " faith" in the anti vaxxer religion.

 

[jaeger19]

I was referring to the deaths from Covid being what one would expect during the flu season. IOW, they were NOT dramatically higher, especially when you consider that they counted anyone that died, even from a gun shot or car accident, as dying from Covid, when it was WITH Covid.

Yeah no.
Cripes you are really going to claim covid " is like the flu"..
After having hospitals and counties have to rent refrigerated trucks to store the bodies from covid because the morgue were full. ?
The idea that people with gun shots were listed as dying from covid is a myth.. such bs demonstrates a person's complete lack of understanding on how death certificates are done and how deaths are reported.
The fact is that covid deaths are way undercounted.

 

[jaeger19]

Under threat of being fired.

Biden said first responders should be fired if they didn't obey him and the seals at the Anderson Cooper townhall clapped like happy seals.

First responders are not physicians.
And Biden has zero power over first responders anyway.
The only seal here is you trying to balance a ball on your nose for your right wing masters.
No matter how many times you get proven wrong.

You keep clinging to the anti vaxx religion.
.

 

[Paradoxical]

Yeah no.
Cripes you are really going to claim covid " is like the flu"..
After having hospitals and counties have to rent refrigerated trucks to store the bodies from covid because the morgue were full. ?
The idea that people with gun shots were listed as dying from covid is a myth.. such bs demonstrates a person's complete lack of understanding on how death certificates are done and how deaths are reported.
The fact is that covid deaths are way undercounted.

You know very well that I am referring to those under 55 and in good heslth.

But, good try at putting everyone in the same pot. It's like lumping in people in their 90s with people in the one 1-20 age group and then saying "Oh, look at how many died from Covid" and not sorting them out for AGES.

Why do you do this?

 

[Paradoxical]

First responders are not physicians.
And Biden has zero power over first responders anyway.
The only seal here is you trying to balance a ball on your nose for your right wing masters.
No matter how many times you get proven wrong.

You keep clinging to the anti vaxx religion.
.

The Happy seals, including doctors, take Fuhrer Biden's recommendations.