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How should we deal with Trump's statements?

How should we deal with Trump's statements?

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He's the leader of the free world. We should be able to take what what he says literally. Unfortunately Trump's proven that we cannot, which is a real problem should any real crisis develop where Trump has to be a real leader.
 
Risky Thicket said:
Trump has lost all of his credibility. Not that his credibility bucket was overflowing to begin with. More importantly it isn't what Trump says, it's what Bannon says to Trump. Unfortunately we aren't privy to those conversations.

Trump is an incompetent leader who follows the advice of a racist, anti-Semitic, xenophobe, anarchist. Yeah, it is that bad.
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Agree

What little credibility he had, he squandered on a lie, all due to his pathological hatred of his predecessor. Obama should demand a public apology, and not via Spicey.
 
What needs to happen is for Trump to be picked up firmly by the lapels, slammed hard against the nearest brick wall, and in best Marine drill sgt. mode scream at him "have you no shame you lying maggot"?

Of course, I speak only metaphorically - and would settle for somebody simply having the guts to ask the question if he at all feels bad about calling a President of the USA SICK and lying about him when he irresponsibly accused him of a felony.

But that is not going to happen either.

This president is defining down deviance faster than a score of gangbangers in the worst neighborhood in America. Heaven only knows the short term and long term damage he will do the other office, the nation and the American people with his mentally unbalanced narcissism which renders him incapable of telling reality from his own delusions of madness.
 
yankintx said:
I would like to know who then ten idiots are, they voted to take Trump literally.
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Are they like the 'idiots' that took Obama's people literally when they repeated the CIA's assessment that the terrorists that attacked our consulate did so because they were mad over a video?




The right spent 8 years throwing fits over every last thing Obama said, even if it didn't have the potential to cause any harm. Now all of a sudden they want us to pay no heed to what Trump says because, what, he cannot control which words come out of his mouth? That's supposed to function as an attack on the left and a defense of Trump?

Why do you think it's a good thing to have a President whom we cannot trust to say what he actually means? If we as voters decide we aren't going to take him literally, then we're giving him license to do whatever the **** he pleases without ever having to accept responsibility.

There's also the fact that other countries possibly cannot afford to ignore what he says. If he goes on TV and starts talking about nuking NK, there's a real chance they might take it literally and respond against SK, before Trump can clarify that when he said "nuke" he really meant "be tougher with". If he calls up Putin and tells him to get out of Crimea or we're moving troops in, that could have real world consequences. Words have meanings, and to most people, those meanings matter.



A Trump voter may be willing to excuse his scattershot bluster, but the rest of the world may not.
 
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nota bene said:
Really? Only op/ed folks on blogs reported that Trump had hung up on the Australian prime minister?
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I have no idea what you're talking about, but I put NO store on bloggers or their opinions on the MSM. Where I live no media has an active investment either way and I find it's about the most non-biased available. I do NOT CARE who reported that Trump hung up on the Australian PM or Trump's latest twitter or the rest of the soap opera being played out. and don't really care. Getting washed in the picayune details simply feeds the bias and you clearly are a Trump supporter.

What I do know is that Trump is the most dishonest president in history...anything after that is a joke



Blog on the other hand exists to tell you what you want to hear. To me their are less than comic books.
 
Mr Person said:
Are they like the 'idiots' that took Obama's people literally when they repeated the CIA's assessment that the terrorists that attacked our consulate did so because they were mad over a video?




The right spent 8 years throwing fits over every last thing Obama said, even if it didn't have the potential to cause any harm. Now all of a sudden they want us to pay no heed to what Trump says because, what, he cannot control which words come out of his mouth? That's supposed to function as an attack on the left and a defense of Trump?

Why do you think it's a good thing to have a President whom we cannot trust to say what he actually means?



If we as voters decide we aren't going to take him literally, then we're giving him license to do whatever the **** he pleases without ever having to accept responsibility.

There's also the fact that other countries possibly cannot afford to ignore what he says. If he goes on TV and starts talking about nuking NK, there's a real chance they might take it literally and respond against SK, before Trump can clarify that when he said "nuke" he really meant "be tougher with". If he calls up Putin and tells him to get out of Crimea or we're moving troops in, that could have real world consequences. Words have meanings, and to most people, those meanings matter.
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Our Allies must be shaking there head in disbelief, the man brings shame on his office.
 
Also, simply put, it's ****ing embarrassing.

The President should act presidential. The only way that happens is if enough people, especially those on "his" side, take his words literally. Then, just maybe then, he'll be forced to behave like a normally adjusted human being.




If we don't take his words literally, we're giving him a license, we're contributing to the danger that he will say something someone else will take seriously with bad results, and we're embarrassing ourselves as a nation.
 
Fearandloathing said:
has anyone in the so called "alt left" accused Barrack Obama of wiretapping them? No?

Has any of the hated MSM made bull**** claims?

Trying to shift focus on the old the traditional hatreds of the right is awfully lame.

You're 'greatest" has his tit in a wringer, so of course here we have to hear about the MSM. Frankly it's disgusting after eight years of reading you guys I find out it was all posturing; the current group of "ins" who piled so much scorn on Obama and his followers now adopt the same false posturing. You're all the same, only the right is far, far more hypocritical.

Now all those times you shut down congress look downright ugly; there was altruism there, it was simply an attention-getter for the Republican congress...
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No more than Trump has. And at least they didn't accuse a President of the United States of criminal activity. That was our wonderful President who did that.
 
Cardinal said:
The debate about the seriousness of Trump has moved to an entirely different angle. Before, if we didn't take Trump seriously that meant we didn't actually expect him to win the election (but then in all fairness neither did he). Today, if you hear that Trump should not be taken seriously, it means that he lies so often that his words can't be taken at face value. And yet he's President, so simply pretending his statements don't exist or have significance isn't a practical option either. That's what it's like to live with a parent who's insane, actually.
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What was the lie again?
 
Captain Adverse said:
The opposite of the Alt-Right.

More correctly; people with extreme progressive views who use all the tools of propaganda, threat, intimidation, etc. to push their agendas.
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I watched Hannity last night so I could see what our President was saying. From the first 15 seconds he was babbling about the "Alt-Left", so now I know where you got it from. It's always great to see posters get their talking points from partisans pundits who use all the tools of propaganda to push their agendas.
 
Captain Adverse said:
The opposite of the Alt-Right.

More correctly; people with extreme progressive views who use all the tools of propaganda, threat, intimidation, etc. to push their agendas.
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The very liberal Vanity Fair agrees.

Why the Alt-Left Is a Problem, Too | Vanity Fair

Further evidence can be seen by the reactive and laughable effort to deny it's existence, or make claim it is an invention of the right.
 
tres borrachos said:
I watched Hannity last night so I could see what our President was saying. From the first 15 seconds he was babbling about the "Alt-Left", so now I know where you got it from. It's always great to see posters get their talking points from partisans pundits who use all the tools of propaganda to push their agendas.
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Actually I did not get this term from anyone. I started using it on my own after seeing Alt-Right used over and over by the MSM, internet pundits, and Forum members.

I figured if they can label people with a new term, why can't I. I think my definition was spot on, and am not surprised others would think of using it too. :coffeepap:
 
The president must be taken literally. It is up to him to choose his words wisely in unambiguous terms. The American people deserve and depend on nothing less than that. Every word the man utters is under scrutiny. The president must retain credibility. I will assume he means what he says and that he says what he means as I have done for all presidents. If that's not so it's on him and any elected official for that matter.
 
Captain Adverse said:
Actually I did not get this term from anyone. I started using it on my own after seeing Alt-Right used over and over by the MSM, internet pundits, and Forum members.

I figured if they can label people with a new term, why can't I. I think my definition was spot on, and am not surprised others would think of using it too. :coffeepap:
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Ah. so Hannity is copying you.

I don't know any "Alt-Left", and I don't know what anyone on the left has to do with the poll question, which is about words coming directly from President Trump.
 
tres borrachos said:
Ah. so Hannity is copying you.

I don't know any "Alt-Left", and I don't know what anyone on the left has to do with the poll question, which is about words coming directly from President Trump.
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Ah, but;

There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
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- Hamlet (1.5.167-8), Hamlet to Horatio.

Just because YOU don't know (or choose not to recognize) anyone as being Alt-Left does not mean it does not exist, any more than someone on the Right claiming there is no such thing as the Alt-Right. :roll:

As for the rest of your comment? Where is your evidence Hannity is the originator of the term?

Why would you assume I watch his show? (Which I don't. I prefer Tucker Carlson.)

Why would you think no one could independently come up with a term as simple as Alt-Left after seeing the constant use of Alt-Right in this Forum?

Since when do you dictate what other members choose to raise in their responses? Did you get appointed the Forum P.C. speech editor? :confused:
 
Russell797 said:
I will assume he means what he says and that he says what he means as I have done for all presidents. .
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I can agree on that for the most part.
It's the media that filters incorrectly when they add their own partisan goggles.
 
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