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How Pentagon's Dark Eagle Hypersonic Missile Compares to Putin's Oreshnik

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The Russians and the Chinese have both publicly demonstrated working hypersonic missiles, the Russian version striking the Ukrainian city of Dnipro (Ukraine's 4th largest city) on 21 November 2024.

The US needs to match or surpass enemy capabilities. The US must also consider mating the Dark Eagle with nuclear warheads.

 
Because?
 
This book by Dr. Seuss ws published in 1984, "the more things change... ."
 
Hypersonic missiles are a brand new technology.

Do you folks ever read the topical MIC R&D literature?

Jesus lol.
 
Nothing like playing catchup
 
The Oreshnik is basically a ballistic missile.

Hypersonic missiles typically refer to non ballistic missiles that can change direction in flight.
 
Indeed. I can't fathom what his problem with hypersonic missiles could be.

I guess the psychology is that if Russia has hyper-sonic missiles and anti-missile missiles, then in a hypothetical nuclear war between the USA and Russia, Russian missiles could strike the USA with impunity whilst US missiles would be intercepted and destroyed.
 

The main advantage of hypersonic missiles is that they can defeat modern air-defense systems.

They travel at 3,800+mph and can be programmed to constantly and randomly change their trajectory on the way to their target.

The Russians are working on a nuclear powered version that could, in theory, remain in-flight indefinitely.
 
Hypersonic missiles are a brand new technology.

Do you folks ever read the topical MIC R&D literature?

Jesus lol.

Hypersonic missiles are not “brand new”. They are a buzz word. The V-2 was a “hypersonic missile”.
 
Hypersonic missiles are not “brand new”. They are a buzz word. The V-2 was a “hypersonic missile”.


Hypersonic missiles in today's common usage indicate a non ballistic missile that can maneuver during flight.

It is the maneuverability that makes them harder to intercept compared to ballistic missiles
 

The Russian version was also intercepted fairly reliably by old hat Patriot systems: https://defence-industry.eu/patriot-air-defence-system-intercepted-25-kinzhal-missiles-in-ukraine/
 
Hypersonic missiles in today's common usage indicate a non ballistic missile that can maneuver during flight.

It is the maneuverability that makes them harder to intercept compared to ballistic missiles

The “hypersonic missile” Russia deployed in Ukraine just last month was a ballistic missile.
 
Yes I know.

Russia hyped it up

Most “hypersonic weapons” are just hyped up ballistic missiles, often with just the barest amount of terminal maneuverability. The US Army’s LRHW is a IRBM with a glider warhead that can kind of maneuver during the terminal phase.
 
Most “hypersonic weapons” are just hyped up ballistic missiles, often with just the barest amount of terminal maneuverability. The US Army’s LRHW is a IRBM with a glider warhead that can kind of maneuver during the terminal phase.


And that is what most consider to be hypersonic weapons compared to ballistic missile
 
And that is what most consider to be hypersonic weapons compared to ballistic missile

They aren’t really that much of an improvement. The maneuverability of SAMs/ABMs is comparable and they actually have external guidance with a lot more capability than the fairly basic threat warnings for hypersonic missile warheads.
 

That's kind of what I said.